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Thread Number: 93107
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Suggestions on buying a new front load washer and dryer |
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| Post# 1177427 4/7/2023 at 13:13 (378 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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| Post# 1177428 , Reply# 1 4/7/2023 at 13:27 (378 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
Hello,
I’m new to the group here and would love to have a few vintage machines in my garage but not to sure how happy my husband would be with that. I don’t know what it is but i love vintage appliances they just excite me ha ha, Maybe it’s the craftsmanship and beauty I feel they used to have but I’m hooked. So I’ve been searching for a new washer and dryer or used as our newish ones are horrible and hardly wash at all (Maytag Bravos MCT top loader). I wish I would have kept my washer and dryer from the first home I bought it was avocado green a top loader and worked amazing thing must have been over 20 years old ugh I miss it! My husband doesn’t share in my vintage washing machine love as enthusiastically as me so he wants a newer front loader. Any suggestions? I’ve been scouring the internet and researching and so far I’m thinking a Speed Queen is my best bet… I just want one that washes really well! Thank you in advance, Angela | ||
| Post# 1177430 , Reply# 2 4/7/2023 at 13:36 (378 days old) by thatwasherguy (Kentucky) | ||
First off, Welcome to the forum!!
Second, you are correct, Speed Queen has some of if not the best washers today. If you are okay with the high price tag and lack of an internal water heater, then go for it. I fully understand your frustration with the Maytag Bravos, as I had one a few years ago. That said, I now own a top load Speed Queen, and it has been the best appliance we have ever bought new. From what I have seen so far, LG front loaders seem OK for the price, but don’t wash nearly as well or last as long as Speed Queens do. A family friend also spoke extremely positively their new Electrolux front load set’s performance, but they have only had them for a few months, so I can’t speak about their reliability just yet. Good luck on your quest!
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| Post# 1177431 , Reply# 3 4/7/2023 at 13:54 (377 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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Thank you
Well thank you for the warm welcome!
I was leaning towards an older top load Speed Queen TC model or older, but my husband seems bent towards the front loader he swears they wash better, but after my talking his ear off about them all he said get whatever I want ha ha. So what is it that you love about the Top load Speed Queen in comparison to the front load one. I do love option to have a high water load and to be able to just toss another item in after it already started. I am still looking into these ones as well so they aren’t off the table by any means. | ||
Post# 1177439 , Reply# 4 4/7/2023 at 14:54 (377 days old) by GELaundry4ever  (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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lg I'd go for lg matching pairs. Please be sure they have turbowash in them. Thank you. | ||
| Post# 1177440 , Reply# 5 4/7/2023 at 15:21 (377 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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| Post# 1177442 , Reply# 6 4/7/2023 at 15:22 (377 days old) by Thatwasherguy (Kentucky) | ||
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I would say…
That the best thing about the top load Speed Queen is it’s performance. It operates like a 1970’s top loader, and produces similar results as such. I should warn you, however, that it doesn’t operate this way on the Normal/Eco cycle. This cycle reduces the water temperature in the washer, along with the water levels. It also eliminates the deep rinse, utilizing a spray rinse instead. I have never liked the results that this produces, so I use the heavy duty cycle for everything. With this cycle, you will get straight hot water when you call for it, along with a full tub rinse and wash when the large load size (or “deep fill” on the TC5) is selected. It has also had good reliability. I’ve had mine since 2017, and have only had to replace a water inlet valve. As far as the front loader goes, I have only used a large commercial Huebsch (Speed Queen rebranded) front loader, and it did a fine job with cleaning as well. That said, it is really down to user preference as to which is better.
Hope this helps, Thatwasherguy. | ||
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Post# 1177444 , Reply# 7 4/7/2023 at 15:27 (377 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1177449 , Reply# 8 4/7/2023 at 16:14 (377 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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| Post# 1177471 , Reply# 9 4/7/2023 at 18:20 (377 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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Thank you
@thatwasherguy that is good info to think about. @dadoes the dryer is working fine but we would like a matching pair if possible. @qsd-dan my husband is a blue collared worker, but wears work overalls over his Dickey pants. I am a white collared worker with dirty hobbies lol hiking and gardening and we have about 40 chickens so I clean the coop a lot too. So I want something that can handle some dirt every now and then.plus we have three active kids and two dogs thrown into the mix. So maybe a top load… I do love a good top load washer! | ||
| Post# 1177472 , Reply# 10 4/7/2023 at 18:52 (377 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Yeah, I'd be leaning towards a top loading washer under those circumstances.
