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Post# 1178803   4/22/2023 at 20:50 (363 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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What are the best washing machine fill hoses someone can buy? I'm looking for quality hoses that will last at least 10 years and not swell or burst like rubber hoses. The rubber hot hose on my machine is currently bulging at the crimp resembling an olive.

 

If anyone knows of any good hoses out there I'm ready.





Post# 1178806 , Reply# 1   4/22/2023 at 21:49 (363 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I'm going to buy some of the stainless braided hoses from Lowes or Home Depot

Post# 1178819 , Reply# 2   4/23/2023 at 05:51 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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HD and Lowes tend to go on the cheap consumer end- I'd imagine there is something special the appliance techs buy for their own home?


Post# 1178821 , Reply# 3   4/23/2023 at 06:26 (362 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Best automatic, washer, inlet hoses

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These flood check hoses are very good a little pricey, they’re guaranteed for 25 years which probably means so easily last 50. These flood check hoses, have a much larger sure inside diameter, so they allow older machines to fill at full rate.

They are ideal for old whirlpool belt, drive machines, because they fill out a rate of nearly 9 gallons a minute three times as fast as a Maytag for example.

I also really like the whirlpool hoses with the braided nylon exteriors.

Not a big fan of stainless steel hoses. They are conductive so if you have a lightning strike, they may blow, I suppose they might be good if you have rats in your house that have a tendency to chew through hoses, lol.

Avoid the ones that claim to have an automatic shut off valve built into the hose. They caused a lot of service calls they shut down needlessly.

John


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Post# 1178823 , Reply# 4   4/23/2023 at 06:49 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Many Thanks!

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Do you have a link to the flood check hoses? Amazon doesn't seem to sell them?

 

Whats the warranty on the Whirlpool Nylon braided hoses and how do they compare to the Flood Check hoses?

 

 

I'm getting one or the other.

 

 

Also planning on using screened washers. Do I need 24mm or 26mm size?


Post# 1178825 , Reply# 5   4/23/2023 at 06:59 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Also, elbow or no elbow?

 

Maybe I'm wrong but I'm hearing Floodchek went out of business or just a rumor?

 

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Post# 1178827 , Reply# 6   4/23/2023 at 07:51 (362 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

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Also, how do these compare with the Whirlpool and Leakchek? Quality or hype?

 

www.amazon.com/Fluidmaste...


Post# 1178828 , Reply# 7   4/23/2023 at 07:56 (362 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA)        
Homewerks brand?

I have the Homewerks brand from Home Depot. Any opinions on these?They seem to fill faster and seem better quality than other hoses sold.

I want to look into the flood check ones though. With that said, I turn my water off/unplug when I am done using the washer machine just as a precaution. There are mixed views on unplugging washers. It is not something I use on a daily basis like a TV, so it's not that inconvenient just to plug in as needed and it just may save it from storm damage. I do use a surge protector. Same with water. I don't see how the wear/tear on the new quarter turn valves I have is different than turning off water at a sink or bathtub faucet.


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Post# 1178829 , Reply# 8   4/23/2023 at 08:11 (362 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA)        
Correction: FloodChek

I spelled these wrong in my post, and the spelling mistake can cause you NOT to find the ones John is referred to. If you look at the pictures, it looks like "FloodChek". I did a Google search. Looks like the FloodChek are only from authorized dealers? Definitely a good idea if you can find these especially in a situation where the water is left on.



Post# 1178830 , Reply# 9   4/23/2023 at 08:25 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Anyone know of an authorized dealer? How did you get your hoses John?


Post# 1178831 , Reply# 10   4/23/2023 at 08:32 (362 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Washing machine hoses, etc.

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I found about 50 pairs of flood, check hoses, places where they recycle washers they’re just thrown away with the machines, apparently a lot of high-end condominiums required these hoses to reduce the chance of property damage.

I have 14 machines hooked up at my home I only ever turn off the water if I’m going away for an extended vacation, I feel the chance of doing more damage by turning the pressure on and off to things all the time valves, hoses, inlet valves in the machines etc. it’s better just to leave them on unless your machine is in a spot. Where a lot of property damage would be done if something went wrong.

In this area, a lot of people buy high-end hoses since they’re always thrown away with the machines. I have more hoses that I would ever know what to do with, anyone who visits I will gladly give them a free set of heavy duty hoses.

John


Post# 1178832 , Reply# 11   4/23/2023 at 08:37 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Let me think about this. Do you ship by chance? 

 

 

 


Post# 1178837 , Reply# 12   4/23/2023 at 10:34 (362 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

Regular black rubber hoses purchased from an actual appliance parts house will last a very long time.


Post# 1178839 , Reply# 13   4/23/2023 at 11:28 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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The ones I have came with the Speed Queen. Perhaps a defective hose?


Post# 1178843 , Reply# 14   4/23/2023 at 12:25 (362 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)        
Hoses in Reply #6

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How are the hoses in reply 6? The Fluidmaster hoses. I wonder if they do actually provide faster flow.

Post# 1178845 , Reply# 15   4/23/2023 at 12:51 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Olive can't stay on the mind any longer

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Ok, so I just purchased this-

 

Model: 8212487RP

 

www.whirlpool.com/accesso...

 

And this -

 

Model: 285452A

 

www.whirlpool.com/accesso...

 

 

How do Whirlpool Nylon hoses compare to the Fluidmasters? Did I make the right choice?

 

www.amazon.com/Fluidmaste...

