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Thread Number: 92799
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How to prepare dishes for the dishwasher.. |
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Post# 1173668 3/4/2023 at 09:26 (411 days old) by chachp  (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Last night I was cooking some frozen taquitos in the air fryer. I use these precut parchment paper sheets I got on Amazon in the air fryer because they make clean up easier and I don’t have stuff sticking to the basket. I hate when you rip a chicken wing because half of it is stuck to the basket.
Anyway, I got off topic which I tend to do. After we ate, I was trying to pick off the pieces of chicken and cheese which were rock hard at this point. In the picture it looks like you could just fling them off, but I couldn’t. I was trying to push them off from behind with a fork and I was having a really hard time and was afraid I was going to bend the basket. I decided to stick it in the dishwasher the way it was to see how much would come off. At the very least I hoped they would soften up and I could more easily get them off.
I was shocked. It’s all gone. All of it. There wasn’t a piece left not even in the bottom of the dishwasher. Sorry the pics are out of sequence. Pic #5 is obviously how it was before it went in. I guess this is a real tribute to not having to rinse or otherwise clean our dishes before we put them in. A quick scrape is all I do most of the time. | ||
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Post# 1173671 , Reply# 1 3/4/2023 at 09:33 (411 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis) |
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I usually do a light rinse before putting dishes in the dishwasher but this is because I only run it every three days or so. We have a small dishwasher that came with the apartment and it doesn't fit large pans and such very easily, so I only use it for plates, bowls, glasses, cutlery, maybe a baking dish or two that can fit along the sides. It takes a few days to accumulate that when there are only two of us. Don't really want completely food-encrusted dishes sitting in there for a number of days which is why I lightly pre-rinse.
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Post# 1173678 , Reply# 2 3/4/2023 at 10:07 (411 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1173688 , Reply# 3 3/4/2023 at 13:40 (411 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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| Post# 1173718 , Reply# 4 3/4/2023 at 17:16 (411 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
If that happens I use a knife to get them off I don’t prefer my dishwasher eating large hard chunks of anything. I don’t rinse unless there’s a lot of solid bigger chunks of debris, so everything gets scraped and loaded. I seriously don’t get why there’s people in this world who think washing the dishes first before loading them into the dishwasher makes any sense? That’s no different than taking a clean car and putting it thru the car wash, or a clean load of laundry and running them thru the washer dryer again. It’s the same principle. Dishwashers pre rinse for us on most cycles, you just don’t want big hunks of crap getting into them as that’s what causes clogs or reduced wash performance.
As an FYI recently Cascade launched a brand new scent called the Mountain scent only available in the Platinum Plus variety, it’s such a heavenly earthy mountain scent but the scent is not left behind like the lemon cascade pacs. They are perfect for extreme hard water conditions because they are at least twice as concentrated VS original platinum pacs. Figured I’d mention it since a lot of us use Cascade it’s a wonderful new product for those who are having residue issues even with rinse aid, I used to have residue and spotting from even original cascade all the way thru to the platinum variety and this stuff will not leave a single spec behind it’s impeccable. | ||
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Post# 1173719 , Reply# 5 3/4/2023 at 17:22 (411 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Yes, dishwashers do a lot better than most people think
Post number four, I have never in my 50 years of working on dishwasher seen a dishwasher clogged with any type of food soil.
You don’t have to worry about chunks of food clogging a dishwasher, you may find chunks laying in the bottom if you get too carried away, but if you can get into the system, it will be gone dishwashers vary so it helps to know your machine. John | ||
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Post# 1173741 , Reply# 6 3/4/2023 at 20:23 (411 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis) |
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Do you guys run your dishwashers every day? If not, how do you deal with not pre-rinsing and leaving the dishes in there for several days? I'd be interested, actually, to know that I don't have anything to worry about and that pre-rinsing is still unnecessary, but I always thought it made a difference how frequently you run the machine.
