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Post# 1167515 , Reply# 1   12/25/2022 at 15:08 (480 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 1167521 , Reply# 2   12/25/2022 at 17:10 (480 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 1167523 , Reply# 3   12/25/2022 at 17:15 (480 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 1167524 , Reply# 4   12/25/2022 at 17:45 (480 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Post# 1167525 , Reply# 5   12/25/2022 at 17:55 (480 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I owned a ‘71 Ford Maverick that was a great little car. I bought it used in Nov’81 for $1295 and drove it for 5 years. The only problem I had with it was that the linkage to the clutch broke once when I was stopped at a red light.
But I drove it 15 miles home in rush hour traffic with no clutch. I just shifted it like I always would have by the sound of the engine and speed I was traveling at and didn’t grind the gears once. But it sure felt strange to be shifting it without using the clutch. The pedal was laying on the floor board. It was a very nimble little car and really easy to drive for a stick and I really only needed to shift between 2nd and 3rd once I was under way. Much easier to drive than a Volkswagon and better HP too. I got an average 25 mpg all the time. Eddie |
Post# 1167527 , Reply# 6   12/25/2022 at 18:58 (480 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)   |   | |
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Anything from England, France, and Italy was 100% shite and to avoid. German cars esp Mercedes diesels were tanks, Japanese cars were just coming into their own with decent styling and a reputation for reliability and quality but still considered tin cans, and anything was better than the smogged out trash Detroit was pushing.
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Post# 1167528 , Reply# 7   12/25/2022 at 20:46 (479 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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The 1970’s wasn’t the finest hour for American made vehicles but as robbinsandmyers mentioned, the majority of cars from Europe with the exception of a few were even worse around that time and the British car industry was no more by the time the 80’s came around.
This isn’t from the malaise era, but I’d gladly would take a ‘66 Ford LTD 4 door hardtop over anything made today. Sure, it doesn’t have airbags, ABS, traction control, but more than makes up for it in terms of outward visibility. It’s all relative to the era it was made in. Btw, I suggest you guys check out the channel on YouTube called Rare Classic Cars & Automotive History.
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Post# 1167530 , Reply# 8   12/25/2022 at 21:01 (479 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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My grandparents had a 1978 Ford Granada with a 302 V8, C6 trans, and limited slip 9" rear end through 1992 which was replaced with a Lincoln Towncar. It was pretty decent vehicle for being smack dab in the malaise era and was comfortable for what it was. I can still hear that loud buzzer 3 decades later, lol. Also, the killer door locks were interesting. Pull the door handle up and the door lock automatically disengaged and opened the door. Convenient for an adult but a late term external abortion option for children. |
Post# 1167533 , Reply# 10   12/25/2022 at 21:44 (479 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)   |   | |
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Neighbors across the street got a new Ford Granada around 1977. After having it a few days, they noticed the trim on the one side didn't match the other, and one front fender said Granada, and the other said Monarch. They took it back to the dealer, and they put the correct parts on. |
Post# 1167536 , Reply# 11   12/25/2022 at 22:32 (479 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Post# 1167537 , Reply# 12   12/25/2022 at 22:49 (479 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 1167539 , Reply# 13   12/26/2022 at 00:54 (479 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I still have my 1964 Plymouth Valiant with the legendary Slant Six motor, and the Torqueflite automatic transmission. I bought it from the original owner around 1976. Made a lot of trips in that Plymouth - down to LA, up to the ski country, even to Portland, Oregon and back. And of course to commute to work and back for about 20 years. I learned how to work on cars with that Valiant. |
Post# 1167540 , Reply# 14   12/26/2022 at 01:09 (479 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)   |   | |
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With all the talk about Granadas and Monarchs it reminded me of the robins egg blue 1976 Monarch an uncle bought new. He was a die hard Merc guy and still is. When the paint wasnt blowing off it in sheets it was popping in reverse from park, or it had some electrical issue. The 66 Ford reminds of the black 66 Custom 4dr a neighbor had in the earky 70's. My dad drove his 66 Caprice wagon he bought new until 1979 when he figured he dodged a bullet by then and bought a 79 Estate wagon.