 

 

The way I figure is that anything unadulterated Whirlpool from the 80s, 90s, 2000s and 2010s is generally trouble free. The majority of the water restriction coming from the water valves in the Speed Queen and not the hose as would with a GE filter Flo washer which have mostly unrestricted valves. Am I correct about this?

 

The Fluidmasters do seem like they would let more water through.   

 

 

 

 


Post# 1178871 , Reply# 16   4/23/2023 at 16:43 (362 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Automatic washer, inlet hoses

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The flood check hoses, have a much bigger inside diameter than the fluid master hoses, however, unless you have an old belt drive machine, you don’t need that type of water flow.

I’ve seen an awful lot of the stainless steel hoses fail at the couplings, the stainless steel mesh is unnecessary but if you’d like it go for it I saw an apartment in the water gate flooded about two months ago when the hot water hose just blew off the coupling in the middle of the night went down four stories. They woke the guy up at 3 AM in the morning pounding on the door from the maintenance company . It was a nice stainless steel hose.

I think the only automatic washers I ever saw without a flow washer at all were Belt Drive whirlpool products as they filled the rate of almost 9 gallons a minute. I have never figured out why new washing machines fill it such a pathetic slow rate.

John


Post# 1178878 , Reply# 17   4/23/2023 at 17:56 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Thanks John, I love you bringing you experience to the discussion. smile I'm going to wager a bet that you've implying those Nylon Whirlpool hoses are almost just as good as the flood cheks and the Stainless ones come after the Nylon ones. At least that how I feel. I mean if you're putting Whirlpool Nylon hoses in your customer's homes that they have to be the best of the best next to floodchek.

 

 

"I have never figured out why new washing machines fill it such a pathetic slow rate."

 

 

 

My guess is three fold:

 

1) Behaviorism- incentive people into using the HE/auto fill option instead of the deep fill option. Make the HE cycle look faster. 

 

2) Efficiency and control- by wetting the clothes slowly during an HE fill it allows for more sensing input time for the control board to make decisions.  

 

3) Asset maximization- Having 10,000 washers on a public water supply filling slowly results in less demand/pressure drop at any given time than 10,000 washers pulling 9 gallons of water per minute. Utilities are doing everything possible to get an antiquated infrastructure to serve more civilians than it was originally designed for. 

 

At least thats my guess.


Post# 1178882 , Reply# 18   4/23/2023 at 18:31 (362 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The braiding on these included with my Intuitive Eco in 2004 has deteriorated but the hoses are OK.  They've been exposed for 10+ years to UV from three glass block windows in the master bath which may account for the deterioration.  The whirlpool tub jets, wall-mounted ceiling fan remote, and ceiling can-light rings are also discolored from nearly 20 years of the UV.  The three washers in there are connected to the bathtub faucet which is turned off after use but I don't relieve the residual pressure.  I don't turn off the taps on the machine in the utility room unless I'm (rarely) planning to be gone for several days in which case I may turn off the whole house at the well tank.

I don't know if the 2nd photo, found online several years ago, is real or staged.


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Post# 1178908 , Reply# 19   4/23/2023 at 23:36 (362 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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My asko came with PEX hoses from the factory

Post# 1178948 , Reply# 20   4/24/2023 at 11:20 (361 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Question

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Do the washer screens go in pointing in or out?


Post# 1178958 , Reply# 21   4/24/2023 at 12:17 (361 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
Do the washer screens go in pointing in or out?

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They point outward.

 

If you point them inward, crud will accumulate in the middle and restrict water flow.


Post# 1178959 , Reply# 22   4/24/2023 at 12:20 (361 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Place them on the faucet ends of the hoses, oriented outward toward the flow from the faucets.  IMO, don't place screens at the machine's water valve if screens are already in the valve ports.  Additional screens there would have to be oriented into the hoses or they'd be crushed against the screens in the ports and possibly damage them.


Post# 1178962 , Reply# 23   4/24/2023 at 13:02 (361 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Reply number 21

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Correct there’s more filtering area when they’re pointing outward into the Fossett, they don’t really fit if you put them in the other way anyway.

John.


Post# 1178965 , Reply# 24   4/24/2023 at 13:33 (361 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Outward, got it.

 

They won't hit pre-installed screens in the water valve when pointing outward, correct?

 

 

 


Post# 1179005 , Reply# 25   4/24/2023 at 19:31 (361 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Inlet hose washers with screens

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The washers with screens only go in the end of the hose attached to the supply faucet.

 

John 


Post# 1179007 , Reply# 26   4/24/2023 at 19:44 (361 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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The baggy comes with 4, I want to put them on both ends if possible. Redundant protection is in my DNA, lol.  


Post# 1179012 , Reply# 27   4/24/2023 at 20:06 (361 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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I wouldn't recommend using them at both ends, it will restrict water flow. It's something I tried about 14 years ago when I was using them at every junction on all of the hoses connecting to my tempering valve and machine. The water valve already has one to begin with. The screens do come in a variety of fine and coarse meshes, I use a really fine mesh screen which works well but they must be checked semi regularly for buildup since they naturally catch more junk.


Post# 1179262 , Reply# 28   4/27/2023 at 20:39 (358 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Olive Be Gone

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Ok, so the Whirlpool hoses have not shipped yet (Whirlpool says they are running behind, anything appliance manufacturer sucks today), and I couldn't resist same day delivery on Amazon. So yahhh, until the Nylon hoses come. 

 

 

 


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Post# 1179263 , Reply# 29   4/27/2023 at 20:43 (358 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
The Olive

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