Thread Number: 93190
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
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Post# 1178306   4/16/2023 at 16:28 (369 days old) by Queeny77 (BERWYN, ILLINOIS)   |   | |
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Saw this washer in my friends garage and asked if I could have it. His wife bought a new one while he was in Poland. I thought I would just be able to fix a simple thing on it but no I was wrong the trans leaked grease on the actuator, belt and gears. It’s going to the dump
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Post# 1178311 , Reply# 1   4/16/2023 at 16:59 (369 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1178620 , Reply# 2   4/20/2023 at 16:57 (365 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 1178645 , Reply# 3   4/20/2023 at 18:51 (365 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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What is so commercial about this washer? Who are they fooling? What are you doing Maytag? |
Post# 1178705 , Reply# 4   4/21/2023 at 12:54 (364 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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What is so commercial about this washer?
Nothing, it's part of the embellishing/false advertainment game that virtually all corporations play.
Who are they fooling?
Most of the lazy public that don't do their own research. There's no excuse for this.
What are you doing Maytag?
It's actually Whirlpool, and they're building cheap junk to maximize profits AND YOU WILL LIKE IT! |
Post# 1178707 , Reply# 5   4/21/2023 at 13:24 (364 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)   |   | |
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Let's hope this is ENOUGH for Jerome!!! |
Post# 1178737 , Reply# 7   4/21/2023 at 22:27 (364 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 1178743 , Reply# 8   4/22/2023 at 06:18 (364 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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And thats literally what Whirlpool was after when they bought Maytag. They had to know years in advance most if not everything Maytag wouldn't be kept in production with people solely buying appliances based on fond memories. Then again Whirlpool did spare people from buying Performas, Nortags, and MayQueens so there is some good to doing this. |
Post# 1178759 , Reply# 9   4/22/2023 at 10:54 (363 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I expect plenty of water, aggressive wash action, and clean rinsing. |
Post# 1178764 , Reply# 10   4/22/2023 at 12:21 (363 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Well, whether it's Whirlpool or Maytag, they're now one and the same. They're not fooling anybody on here. We know they're playing games. |
Post# 1178883 , Reply# 11   4/23/2023 at 18:42 (362 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)   |   | |
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Jerome! You've FINALLY caught on!! |
Post# 1178975 , Reply# 12   4/24/2023 at 15:05 (361 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Yes, I did. I am suspicious of "Maytag". They're just another whirlpool with the maytag label stuck on it. |
Post# 1178990 , Reply# 13   4/24/2023 at 16:38 (361 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1179165 , Reply# 14   4/26/2023 at 21:15 (359 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Well, these were the good direct drives until 2010 when they got replaced by the direct drive. The commercial ones had lowered water levels, which I dislike. |
Post# 1179261 , Reply# 15   4/27/2023 at 20:39 (358 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I meant to say replaced by the new belt drives. |
Post# 1179376 , Reply# 16   4/29/2023 at 12:09 (356 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Whirlpool should have kept the dependable cares in production for their commercial/coin up market.
People must remember that the mechanism in these was designed for small portable washers in the 90s before being placed in full size machines and then eventually commercial OPL machines. It was never designed to drive a full size tub and agi let alone anything on premises. |
Post# 1179377 , Reply# 17   4/29/2023 at 12:13 (356 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1179387 , Reply# 18   4/29/2023 at 13:53 (356 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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You kidding? The Dependable care is a commercial grade design by default. Probably better than modern coin-op Speed Queens which are also pricey but still sell in the commercial market. DD is a residential grade design and the World Wash is portable (apartment) economy grade.
DC machine kept going when overloaded and typically only needed a belt change. Tons of laundry mats with dependable cares have proven it a great deign. |
Post# 1179404 , Reply# 19   4/29/2023 at 18:22 (356 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)   |   | |
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Chet! Where's your proof? |
Post# 1179422 , Reply# 20   4/29/2023 at 21:27 (356 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Ah, I've triggered the Modern/HE/Whirlpool-does-no-wrong crowd.
DCs lasting 30 years in residential with only minor repairs there after is more normal than not, coupled with DC surviving many years in laundry mats, apartments and OPLs would be ample proof in my world view. To deny this fact would be disingenuous. DDs lasting 30+ years without any repair while certainly not unheard doesn't hold en mass when the DC/DDs ratios are adjusted for.
Now, speaking from opinion, the DC design is the greatest, most beautiful, most practical TL washer ever produced hands down. If the world was with people like myself the DC design would make up at least 90% of all TLs washer across the globe and it would still be produced today across many names including center dial versions. 95% of Kenmore would have been DCs. The DCs design is not dated nor obsolete rather a timeless engineering perfection and will always remain so. Most other washer designs in my view are mere competition.
To those on here who like to use Maytag's finesse as a short coming- 50Hz pulleys and DA agitator designs would have taken care of that. In fact in my world customers would have the option to choose pulley and agi much the way people could choose what agi they had in a Kenmore. Whirlpool on the other end of the spectrum had to switch to low speed in the Normal wash, but somehow we choose to ignore that Whirlpool also had an over estimate.
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Post# 1179457 , Reply# 21   4/30/2023 at 06:43 (356 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1179460 , Reply# 22   4/30/2023 at 08:00 (355 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Maytag Dependable Cares are even better than the GE commercial washers which are garbage. So how was the dependable care less suitable for commercial use? |
Post# 1179471 , Reply# 23   4/30/2023 at 12:44 (355 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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I thought the Maytag 2-belt washers were the king of commercial top loaders. |
Post# 1179495 , Reply# 24   4/30/2023 at 19:30 (355 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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The Maytag dependable care was far too expensive to make
Buyers got what they paid for.
and not that well-suited for commercial use.