If you want new, the Speed Queen TC5 is your only choice. Their newer TR series washers do not clean very well for dirty jobs, stay away from those. The only problem with the TC series is that it's very inflexible with cycle times (pre set) and water level adjustments. They claimed was necessary for them to skirt around EPA regulations.
I'd personally be looking for a high end pre 2018 Speed Queen washer which allows more control and flexibility.
You can go vintage with something reliable like a Maytag but you'll need to go through it or have someone knowledgeable enough that's very familiar with them. | ||
| Post# 1177476 , Reply# 11 4/7/2023 at 19:09 (377 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
I had a Speed Queen washer that is still going strong at a friends house. If your water bills are relatively cheap or you have well water then go for a top load washer. The SQ washer I had loves to eat belts. It is now on its 5th change of belt. Yes it does clean well but your clothes pay the price and if you look at Consumer Reports every SQ product performance wise is lacking.
I had an Electrolux set when we lived in Mass and I loved them. We left them when we sold the house since the dryer was natural gas fired and we don’t have access to gas lines where I live here in FL. The Electrolux washer cleaned superbly and the dryer performance was spot on and had a huge drum at 8 cuft. When we moved here we bought a Whirlpool set the 4516 washer I grew to hate with a passion and the dryer had issues where the sensor would take its time telling the control to move when the load was already dry. That set was bounced out once the supply chain issues got worked out. In 2021 I bought an LG 4000 set and I absolutely love them. The washer cleans well, it’s quiet , holds a good amount of laundry and has a water heater. Plus this washer is not shy about using water plus you can add up to 3 extra rinses if you need to. LG is always at the top of the heap for reliability as well. The dryer is quiet, quick and performs superbly. These machines also use AI …Artificial Intelligence…and it works quite well adjusting the cycles that use where it senses what you are washing and drying. Personally I would think twice before I would spend $1500 a piece for an SQ set and a front load SQ washer and dryer can be a hefty $2k a piece. They are not worth it no matter how much people think. The dryer will drive you nuts with subpar performance….just my opinion and experience…your mileage may vary… | ||
| Post# 1177480 , Reply# 12 4/7/2023 at 19:38 (377 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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@qsd-dan I don’t need to have a new washer by any means, used but new to me is perfect, I’d prefer a used one if it had great washing capabilities as that is my main need.
@nmassman44 our water rates aren’t great I live in the Bay Area so no well water either. I have read good things about the LG’s but I really want something that will last for years to come… if I can find a good used washer like a Speed Queen then I will buy it for sure. I have been looking everyday for a used speed Queen but nothing has come up yet… finger crossed. | ||
| Post# 1177490 , Reply# 13 4/7/2023 at 22:03 (377 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
I have nothing but good things to say about our LG washer and dryer. We bought them because when our Maytags were having problems, our service technician recommended to us an LG because it is the brand that they repaired the least. I can't say that on behalf of the other areas but it sounded like the technician repaired more Speed Queen washers than LG in my area. Ours have been going on for 4 years now without any problems and I expect them to last for quite a while. If we had to get our washer and dryer replaced today, I'd get the same ones that we have. But if it had to be something else, I'd get a Speed Queen. I'm a type of person that loves both a top loader and a front loader, in fact we've had a top loader and a front loader up at our cabin that we used to have. So if I was a consumer and if I had to choose between a top loader and a front loader, I'd think about which one would have more advantages over the other. Front loaders are generally more energy efficient, they use less water, they're more delicate on laundry, I find they rinse better, and than clean clean more thoroughly than a top loader. I know this because I've used a Whirlpool Duet front loader right next to a couple of Speed Queen classic top loaders when I was living up in the pacific northwest and the Whirlpool did a better job than both of the Speed Queens. Anyways, I'd invite you to look at these two review videos from another member here who's had more experiences with both LG and SQ front loaders to determine which one you'd feel is better for your home.
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Post# 1177496 , Reply# 14 4/7/2023 at 23:11 (377 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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I'd opt for the LG too. I've tossed many dirty jeans from yard work in my Duets and they all come out fine. If I was in the market, new or used, I'd go for an LG with turbo wash. | ||
| Post# 1177497 , Reply# 15 4/7/2023 at 23:34 (377 days old) by mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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@panasonicvac Thank you for the videos, those were both really good.