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Post# 1167541 , Reply# 15   12/26/2022 at 01:09 (479 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1167544 , Reply# 16   12/26/2022 at 06:16 (479 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Daddy had a 1978 Ford Fairmont. He drove that car to death, then had the engine rebuilt and kept driving it. Eventually he sold it to buy a 1987 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Brougham with leather seats. He loved that Olds...it got much better gas mileage and would go in the snow without chains. He commuted 33 miles each way from TN to AL for work at Reynolds Aluminum.
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Post# 1167547 , Reply# 17   12/26/2022 at 09:21 (479 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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That's the type of cars that were everywhere when I started driving. I didn't know we were in the "malaise" era. I just thought of them as what cars are.
In my early days of driving, I was only interested in owning big cars. A Cadillac was always a dream, but I've never owned one to this day. I can remember lusting for a 1969 Chrysler Newport. Never owned one of those either, but I did briefly own a 1969 Dodge Monaco. That car seemed so cavernous inside. It felt like you needed an intercom to communicate with someone in the back seat. Today, I have the strongest desire to have a car from that era again. Except now, I want the ones that I missed out on when they were plentiful. I would love a Granada/Monarch. I would love a 1975-1979 Chevy Nova. I'm partial to the four-door, and to the '75 and '76, because of their dashboard design. My favorite uncle had a '75 that we went on so many fun family outings in. Unfortunately, now all of those cars are gone. At least, in this part of the country. New England winters are not kind to bodies and undercarriages. I remember an aunt having an early Dodge Aspen or Plymouth Volare. The tops of the front fenders started rotting away when the car was only a few years old or so. If I'm not mistaken, that was such an issue with those cars that Chrysler had to do a recall or something and replace the front fenders. Man. I could go on for hours on this topic. I won't, but I could! Barry |
Post# 1167550 , Reply# 18   12/26/2022 at 10:36 (479 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)   |   | |
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In 1977, my dad leased a 1977 Granada Ghia. Dark Jade Green Metallic with two-tone leather interior.
It had every option except moonroof, four wheel disc brakes and, oddly, remote trunk release. It had numerous assembly issues when delivered. Broken visor mount, side marker light bulb hanging by wires in the wheel well, and a few others. After the lease was up, dad bought the car and gave it to my mom to drive. It suffered from many issues over the years - transmission rebuild, leaking fuel lines, air conditioner compressor, and more. And it had low miles - not driven hard and well maintained. A great looking car but very trouble prone - at least in this case. It had the 302 V8 with the California only "variable venturi carburetor". Also a trouble area. It got a repaint after about 6 years due to the original paint not holding up well over the years (outside most of the time...) When mom got her new 1987 Mercury Topaz LS, my younger brother got the Granada. He didn't have it long before selling it off for something more reliable. |
Post# 1167551 , Reply# 19   12/26/2022 at 10:38 (479 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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My 1978 Ford LTD Landau Coupe, the last year for the big LTD, lasted 330,000 miles. With it's 351W 2-barrel it always got an honest 22 MPG highway. It was a wonderful highway car. |
Post# 1167557 , Reply# 21   12/26/2022 at 14:56 (479 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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Yup. Even with its problems, I'd take that Granada in a heartbeat! Although, I don't think I'd like the California carb. Ken, I had a 1977 LTD Landau four-door. I may have paid $350 for it. It was one of my favorite cars. Douglas, I had a slant six Duster too. I think it was a 1975. I loved the looks of them, and I always heard how bulletproof the engine was. Leave it to me, I must have gotten a Monday car or something. Isn't that what they used to call them? Mine never ran right. I eventually gave up on it and sold it to my brother. I don't know what he had done to it, but I believe he got it running better. My teenage dream car was the mid '70s Monte Carlo. Over the years, I was fortunate enough to own three different ones. First was a 1976. My second one was a 1975. And my third and final one was a 1977. The '76 was one-year-only color, that I want to say was lime green metallic with a white vinyl top and white vinyl interior. (Two-toned with sort of an avocado green.) The '75 was dark blue metallic with a white landau vinyl top, and white vinyl swivel bucket seats. The '77 was a sort of copper/orange metallic with a tan landau top, and tan cloth interior. I think that orange color was a one-year-only also. All of mine had the "Corvette style" rally rims. The first two had whitewalls. The '77, I bought a set of white lettered radials for it. I loved every one of them. The '76 was in the roughest condition. But, being my first Monte Carlo, I thought it was awesome. The '77 had the least power/torque, as it was the only one of mine that had a 305. The other two had the 350. I traded that one in, it must have been in 1987. I replaced it with a 1982 Buick Regal coupe that I bought to get the attention of a female co-worker. Her parents had a nearly identical car. Barry |