The helical platform proved itself in nearly 50 years of commercial use.
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Post# 1179606 , Reply# 25   5/2/2023 at 09:08 (353 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I've seen a lot of dependable cares in the commercial laundromats. |
Post# 1179641 , Reply# 26   5/2/2023 at 21:11 (353 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1179804 , Reply# 27   5/4/2023 at 13:19 (351 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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I'm glad I popped in after a long spell away. This thread has me chuckling.
These Maytag "commercials" seem like great machines for those wanting a traditional-ish top loader with a true dual-action agitator. People who have them love them, and Eugene (Lorain Furniture) has spoken highly of both this model pictured and the recent refresh model they just released. My only beef if I owned it would be that it needs a good sound insulating job, ie Noico on the inner cabinet panels and sound absorbing foam around the bottom 1/3 or so of the walls, and maybe a square cut of scrap carpet to slide underneath to muffle the drain pump. The Whirlpool 4800 I had was a fantastic machine and practically identical in operation to these, except that it had a true Small-Medium-Large-Super water level, and when it was muffled it didn't sound like the tinny bread machine the VMW's do out of the box. However, that's not saying that they're built or going to last the way the true Maytags or DirectDrives did, by any means. They do well when cared for and used with common sense, but they don't fare as well with the neglect and abuse of users overloading them and letting them stink of excess laundry additives. |
Post# 1179854 , Reply# 28   5/4/2023 at 20:04 (351 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1179859 , Reply# 29   5/4/2023 at 20:45 (351 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1179954 , Reply# 30   5/6/2023 at 12:12 (349 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)   |   | |
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I couldn't agree more about the sound issue with VMW machines especially the newer ones. I've watched several Youtube videos featuring these new VMW's especially the newest itteration of the Maytag commercial. While the tinny bread machine sound was always a bit hard to deal with, they now all seem to have this hideous rhythmic coughing noise issuing from the pump during final spin, after all the water has drained out. That is an automatic deal breaker for me. Until they address that problem, I won't be buying another one of these washers. I live in a one-bedroom apartment and the sound of the VMW's was hard to deal with in the first place, but that new coughing pump makes it impossible. I'm not sure what aspect of the design was altered to cause that noise, but they either need to re-design it again so that the sound goes away, or offer models with insulating materials built in.
The direct drive washer I have now, while not quiet by any means, isn't annoying in the same way. I'm not always a fan of the thumping agitation sound but somehow it's easier to deal with than the random clicks and pops of the VMW's, or the motor reversing sound of agitation. I was able to get past all that though and own one for nearly six years. The pump noise however ensures that if I have to replace my current washer, I will certainly be looking at something else. They definitely clean well and the dual-action agitator is a win as not many washers have them anymore, but sound matters especially in a small space where you can't really get away from it. Ryne |
Post# 1179956 , Reply# 31   5/6/2023 at 12:38 (349 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)   |   | |
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I remember when the Direct Drive washers were called Shread More because of the speedy oscillation. Now they are revered because nothing better was built after they were discontinued. |
Post# 1179965 , Reply# 32   5/6/2023 at 15:33 (349 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 1179976 , Reply# 33   5/6/2023 at 17:32 (349 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I had a “Shredmore” in 2001-2002. I hated that washer! It literally did shred my husband David white, long sleeved work shirts.
At first I wondered what was causing his shirts to have thread bare areas after they came out of the dryer, then I realized that the only thing that had changed was the washer. They may be durable washing machines, but they certainly are detrimental to the durability of the clothes washed in them. Eddie |
Post# 1179977 , Reply# 34   5/6/2023 at 17:44 (349 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1179982 , Reply# 35   5/6/2023 at 18:15 (349 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)   |   | |
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It's so very strange how everyone has such vastly different laundry experiences. I have used "shredmores" for years off and on -- most of my family owned them when I was growing up, the residential blind school I attended was full of them, I've used them in a couple different apartments, and I now own one. Never once have I had a shredding experience and I even use the regular (fast) cycle most of the time. I don't disbelieve people who have had the experience. I just find it odd how some people deal with the shredding issue while others never do.
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Post# 1179983 , Reply# 36   5/6/2023 at 18:20 (349 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Ryne, I just caught a liten to the final spin on the new Maytag Commercial. Regarding your comment regarding the "coughing" of the pump, that was a classic sound from vinrage machines too. I.E. the Norge and Wards versions after the redesign with the burping filter in 1969/1970. Neighbor across the street had one of these that erplaced the worn out 1963 Norge/Wards Signature. It was quite pronounced sound. Come to think o it, the 1950s Norge Timeline solid tub washers did a modified sound during agitation fter the tub had finished spilling any excess water during the wash agitation when not doing an overflow wash or rinse. I venture to guess that a similar sound was made during final moments o final spin too. I'll have to ponder this and see if any other brands come to mind from my childhood.
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Post# 1179986 , Reply# 37   5/6/2023 at 19:00 (349 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1179988 , Reply# 38   5/6/2023 at 19:39 (349 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1179989 , Reply# 39   5/6/2023 at 19:57 (349 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1179990 , Reply# 40   5/6/2023 at 20:18 (349 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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