I've actually watched a ton of his videos on youtube. Bur since I am new here I didn't even realize he was a member as well, thats pretty cool!vI feel like he gives a really good commentary and does some great test runs on the machines. I wish I could have a top loader and a front loader ha ha. | ||
| Post# 1177503 , Reply# 16 4/8/2023 at 00:20 (377 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Post# 1177512 , Reply# 17 4/8/2023 at 01:39 (377 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Angela, I've had my LG WM4200 since October/November 2021. Turbowash is the feature whih recirculates/sprays on the load while during the wash cycle. during spins, turbo wash ramps up to 600 rpms and begins spraying the spining load for about 10 seconds. then the load costs down to stop and the machine pumps out that water. During each rinse, the turbo sprays continuously on the load. Drains, ramps up spinning and sprays the load again at 600 rpms. Spin sprays don't happen on bulky/bedding and towels cycles. I thinnk the turbo sprays during the wash and rinse perioids quickly saturates the load and is like always immersing fabrics under water like a top loader.
How far away is the water heater from your washer. Do you use warm or hot water for husbands really dirty garments as well as gardening and mucking out chicken coop? As Eugene mentioned above, LG water temp for warm is 90F and hot is 112F for Perm Press, Towels, Whitest Whites, and bedding. The heateer comes on to make sure thosse temps are reached and then it turns off. On normal, respective temps are 86 and 95. heater doesn't not come on after wash fill and is siilar for Heavy Duty. Normal & Heavy Dty has Extra Hot as an option and allows the heater to heat wash waster up to 150F depending upon soil level. On Sanitize, water can be heated up to 158F, depending upon soil level. I typically use prewash option for very heavily soild or lots of food stains to expose cold water detergen solution before warm or hot for washing. And yes, I am not shy about using 1-3 of extra rinses as needed--front loader rinses aren't anywhere near as water consuming as top loader. For comparable loads between my 2011 Whirlpool Duet and the LG, the LG is faster and balances into spin much quicker too. | ||
| Post# 1177527 , Reply# 19 4/8/2023 at 07:51 (377 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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Good morning from California.
I am just now reading more responses. So LG sounds like it can be a good contender now. And I didn’t even have the Electrolux on my radar but I’m going to research a bit about those too now. My main want is a machine that has great cleaning capabilities plus will last maybe I’m asking for too much but dang I just want clean clothes. Are there any vintage machines that you all felt were great at cleaning and reliable… maybe I can have two washers lol that would be awesome. I remember having the same washer and dryer my entire childhood life and my parents only got a new one when they moved away from our childhood home… Awe the good ol days! Right now my washing routine is that I have a empty laundry container and fill it to the top with water then empty it onto my load to trick the water sensor and it does trick it ha ha, then once everything starts washing I stop the load and use my manual stick washer thingy and plung the heck out of the clothes about a million times and even with all that they don’t come out very good at all. Socks look dirty still and my poor white towels are an ugly shade of dingy yellow gray now. I’m just so feed up with it that washer stinks. Although I did see one of the Lorain furniture and appliances guy Eugene’s video on the newer Maytag commercial top load being really good, has anyone had experience with that one? I put a picture of it below. I am kinda hesitant as I have a Maytag now but hey maybe they redeemed themselves with the new washer idk…
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| Post# 1177544 , Reply# 20 4/8/2023 at 10:22 (377 days old) by thatwasherguy (Kentucky) | ||
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Great vintage washers...
There were a lot that fit the bill of cleaning well and being reliable. Although, some of them are getting harder to find parts for, so that may be a factor to consider as well. The two main platforms that still have decent parts availability are the Whirlpool direct drive, and the Maytag helical drive. The Whirlpool was produced from 1982 to 2017 in some form or another, and is the most mass produced washer of all time, with over 100 million machines produced. This is arguably the best washer for the average user, as it is easy to service, has good parts availability, and has good overall performance. If you want something more unique, the helical drive Maytag (also known as a “Newton Maytag” or a “two-belt Maytag”) is also a great choice. It was produced from 1956 to 2006, and many critical parts from the 2006 models are interchangeable with models as far back as the original 1956 machines. That said, certain parts available today will only work with machines newer than the early 60’s. I personally have a set of Maytags from 1978 that I absolutely adore. I should warn you, however, that while both platforms still have parts available currently, this will not stay forever. That said, if you wish to use a vintage machine as a daily driver, refurbishment is almost a requirement for it to be guaranteed to be reliable, unless you find one with extremely low miles, but this is very rare. That’s not to discourage you from getting a vintage machine. If it’s not your only washer, you can get away without rebuilding it, and they are a lot of fun. Also, you can generally get a mechanically controlled washer from the 90’s or newer and get good service out of it as a daily driver with some simple preventative maintenance. Keep us posted on what you get! I’m excited to see what you end up with, vintage or modern!