Post# 1167565 , Reply# 23   12/26/2022 at 15:48 (479 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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My dad bought a pre-owned 1969 Continental Mark III, literally in the dark. He went to see it at night and bought it on the spot. Don't ask me what he was thinking, but he clearly wanted a Mark III badly. It was the classic color combo from the the full width magazine ads: burgundy with a black vinyl top. When he got it home, I immediately noticed it had a Thunderbird emblem on the steering wheel. It also had eliminator pipes that did away with two of the four mufflers, and had wheel covers off of a '70 or '71 model, which were entirely different looking from the '69 covers. One day we were out in the car and spotted a Mark IV on a small used car lot nearby. It had '69 Mark III wheel covers, which looked hideous on it, so we stopped and proposed a trade. The dealer didn't hesitate to make the switch on the spot.
That Mark III drove beautifully and rode like a cloud, but it was otherwise sketchy. Once when it was parked on the driveway, which was fairly long, my dad started it and while it was sitting there running at a fast idle from the cold start, it popped out of Park and into reverse (automatically releasing the parking brake), backed down the driveway at a pretty good clip, started heading into an arc and barely missed the front of the house, proceeded across the front lawn and if not for a young Mulberry tree in the parking strip, which it hit with a loud cracking sound (the tree survived with a scar that remained for a several years), the car would have headed into the street to raise havoc and likely trigger some serious insurance claims by the neighbors.
There was no visible bumper damage. My dad was working out of town frequently at that time, and he instructed me to sell the car. Some guy came along and I got him to pay more than my dad did for the car. Apparently he wanted a Mark III really badly too. I wonder when, where and how that cycle finally ended. |
Post# 1167567 , Reply# 24   12/26/2022 at 16:13 (479 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)   |   | |
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Yes, Ralph - Ford had a BIG issue with the late 1960's and early 1970's automatic transmission selectors (on the column) "popping" out of PARK when running.
My mom had a 1968 Falcon Futura Sports Coupe (bought new) and after a year or two, she had to hold the gear selector "up" into PARK when starting it. If not, the car "thought" it was in gear and would not crank. Later, Ford issued labels to all known owners of the automatic column shifted cars of that era warning NOT to leave the car unattended when the engine was on. Many others experienced the episode your dad did - sometimes with deadly or injurious results. I'm sure many owners never bothered to stick that warning label on the dash. |
Post# 1167570 , Reply# 25   12/26/2022 at 17:10 (479 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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I’ve heard Fords from the 60’s and 70’s had a tendency to pop out of park as well. There’s a ‘66 Ford Galaxie 500 (similar to the LTD above but in the Galaxie 500 trim) that I want to try to get and if I do, I will for sure use the parking brake just to be safe. There’s even a neutral safety switch where it won’t start unless in neutral.
It’s interesting how Ford was the one to use Park Reverse Neutral Drive Low from the beginning with their automatics in the late 1940’s and very early 1950’s though it was only Park Reverse Neutral Drive, Low was added later on. GM in their infinite wisdom used all kinds of weird patterns for the gear shift in their cars in the 1950’s and early 1960’s before they went to the typical PRNDL, they probably got complaints from people who thought they were putting the car in reverse but ended up putting it in neutral or ended up putting into park while driving ruining the transmission. |
Post# 1167576 , Reply# 26   12/26/2022 at 17:59 (479 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Yeah Bill, I remember the news stories about Ford's rogue reversals, so when it did happen it was for sure alarming, but I chalked it up to another statistic that fortunately didn't require reporting.