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Post# 1173742 , Reply# 7 3/4/2023 at 20:29 (411 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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A full load accumulation typically takes 2 to 4 days unless I'm cooking or baking a lot. I scrape the chunks, no tap-rinsing, no Rinse/Hold cycle. There is no odor and everything comes clean, including breakfast oatmeal bowls waiting for the duration. I found years ago with the mid-1970s KitchenAid that running Rinse/Hold causes odors instead of reducing them, due to the residual dirty water left in the machine's sump. | ||
| Post# 1173745 , Reply# 8 3/4/2023 at 20:43 (411 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
Rinse/Hold causes odors instead of reducing them | ||
| Post# 1173760 , Reply# 9 3/4/2023 at 22:30 (411 days old) by Awooff (Peoria, Illinois) | ||
Rinse n hold/grease
#3 also having grease issues and just kind of been ignoring it. -The top most part of plates is where im feeling a bit of greasiness. Had been chaulking it up to maybe the old powerclean needing a new fill valve as have been down that road before...
#5 the report of no food clogs seen in 50 years is one of the best statements read on dw usage! ha. #6 other then avocado and cooked on egg - every other soil imaginable including burned and baked on, could be left dried on for weeks and i dont think any of my dishwashers would have an issue. (But id favor using a powerclean p n p cycle). Rinse n hold is useful for half filled loads of HEAVY soil but i tend to load tetris style. | ||
| Post# 1173768 , Reply# 11 3/4/2023 at 23:31 (411 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1173769 , Reply# 12 3/5/2023 at 03:52 (411 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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I tried Rinse & Hold once and never again after that. I much prefer a few dry dirty items in the dishwasher over everything being wet and dirty for days.
My 18" Siemens holds large items just fine and you can of course put smaller stuff like plates and glasses underneath pots and pans.
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Post# 1173774 , Reply# 13 3/5/2023 at 06:28 (410 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Great for scraping are silicone spatulas like these from Ikea.
I leave the door ajar until I do a full load. It takes about three days before my dishwasher is full. I never have a problem with humidity or mould issues. It's odd that we adjust the amount of detergent in a washer but never in a dishwasher. When a load is really dirty, I add a bit of powder to the tablet I'm using. Everything comes out spotless all the time. And now I learned from someone here to shake the racks after a load is done, I have no drying issues anymore either. Clean and dry dishes, what more do you want?
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Post# 1173782 , Reply# 14 3/5/2023 at 10:32 (410 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian) |
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Clean and dry dishes, what more do you want? I would not be unhappy if the dishwasher unloaded itself... | ||
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Post# 1173785 , Reply# 15 3/5/2023 at 10:56 (410 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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Unloading dishwasher
Fell out of fashion, I fear.
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Post# 1173791 , Reply# 16 3/5/2023 at 11:54 (410 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 1173814 , Reply# 17 3/5/2023 at 14:48 (410 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Preparing dish’s for automatic dishwashing
Hi Ryne have you tried putting really dirty dishes in and then running the machine I don’t think you’ll see any difference you should be able to easily leave dishes a week or more in a dishwasher and have them get justice clean. Food soil is that dry on or not hard to remove generally.
Reply number 10, hi Greg that’s a problem with the smaller dishwashers the 18 inch dishwashers only hold half as many dishes as a full-size machine so often the detergent pod is too much for them. Definitely skip using rinse agent in the dispenser if you’re using pods in the compact dishwashers. And probably all dishwashers, unless you have really hard water. John. | ||
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Post# 1173837 , Reply# 18 3/5/2023 at 16:37 (410 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC) |
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Not wanting to hijack this thread, but two posters have suggested that I change from detergent pods to liquid or powder to use in my Frigidaire 18 incher! Any suggestions? Looking at Cascade liquid with Oxi. Thanks! Greg | ||
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Post# 1173846 , Reply# 19 3/5/2023 at 18:18 (410 days old) by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis) |
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Reply #17
John, yes I've put really dirty dishes in there and they have come out perfectly clean. I wasn't worried about how they'd come out, I was just a bit nervous about the machine developing an odor or getting gross in some other way if I routinely left really dirty dishes in there for days. But, glad to know my fears are largely unfounded -- the more time I spend on this site, the more I learn, and it's nice to know some habits I was just brought up with are largely unneded.