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Post# 1177545 , Reply# 21 4/8/2023 at 10:36 (377 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Very best new front load washer overall
While nothing is perfect the Speed Queen front loaders are by far the most rugged, reliable easy to repair choice available only downside is they’re a little bit expensive.
MostWhile nothing is perfect the Speed Queen front loaders are by far the most rugged, reliable easy to repair choice available only downside is there a little bit expensive. Most people that buy them could leave them in there will as they can last nearly 50 years with some maintenance. The only two washing machines I ever bought new in my life were Speed Queen front loaders I bought 118 years ago, which is never missed a beat and three years ago. I bought the new stainless s50 years with some maintenance. The only two washing machines I ever bought new in my life were Speed Queen front loaders I bought 118 years ago which is never missed a beat and three years ago. I bought the new stainless steel model which is not disappointed me in any respect. The new Speed Queen is fast has lots of programming, Options, rinses and cleans beautifully. If you want to match pair, the dryer is also a workhorse that’s easy to repair and can easily last as long as the washer. John | ||
| Post# 1177547 , Reply# 22 4/8/2023 at 11:10 (377 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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@thatwasherguy I did recently see a post on here from a user named Mark who’s whirlpool just had its 18th birthday! Pretty impressive and he seems to love the machine. So I will have to check those out too now, I look into the Maytag sounds pretty interesting.
Gosh there are so many options I feel overwhelmed a bit lol today I am going to go to some used appliance stores to see what they have and I want to have a list with names and model numbers to check out. Does anyone know the model no. of any Maytag’s whirlpools and older SPeed queens I do have a few speed queen no.’s but that’s it? @John Do you have the model no. of your fav Speed Queen? Thanks guys I’m enjoy reading about all of these it’s so much fun! Wouldn’t it be cool if there was a museum for old washers and dryers and vacuums and such that let you try them out…I would have a field day! | ||
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Post# 1177549 , Reply# 23 4/8/2023 at 11:39 (377 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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dishwashers I can say the same for dishwashers. | ||
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Post# 1177550 , Reply# 24 4/8/2023 at 12:11 (377 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 1177575 , Reply# 26 4/8/2023 at 16:04 (376 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Post# 1177600 , Reply# 28 4/8/2023 at 17:55 (376 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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GE What about GE? How often do they rinse and/or do they incorporate intermediate spins on the normal cycle? | ||
| Post# 1177612 , Reply# 29 4/8/2023 at 21:12 (376 days old) by Thatwasherguy (Kentucky) | ||
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Model numbers…
There are many different model numbers for the Whirlpool direct drive. They were sold under many brands other than whirlpool, including (among others) Estate, Kenmore, Inglis, Roper, Maytag, and KitchenAid. Some models I can think of off the top of my head are the Whirlpool LSR7233EQ1, the Kenmore 110.92281100, and the Estate TAWS700RQ1 and TAWS700RQ3. These are by no means all of the model numbers of direct drive washers, but they are some of the ones I have seen. The easiest way to tell you are looking at a direct drive washer is to tip it over, and see if the transmission and pump are directly “plugged in” to the drive motor. I’ve included a link to a video that explains some more of the signs of a direct drive washer. For the Maytag, it’s a similar story. Tip the machine over, and look for two belts underneath. I’ve included a picture of what this looks like. Like the Whirlpool, it came in a bunch of different models. Normally, they start with the letter A for 1980’s and older models, or some other letter and then A if they are a color other than white. In the 90’s, they started having the first three letters as LAT. All of that said, there really is no pattern to the model number to tell what washer is of these designs. The best way to tell is to either tip it over and look, or type the model into a website like appliancepartspros.com and look at the diagrams.