The '60s Ford products with shifters on the column all had issues. My dad's '65 Continental required holding the shift lever up to the top of the Park position in order to start it. I followed instructions in the shop manual to adjust the switch at the bottom of the steering column, which was an exercise in contortion and was apparently written under the assumption that everybody had three hands to hold a contact post in place while sliding the entire switch assembly and tightening down two hard to reach screws. No matter how many times I adjusted the switch mechanism and tightened it down, the problem would recur after a while.
The '69 Mark's shifter was a lot easier to adjust. No screws involved. Just zip a plastic tab on the switch assembly with your finger and allow it to snap back. And the intervals between the adjustments were much longer. Your mom's Falcon probably employed that same system. |
Post# 1167579 , Reply# 27   12/26/2022 at 18:11 (479 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Most of GM's early automatic transmissions from 1939-1964 (Dual band Hydramatic, Dual coupling Hydramatic, Dynaflow, ect) had reverse at the bottom so one could easily shift from reverse to low gear in order to rock a vehicle out of the snow. They universally adopted the PRND21 with the TH400 in 1964 and soon after, the TH350 in 1969 although the Powerglide was using it way back in the early 50's. |
Post# 1167594 , Reply# 28   12/26/2022 at 19:18 (479 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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The crap we had back then.
No EFI. No air bags. AC was still an option. Catalytic converters didn't start until 1975. No real responsible child seats. No full head rest support. No compact fuel efficient cars. No rear brake lights and taillights in general were often dim or small. Ashtrays all over the inside. Poor fit and finish. Noise control was not a priority. The smugness of Detroit's auto industry was palpable. Thank-goodness for Ralph Nader. I didn't start taking an interest in vehicles until 1982. Things were better by then. One thing we did have though which is missing today was an effort to isolate the car chassis from the road. We had cars that rode like a dream. It was so nice and cushy.
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Post# 1167597 , Reply# 29   12/26/2022 at 19:40 (479 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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This may be where the Torqueflite transmission has the edge. The controls are located on the left side of the dashboard. There's a big lever that you bring down to put it into park, and it has a detente to keep it there. I've never heard of a Torqueflite transmission popping out of park/neutral into a moving gear. Sounds like Ford screwed up big time.
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Post# 1167608 , Reply# 31   12/26/2022 at 22:21 (478 days old) by Stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Mid 70s GM has been very good to me over the years..I’ve tried to be good to her too..even with the smog control. Very smooth ride
I haven’t driven a car with better power steering. (U turn with one finger) |
Post# 1167610 , Reply# 32   12/26/2022 at 22:38 (478 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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It’s all relative to the era. Cars back then didn’t have the safety features of today’s cars BUT had better outward visibility. I’ll take better outward visibility vs modern vehicles that have visibility that’s on par with late 1930’s and 1940’s cars. Having chunky a, b, and c pillars that conceal pedestrians and vehicles on the road at times is quite dangerous. That’s why I don’t feel comfortable driving modern vehicles, much rather have something like the ‘66 Ford LTD 4 door hardtop that has tons of visibility, even more so when all the windows are rolled down on a nice day.
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Post# 1167611 , Reply# 33   12/26/2022 at 23:25 (478 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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That is a ‘71 Dodge Demon, the sister ship of the ‘71 Plymouth Duster, you can tell by the tail lights. The Duster tail lights are 2 horizontal lenses on each side. I owned a ‘71 Demon with a 225 slant six and a torque flight 3 spd auto trans., which was an excellent auto trans. I bought it new in August ‘71. It was a good car, nothing fancy, but dependable, comfortable and well put together.