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| Post# 1173847 , Reply# 20 3/5/2023 at 18:53 (410 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River) | ||
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Post# 1173856 , Reply# 21 3/5/2023 at 21:10 (410 days old) by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas) |
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I started using Joy, Dollar General. It cleans pretty good, was surprised.
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Post# 1173859 , Reply# 22 3/5/2023 at 21:41 (410 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1173865 , Reply# 23 3/5/2023 at 22:26 (410 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
It's amazing what dishwashers can do that we can't... In the past I've put things in dishwashers and I had zero expectation of it coming clean and it did.. Like some sort of witchcraft magic happened in there or something. Then other times, there will be peanut butter remnants left on a random spoon..
My thing is this: I think there's a difference in pre-rinsing for some and pre-rinsing for others. I think some people rinse until they can't see anything on the plate, glass or bowl...I pre-rinse EGG residue, milk residue...or raw meat juices just very quickly...you know, just to kinda get some of that nasty liquid off...but everything else just gets scraped and water doesn't touch it and it can sit in the dishwasher for days before being washed. | ||
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Post# 1173872 , Reply# 25 3/5/2023 at 23:18 (410 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 1173873 , Reply# 26 3/5/2023 at 23:22 (410 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1173880 , Reply# 27 3/6/2023 at 01:42 (410 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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Post# 1173900 , Reply# 28 3/6/2023 at 09:02 (409 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC) |
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#27! But that's what the dog is for! | ||
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Post# 1173919 , Reply# 29 3/6/2023 at 12:25 (409 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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haha we have a pre rinsing dog too  | ||
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Post# 1173961 , Reply# 30 3/6/2023 at 19:06 (409 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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cascade platinum+ I just picked up some cascade platinum+ in the mountain scent and I love it. I wish they came in the citrus breeze scent as well as it is my favorite. | ||
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Post# 1174089 , Reply# 31 3/8/2023 at 09:48 (407 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN) |
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I prepare my dishes for the dishwasher by using them and getting them dirty...
They go into the machine with no rinsing. Being single I typically run my DW only once a week. I rarely ever see anything not come completely clean even after sitting like that. I want to see my 20+ year old machine continue to haul the mail for many years to come, so I make sure to load it with lots of food soil and grease so the detergents don't destroy it. | ||
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Post# 1174147 , Reply# 32 3/8/2023 at 22:07 (407 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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prerinsing I'm not prerinsing my dishes. I want them to go in dirty and crusty to give the cascade platinum+ a workout. | ||
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Post# 1174152 , Reply# 33 3/8/2023 at 22:35 (407 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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| Post# 1174255 , Reply# 35 3/10/2023 at 07:48 (405 days old) by Awooff (Peoria, Illinois) | ||
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Prerinsing
#33. A residental dishwasher and a commercial dishwasher cycle are two different beasts all together. A 2 minute commercial dishwasher cycle and a 2 hour cycle on a residential dishwasher are 2 different balls of wax.
One thing we can all agree on is a dishwasher is best at rinsing above all else - if you can rinse it off, the dishwasher will have no trouble. | ||
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Post# 1174681 , Reply# 37 3/14/2023 at 04:55 (402 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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DH tends to rinse more than I'd like. I usually just throw them in the DW and let it do its job. I know which things it needs help with....dishes i've used to cook rice, potatoes, grits, or some beans need a scrub with the brush before they go in because that glue won't come out. I always rinse egg off because it stinks. I have used the rinse hold feature, which is the same as a pre rinse.
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