Hope this helps, Thatwasherguy. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Thatwasherguy's LINK
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| Post# 1177614 , Reply# 30 4/8/2023 at 21:17 (376 days old) by Thatwasherguy (Kentucky) | ||
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Post# 1177666 , Reply# 33 4/9/2023 at 07:00 (376 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Best new front load washer for home use in the US
Hi Angela, Speed Queen only has three models available. Currently one is a stack design. The others are identical, except one has a right hand hinge door and one has a left-hand hinge door.
Speed Queen automatically gives you two rinses but you can add up to three more rinses I pretty much have always added one rinse seems more than sufficient on both my Speed Queen frontload machines. John | ||
| Post# 1177672 , Reply# 34 4/9/2023 at 08:56 (376 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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It is overwhelming! One thing you could do is watch youtube vides of different models to see the wash/rinse action for different cycles...
Seeing a lot of the modern front load washers (if my duet died today) I'm pretty sure I would not get another Whirlpool (not that they're bad).. I just personally think my current favorite front load would be an LG with turbo wash (it MUST have turbo wash)... I like the looks of the Maytag FL's better than the current Whirlpool Duets.. | ||
| Post# 1177687 , Reply# 35 4/9/2023 at 12:57 (376 days old) by mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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You are all so awesome, I look forward to reading all these suggestions each day!
@pansonicvac That "Museum of Clean" is AWESOME!That will be on my bucket list for sure and I'm going to look up to see if there are any near me now too! @Logixx Thank you for the video,gosh I wish the machines would just let you choose how many rises you wanted that would be pretty great. @combo52 Well a five rinse option is pretty good! @markwpduet Yeah I am hearing a good amount of responses in favor to the LG Turbo! That is a contender. Funny thing is that I really was thinking that I would love to have both a top loader and a front loader so if I had extra dirty things I could just use the top loader, well I just remembered that in my garage when we first moved in here the washer and dryer were out there sooo we have two washer dryer hookups one in the garage and one in the laundry room I think my dream of owning a top loader and a front loader is going to transpire LOL YAY! This post was last edited 04/09/2023 at 13:51 | ||
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Post# 1177689 , Reply# 36 4/9/2023 at 15:33 (375 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 1177692 , Reply# 37 4/9/2023 at 16:20 (375 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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| Post# 1177713 , Reply# 38 4/9/2023 at 20:00 (375 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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I like that you took my idea;) I too would love to have both a top and a front loader in my next house. Plus both you and your spouse would have a happy ending where he can use a front loader and you can use a top loader. Especially when you have lots of laundry but don't want to spend the entire day doing, having two washers and dryers can really cut the time in half! But if you have a hard time deciding which to get between a LG or a SQ, why not get both? A SQ classic top loader and a LG turbo wash front loader:) Or you can get a SQ front loader and get a used Whirlpool direct drive washer which can definitely out clean a SQ classic top loader. I'd avoid a LG top loader.
Regarding other museums around. For vacuums, I know there's not only the one that I went to in Pocatello Idaho but there's also one in Portland Oregon and one in Rolla Missouri. I think you'd like the one out in MO the best, not only the collection is the coolest ever but also the owner is awesome as well. He's on the sister website called vacuumland.org if you're ever interested in joining with us there:) And the only other washer museum I'm aware of is out in Eaton Colorado. www.vacuumland.org/... | ||
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Post# 1177764 , Reply# 39 4/10/2023 at 10:47 (375 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis) |
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Other suggestions are spot on, especially if you indeed do have two hookups available. Seems like your quandry is solved. I'd go LG with turbo wash for your front loader (it's what I would likely get if I were to go new as I can't afford Speed Queen very easily), and try to find a clean, good-condition used Whirlpool-built direct drive for your top loader. As mentioned above, parts for the direct drive machines are still pretty easy to find and a lot of people who don't normally even work on washers find they can handle the repairs themselves. A direct drive Whirlpool is what I have, bought it used last summer. It was in rough-ish shape -- so a few internal components didn't work quite right which would have presented some issues down the road. I ran it as it was for a few months as it still cleaned well, and got the offending components replaced when I had the money to get it done. Runs like new now.
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| Post# 1177778 , Reply# 40 4/10/2023 at 14:08 (374 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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Yes I am overjoyed that I remembered this small fact of two hookups lol. I will be searching for a new/used set daily!