It got an average of 22 mpg and it had tail lights, directional signals, brake lights, just no center back light in the rear window, that didn’t become mandatory until ‘86. Up until just a few years ago around here I was still seeing Dusters and Demons of that vintage all the time. They were durable and affordable cars in their day. And I agree with Sean in reply #32, the older cars had MUCH better visibility than todays cars. We didn’t need a rear view camera to back up or park the car, you could always see all four corners. And they had REAL steel chrome bumpers that actually protected the car and the driver. Not these plastic, low slung POS bumpers of today that if you pull up too far over a parking berm, than back-out and the whole GD bumper pulls off the car. Useless junk that cost a kings ransom to repair/replace. Eddie This post was last edited 12/26/2022 at 23:49 |
Post# 1167642 , Reply# 35   12/27/2022 at 11:28 (478 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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In ‘72 I flew down to LA to visits some friends that lived in Eaglerock, off of the Pasadena Freeway. I arrived on Saturday night. My friends Jeff and Dennis had to work on Sunday.
They had a ‘71 Vega and loaned it to me to drive around and see the sights while they were at work. It was a 4 speed. I’d never driven in LA before, but I was an adventurous 21, so armed with a AAA map of LA I took off and had a ball. That little Vega was easy to maneuver around LA and even with the traffic the 4 spd wasn’t a problem at all. I went to Universal Studios, Hollywood Blvd. and all over downtown LA. I never got lost once, I have a good sense of direction. That Vega was a fun little car to drive. Eddie |
Post# 1167644 , Reply# 36   12/27/2022 at 12:20 (478 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 1167652 , Reply# 37   12/27/2022 at 13:23 (478 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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was very simple:iron head/aluminum block OHC 4 painted orange,big black plastic fan at front and an aluminum air filter that I think was sealed and you threw out and replaced the whole assembly when it got dirty :) |
Post# 1167660 , Reply# 38   12/27/2022 at 15:08 (478 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Pacer
Caught the imagination for a few minutes but... It was terribly heavy which made it NOT a fuel efficient small car. The engine wasn't reliable. It was an after thought, like most small U.S. made cars in the 70s. Something thrown out there after the fuel embargos and rising gas prices, to appease to buying public. It was like they were designing vehicles for the oil industry and wanted the vehicles to use as much gas as possible.
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Post# 1167661 , Reply# 39   12/27/2022 at 15:15 (478 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Of course the quality cars came from Japan, same as now.
Childhood friends parents had a first gen CVCC about 1975 in kermit the frog green
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Post# 1167663 , Reply# 40   12/27/2022 at 15:30 (478 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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When I was in Santa Barbara in ‘77 I saw Burl Ives driving a silver AMC Pacer in Montecito. I was kind of surprised that a movie actor would be driving such a plebeian automobile. The Pacer was ugly as homemade sin.
BTW, Fred MacMurray lived in Forestville on the Russian River and he drove a beat up, dusty, Tan Volkswagon Squareback. I saw him driving it a few times. He also didn’t have on his toupee either. He looked like any other old man. Eddie |
Post# 1167691 , Reply# 42   12/27/2022 at 18:40 (478 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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AMC cars were mechanically sound. And Nash and Rambler, the predecessors of AMC were very innovative automobile companies in their day. The main problem with AMC was that their body styling was sorely lacking in modern appeal. Had they been able to move with the times in styling they may have had a chance at survival.
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Post# 1167695 , Reply# 43   12/27/2022 at 19:02 (478 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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found a slant back 4 door Cutlass at the junkyard in 1995:it had a chevy 305 under the hood.I liked the look of the car and it was in pretty decent condition,but I did not like the 2 extra doors...Now I would love to have that car.:) |
Post# 1167700 , Reply# 44   12/27/2022 at 20:32 (477 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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The "Thing"
When I was forced to take organ/music lessons in the 70s, someone who lived or worked in the area always had a white one with the convertible top down parked on the street. and I've seen this vehicle used in at least 2 movies. Why? I think Steve Martin was in one...I don't WANT to remember... Doug D. insults the talents of children.
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Post# 1167703 , Reply# 45   12/27/2022 at 20:44 (477 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Our neighbor had something similar. I believe it was a maroon color and always well cared for and garage kept. In fact their house, in our 1960 built tract home subdivision with only 3 different models, had to be one of the shining jewels.
