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Maytag A212S Sud Saver Help
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Post# 1168785   1/8/2023 at 20:30 (465 days old) by ianbobian (Cambridge Ontario Canada)        

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Alright, I finally have the 212S hooked up how I want it — but I’m still having the issue with the Sud Saver. It “BANGS” but it won’t gain any suction (apparently). I have only tried it once, at the appliance store where it came from, where they were trying to figure it out. I have to hook the pipe back up but otherwise it’s ready to try again. Does anybody have any ideas what this could possibly be? And any idea as to a fix? I want to actually use the feature!

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Post# 1169933 , Reply# 1   1/19/2023 at 23:57 (454 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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I'll give a try

does the washer discharge thru the right hose at the right time

My 806s and my 308s malfunctioned and discharged thru both hoses at wash and rinse drain

The shaft that holds the hockey puck seal in the valve had broken

I took out the valve and took it to the appliance shop where I got the washers

I was able to take a nut-driver and removed the valve cover where the seal is

I replaced the shaft assembly and installed it again and it worked

if this is not it it may be vacuum and or suction leak

check the hose clamps and any joints in the suds hose if they leak it will not draw the water back

I have also found I cannot drain water from one washer and return water to the other as the prime is not established in the other washer

I have to prime the other washer by shooting water into the suds hose when i feel the washer pulling the water in i stop the water

In looking thru my pics my Maytag TT a50 did the same thing

Lets us know what happens and others can chime in too



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Post# 1170169 , Reply# 2   1/23/2023 at 17:02 (450 days old) by ianbobian (Cambridge Ontario Canada)        

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Yes, the washer drains from the correct hose. When the suds return hose is hooked up, the washer will agitate, BANG is heard, it just does not gain suction whatsoever for some reason.

Post# 1170248 , Reply# 3   1/24/2023 at 18:39 (449 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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hoping others will chime in

sounds like an air leak

I had that in one of my suds hoses


Post# 1170250 , Reply# 4   1/24/2023 at 18:52 (449 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
try this

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you say you've only tried once and still have to hook up some pipe, and you said "When the suds return hose is hooked up"? Losing the suction/vacuum can be easy and then you can't suck back the suds, so fix that pipe and return hose or whatever so the machine and hoses and pipes are stable, not being moved around/rerouted/undone. Put a stopper in the suds tub and be sure the final drain hose goes to a real drain/pipe/tub. Run a load of clothes and then see if it works as planned, and watch while it's draining the suds so you know right on the dial where it's headed to the suds tub. If it won't suck the suds when you set the dial at SUDS RETURN, DON'T touch any hose at all. Turn the dial to normal filling and let fresh water in for maybe 20 seconds. Stop and turn the dial to that spot where it drains suds into the suds tub, turn it on about 20 seconds and it'll send that small amount of fresh water into the suds. Stop, you've now kinda primed the pump and filled the hose. Now turn to SUDS RETURN and hopefully it'll suck suds because you're not playing with hoses, pipe,s etc. I always have a bit of trouble until all my hoses are routed correctly and left alone entirely instead of moving them around and breaking the suction/vacuum/letting air in. Report back to us, suds return machines are fun and efficient!

I have 4 suds models, so when a machine gives me suds in the tub and I try sucking into a different machine, I almost always have to do that "20 seconds fill, 20 seconds drain into the tub", before I can get someone else's suds into a dry other machine.

Confusing? Just get it all set in place for a load or two and see what the results are then. Report back, these machines are fun fun


Post# 1170256 , Reply# 5   1/24/2023 at 19:52 (449 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Try this

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Excellent advice Mark

You have more patience than I do and you explained it well.

John


Post# 1170726 , Reply# 6   1/30/2023 at 13:53 (443 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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Ive done this as well


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