Funny thing happened over Easter while chatting with my Mother in Law she brought up that her washer wasn’t working very well, I had plenty to add in as I was having the same problem with mine, she laughed and said I wonder if we have the same washer and I thought to myself no way could we have the same washer so we took a walk out to the garage and GASP we have the exact same washer and model Ugh Go Figure!!! She said she is just going to wait till hers dies before getting a new one. So speed forward to Easter dinner at my parents house and I told my Mom the funny story of our duplicate washers and my mom then showed me her Washer I kid you not she has the same washer as my Mother in Law and I all Except hers has the agitator and our wet the wash plate so my Mom absolutely loves hers and says it washing amazingly well agh! I had wanted the agitator one when I bought mine but someone in my family lol said to get the wash plate instead… welp worse decision ever. This post was last edited 04/10/2023 at 14:57 | ||
| Post# 1177847 , Reply# 42 4/11/2023 at 10:16 (374 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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I am definitely looking at the front load LG with turbo for our laundry room washer and for our garage washer I am looking for one with a direct drive so far I found a vintage Kenmore 70 series in great condition (picture attached).
Anyone know anything about these… are they any good, I watched a few videos on YouTube and they said they are work horses, I was going to go look at it tonight after work. | ||
| Post# 1177854 , Reply# 43 4/11/2023 at 11:43 (374 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1177856 , Reply# 44 4/11/2023 at 12:23 (374 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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Awesome I will keep this one in mind then. I am also keeping a eye out for a whirlpool direct drive as well, there seems to be a good amount of them on the used market are they all direct drives or just certain models, if it is just certain models I will be sure to ask the seller so I can check out the info online and see if in fact it is a direct drive motor. I have been reading about the direct drive motors and they seem like a great bet as they are real work horses.
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Post# 1177857 , Reply# 45 4/11/2023 at 12:31 (374 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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| Post# 1177859 , Reply# 46 4/11/2023 at 12:49 (374 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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| Post# 1177863 , Reply# 47 4/11/2023 at 14:30 (373 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 1177865 , Reply# 48 4/11/2023 at 14:46 (373 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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Post# 1177867 , Reply# 49 4/11/2023 at 15:39 (373 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Direct-drives were produced from late 1981 through approx 2010 at introduction of the VMW design (the DD platform continued a couple years longer for unitary/stacked models and some coin-op/commercial). Direct-drive was first offered as a few introductory Kenmore models. The first Whirlpool-branded was 1982 model-year. DD was initially 24" width until the 27" redesign in 1985-ish. They were produced under numerous brand labels -- Kenmore, Whirlpool, KitchenAid, Roper, Estate, Inglis, Maytag, Admiral, Amana, Crosley. KitchenAid mid/upper models with 3-speed motors and a larger agitator are desirable. Some Whirlpool and Kenmore models have 3-speed motors but the larger agitator was exclusive to KitchenAid. | ||
| Post# 1177875 , Reply# 50 4/11/2023 at 16:39 (373 days old) by Thatwasherguy (Kentucky) | ||
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That’s a cool looking Kenmore!
My great aunt has a Kenmore washer from 1993 almost exactly like the one you pictured. It has been used regularly it’s entire life, and it still going strong 30 years later with no major repairs. The dryer is wonderful as well. Those whirlpool built dryers with the lint trap in the top are some of the best dryers ever. They are fast, VERY easy to service, and are generally very reliable. They are also extremely easy to get parts for. If the price is right, and you like them, I’d go for them.
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| Post# 1177901 , Reply# 51 4/11/2023 at 22:32 (373 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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@Dadoes thank you for giving me some date ranges and the brand names as well!
@thatwasherguy yeah it is a really cool set and they are selling the set for only 150 and said it is still working excellent ugh!!! But the dryer is gas and we don’t have a hookup outside for that so I’m out of luck on that one… oh well the search continues! | ||
| Post# 1178276 , Reply# 52 4/16/2023 at 11:22 (369 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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Well I found a free Kenmore 70 series and just installed it into the garage yesterday I am a bunch of loads in and love this little washer wow it cleans so well! It is much smaller than I am used to but it washes pretty quickly so I just end up doing multiple loads. I’m okay with that! I have ordered some sodium tripolyphosphate and it should arrive today so I am excited to see if it can help revive my whites.I will post a video of my new to me washer soon. Still on the hunt for my front loader though that’s okay I will use my top loader happily anyways.