Perfect lawn, perfectly trimmed bushes and shrubs. They spent the $$ to rip out the contractor grade sidewalks and gravel drive and put in new curved edged sidewalks in different places from where they old ones were. They were the only ones with air conditioning (sleeve AC), had all the latest 60s/70s furnishings, and he was knowledgeable. They even had a harvest gold Fridgidaire I-18 set in their carpeted kitchen that matched their other harvest gold appliances. I would not doubt if he did all the maintenance. Their son Mark had a transAm and worked at Kent. Fried Chicken. This was 74-76ish. |
Post# 1167725 , Reply# 49   12/28/2022 at 05:35 (477 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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If you think the 1959 Rambler wagon was ugly, perhaps you've never seen a 1959 Ford, Chevy, or Plymouth wagon.
I had a 1964 Rambler American. I got 235,000 miles out of it. |
Post# 1167745 , Reply# 51   12/28/2022 at 17:01 (477 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 1167753 , Reply# 52   12/28/2022 at 18:26 (477 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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...looking into these,discovered a 2 door version was also avalible :) The 4dr one I had looked at had ralley wheels similar to Pontiac ralley wheels.The 2 door 1978 cutlass my aunt had had a 260 Oldsmobile v8 instead of the chevy 305 in the slantback |
Post# 1167759 , Reply# 54   12/28/2022 at 19:30 (477 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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My first job out of university was in a hospital research lab. One of the other lab workers purchased a new Pacer (around 1976) and she was very excited about it. I was not so impressed but didn't say anything negative to her about it. I think after I left that lab, I heard that she had sold it a few years later. Don't remember why, but it sounds like it was a motor issue. |
Post# 1167764 , Reply# 55   12/28/2022 at 20:10 (476 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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I bought my 1977 Pacer in September 1977 afteer I began working and was able to get a driver's licence. It was the vehicle the dealer used to drive around as a Program Car??
My 1977 AMC Pacer's bieggest problem was the "black box" (electronic module). It failed on me three on the highway. Once was 3 hours away from home on my way home. Had to be towed back to Houston. The wife of friends of my parents had bought one a year before mine. She had the same issue. She dumped it a year before I dumped mine. I traded mine in for a new Chevy Citation. (I didn't find out until years later that two of the Edsel model names were Pacer & Citation). I sold the Citation to the BIL of a coworker---he was a great shade tree mechanic that could deal with the transmission problems developing. |
Post# 1168060 , Reply# 56   1/1/2023 at 14:31 (473 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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were universally acclaimed at the time, and to this day, by the car magazines and by truly knowledgeable car buffs as probably overall the best all-around full-sized US cars ever built, malaise era or not. As much room inside and the previous whales, but still with a great ride plus far better handling and fuel and space efficiency. See knowledgeable opinions on: www.curbsideclassic.com....
We owned a '77 Olds 88, '77 Buick LeSabre, and '78 Buick Electra, each with 350 V8s. We put over 400,000 miles on those cars, and each was a superb family vehicle. After 1980 though, all bets are off, GM went to hell fast in that decade. Wish I could buy another '78 Electra!
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Post# 1168814 , Reply# 59   1/9/2023 at 00:54 (465 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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Our families cars from 70 to 80. We started out as a single car suburban family with a
196x purple pontiac, no idea what it was we got a baby blue 197x Buick Skylark. Then a 1974(?) 2 door mid blue with white vinyl roof LeSabre I think it was, which was a terrible car. My mother was literally crying at the dealership service center because of the issues. That was the last GM they ever bought.
Then became a two vehicle household with the purchase of a red with white side paneled Ford F-100 or F-150 Lariat with a truck cap in fibre glas. God I hated this thing. But with the Buick it was all set for the bi-cential: red, white, and blue (and white). Then the buick was ditched and a 1977 mid green Thunderbird. Everything on this was green. Didn't care for it either because we were a family of 4+ yet it only had 2 doors and with no operable windows in back and their smoking. UGGGH. It had velour, AC, but I don't think it had electric windows. Then in 80 the car was traded for a brown Ford E-100 cargo van when they started their business. It was bol with no AC , 5 speed man. and nothing in the back. This was terrible because wtf? Where are passengers supposed to sit? Literally we had to put lawn chairs in the back and that was a disaster as soon as they went around a corner. God, i remember riding to her mothers who was in the hospital and dying from cancer and they were crying and trying to convince me to come inside because it was probably going to be the last time I'd see her (which it would have been). When we got home I told them I was never riding in that thing again. It was obviously too dangerous. They just did not think.