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| Post# 1178279 , Reply# 53 4/16/2023 at 11:50 (369 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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| Post# 1178280 , Reply# 54 4/16/2023 at 11:54 (369 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1178285 , Reply# 55 4/16/2023 at 12:45 (369 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1178299 , Reply# 56 4/16/2023 at 14:50 (368 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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Post# 1178319 , Reply# 57 4/16/2023 at 19:56 (368 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1178321 , Reply# 58 4/16/2023 at 20:28 (368 days old) by Thatwasherguy (Kentucky) | ||
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YAY!!!!
So happy to hear that you got your vintage washer! That era of Kenmore used my favorite console that any of the direct drives sported. I just love that wood grain top and black on black color scheme. Given the build quality of these machines, that set should last you a very long time. Let us know what year they are! I’m thinking the dryer is a bit older than the washer, given it’s center dial console. I *think* 1986 was the last year of those before they switched to the dial being offset like it is on the washer. Let us know what front loader set you decide to get! I’m excited to hear what it is!
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| Post# 1178333 , Reply# 59 4/17/2023 at 00:39 (368 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1178337 , Reply# 60 4/17/2023 at 01:59 (368 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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So will you get a front loader too? | ||
| Post# 1178340 , Reply# 61 4/17/2023 at 02:31 (368 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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I have the LG and it has been reliable but the odor issue is there
Do you run enough hot washes using chlorine/oxygen bleach and leave the door ajar between uses? Clean the trap filter often? Don't overuse fabric softener?
A top load Speed Queen may emit less odor but a front load one will most likely provide the same results if not worse due to the lack of a heater. | ||
| Post# 1178349 , Reply# 62 4/17/2023 at 09:06 (368 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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@qsd-dan Oh that is good to know about the timer I will make sure to search for one on eBay today so I have a back up or two if I can find them!
@neptunebob Yeah I am still on the search for a front loader for my j door laundry room as well. I am looking at the lgs and speed queens but ugh those are so expensive… so unless I find a great deal on a used one it will most likely be some other type of front loader. | ||
| Post# 1178350 , Reply# 63 4/17/2023 at 09:10 (368 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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@thatwasherguy Thanks I am really happy with it I just stood there watching it wash lol ahhh I missed that amazing agitator action! My husband walked in and said are you just standing there watching it wash lol I said ummm no I’m just waiting to add the softener to the last rinse ha ha Needless to say I’m very pleased!
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Post# 1178374 , Reply# 64 4/17/2023 at 11:19 (368 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis) |
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Dan is right, definitely get a timer if you plan to make this a long-term daily driver. I have a backup timer for mine on hand ready to go in whenever my current timer starts to give me a lot of problems.
He is also right in that most of the major parts for these direct drive Whirlpool-built machines are still available. Common wear points for these washers are the rubber drive coupler, neutral drain components inside the transmission, and the spin clutch. All of those show as in stock on many online parts dealers. Congratulations on your machine, it should serve you well. | ||
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Post# 1178375 , Reply# 65 4/17/2023 at 11:35 (368 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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has been reliable but the odor issue is there.
I've had my LG since October/November 2021. It has no odor. Always leave the door slightly ajar taking advantage of their design that keeps the door just slightly open and I also pull out the dispenser drawer and let it breathe. And as far as hot washes, the default of maximum of 112F for hot is a joke. And warm a tepid 90F. I use Sanitry (adjust soil level to reduce water heating washes phase time); also Normal with Extra Hot and adjust soil level). That results in temps of 130-150F temps. Warm is limited to 90F. Hot on Normal results in 95-100F max. I refuse to bow down to mandated dumbed down temps. I'm thankful the LG allows me to obtain higher temps with button pushing. I only use top notch powdered detergent (Tide).
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| Post# 1178527 , Reply# 66 4/19/2023 at 16:55 (365 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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I looked online to decide the year of my washer and it said possible 2016-2017 that doesn’t seem right?