Then, one summer night, somebody (I know who they were...down the block) vandalised both vehicles by pulling the sleeping bags partially out of the back of the truck and lighting them on fire. They also stuffed grass in the gas tank of the van. The stupid cap was ruined (really thank goodness) so it came off and all four of us, plus the dog had to squeeze into the front of the truck to go anywhere. Horrible. The van wasn't drivable. Had to be flatbedded to the dealership so they could do whatever. The truck just went in to have the tailgate stripped and repainted.
Thank goodness for insurance.
It was the suburban 70s. lol. Could have been worse I guess.
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Post# 1168815 , Reply# 60   1/9/2023 at 01:14 (465 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Post# 1168824 , Reply# 61   1/9/2023 at 06:09 (465 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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Interestingly enough, the 1977-1979 Thunderbird was the best selling Thunderbird of all time. |
Post# 1168825 , Reply# 62   1/9/2023 at 06:21 (465 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 1168911 , Reply# 63   1/9/2023 at 14:26 (465 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)   |   | |
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Maybe in your area but when I was growing up as a kid in the mid 70's the newest cars on my two block long street were a used Ford Maverick and a used 70 Pontiac Catalina. Everyone else drove old cars because thats all they could afford. Examples I saw were 59 Thunderbird, 62 Old Cutlass, 65 Tempest, 66 Belair, 63 Impala, 66 Olds Ninety Eight, 62 Galaxy, 66 Coronet, 66 VW squareback, 60 Dodge, 66 Mustang, 69 Marquis, plus my parents 66 Caprice wagon and 65 Chevy II sedan. And this was just an average working class area not poverty row. My dad drove his 53 Buick Roadmaster he bought new until 66 when he bought the Caprice wagon, and drove that until 79 when he bought a new Buick wagon, then drove that until 1990 with another Buick wagon until 2000 when he bought a 1990 Volvo 240 wagon.
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Post# 1168952 , Reply# 64   1/9/2023 at 20:23 (464 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Had a nightmare of being in a non-air conditioned two-door car's back seat, on a scorching hot day, only to realize despite the opera windows this car had, at least the front windows that open, at least some air does come back there, but better be driving at a mid-to-highway speed...
'70's and early '80's suburbs saw a lot of car thefts or break ins, my mother went up to two guys trying to open a car's vent windows possibly attempting to steal the car, one had a flashlight over the other one, so it's a good thing that my mother randomly spotted them and made them get away, in another car they apparently drove up to it in... Naturally after they left, my mother went up to the neighbors telling them what had just had happened while they were in the house unaware of the attempted break-in/possible theft of their 1970 Chrysler Newport 4-door hardtop, and promptly called the police, and filing a report when the cops minutes later came... -- Dave This post was last edited 01/09/2023 at 22:36 |
Post# 1182596 , Reply# 65   6/14/2023 at 16:38 (309 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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One family I knew could never live without a full sized van, before moving they had a number of van conversions, all Fords, starting off with a window van that had no seats in the rear, just a carpeted wooden bench along the drivers side that I don’t think even had seat belts across from the sliding side door…
I don’t know how the kids sat still that way either, and one would have needed to have been placed in a child seat, at that age… That family made many trips to and from Florida that way… When they just moved to our neighborhood they had a window van that I’m certain had normal seats in the rear or at least one front facing bench… — Dave |
Post# 1182600 , Reply# 66   6/14/2023 at 17:26 (309 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 1182760 , Reply# 67   6/16/2023 at 11:09 (307 days old) by Polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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My dad bought his aunt's 1978 Granada Ghia from her in 1989. It had 10,002 original miles on it. I had aftermarket cruise control installed in it and the rear leaf springs replaced. It also had the base 250 straight 6 cylinder engine. Once it got up to highway speed she was a great cruiser that was fairly easy on gas. It was a sharp looking ride. I sure wish I still had it.
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