Here is the serial no for the washer C 71408335. Any idea on the age? | ||
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Post# 1178533 , Reply# 67 4/19/2023 at 17:49 (365 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Dryer F907 = Whirlpool's Findlay OH factory, 7th week of 1979 (or 1969 or 1989 or 2019 which are no per the aesthetics). Washer C714 = Whirlpool's Clyde OH factory, 14th week of 1987 (or 1977 which can't be for a direct-drive, or 2017 which also is a no). 110. leading digits on the model numbers also indicate sourced from Whirlpool. | ||
| Post# 1178539 , Reply# 68 4/19/2023 at 19:52 (365 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 1178549 , Reply# 69 4/19/2023 at 20:47 (365 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1178558 , Reply# 70 4/19/2023 at 23:07 (365 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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@dadoes thank you for finding that info for me it’s cool to know when and where they were made.
@markwpduet yeah I’m a huge fan of vintage things so rightfully so I wanted a vintage washer and dryer. I’m really happy with them and wow it does a great job at washing I’ve missed having a old machine and so happy I found these guys. And so happy I found this group too you all are amazing, it’s cool talking with people who have the same interest in appliances vintage or new. @ repairguy yeah I want to keep these around as long as I can so I am going to try to look for spare parts on eBay now and online as well just in case something goes awry and needs replacing. Photo- I may have put a little too much detergent in this time but she is happily washing away.
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| Post# 1178600 , Reply# 71 4/20/2023 at 13:39 (365 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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@mark_wpduet What do you love about your WP duet, I am looking for a front loader too and so far have heard good things about the LG with turbo wash but would like to hear about the WP duet too…
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Post# 1178649 , Reply# 72 4/20/2023 at 19:03 (364 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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my first exposure to front load washers My first exposure to front load laundry was at the laundromat my family and I would go to when we were in a duplex. They really got the clothes clean and dry. | ||
| Post# 1178674 , Reply# 73 4/20/2023 at 22:50 (364 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Honestly, in 2005 when I first got it... I hated it...I was expecting laundromat FL wash action with water half way up the door...I kept thinking, "why am I not seeing water?" I was really bummed out at first.... But I just stuck with it and trusted it knew what it was doing and it does...It slowly grew on me until I actually love it. One of the first things I remember noticing was less lint on the lint screen of the dryer. I really have no clue about the current duet FL washers...after all these years so much has changed...so I can't really recommend or NOT recommend them.. I just don't know. But based on videos I've watched, LG with turbo wash seems to have the best wash action and they have a spray rinse too and they are easy for techs to repair if something goes wrong.
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Post# 1178679 , Reply# 74 4/21/2023 at 00:42 (364 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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If i may interject my two cents worth...i grew up with Maytag and GE top loaders. But when I got my own place I bought a front loader due to seeing them operate at work...in a healthcare facility. Now I can't fit any of the behemoths out there now in my laundry so i have to use European front loaders like Asko and Miele. I love them both and have never had cleaner clothes. They both have heaters and multiple rinses. You mentioned dingy whites...i had that problem too. I tried everything and was using good quality LIQUID detergent. So .. i switched to using ONLY Tide or Cheer powder in my white loads and now I don't have gray whites anymore. I use Tide pods in colors just for convenience and to keep hubby from overdosing the washer (which is easy to do with a water softener). I've never had the moldy smell problem either since I always leave my door open. Asko tells me to in the owners manual. I do wish I had space to also own a Maytag orbital top load like my mother's too just for certain items. But i will never go back to a tooloader for full time use.
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| Post# 1178680 , Reply# 75 4/21/2023 at 00:50 (364 days old) by Mrsproper1 (Benicia, California) | ||
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@mark_wpduet okay well thank you for your honesty, maybe the LG turbo is the way to go for now…
@askolover hmm I hadn’t even put Asko washers on my radar.. and thank you for the detergent tip, I did recently buy some tide after watching one of the fellow members YouTube videos where he recommends Tide! We will see if it can revive my poor dingy whites! | ||
| Post# 1178725 , Reply# 76 4/21/2023 at 18:14 (363 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
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Post# 1178729 , Reply# 77 4/21/2023 at 18:41 (363 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Re:#76 If you’ll look at both the OP and reply #1 you’ll see that they were both posted by the same new member. Apparently the member was unfamiliar with the site and for some reason deleted the OP and then reposted the same text 14 mins later.
The OP has been engaged with this thread all along and has politely thanked all the members who have offered their suggestions and advice. So, yes we are still on this topic and it appears that the new member, Mrsproper1 is most appreciative of all the input.
So what’s the problem?
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