Thread Number: 93237
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
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Post# 1178803   4/22/2023 at 20:50 (363 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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What are the best washing machine fill hoses someone can buy? I'm looking for quality hoses that will last at least 10 years and not swell or burst like rubber hoses. The rubber hot hose on my machine is currently bulging at the crimp resembling an olive.
If anyone knows of any good hoses out there I'm ready. |
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Post# 1178806 , Reply# 1   4/22/2023 at 21:49 (363 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 1178819 , Reply# 2   4/23/2023 at 05:51 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1178821 , Reply# 3   4/23/2023 at 06:26 (362 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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These flood check hoses are very good a little pricey, they’re guaranteed for 25 years which probably means so easily last 50. These flood check hoses, have a much larger sure inside diameter, so they allow older machines to fill at full rate.
They are ideal for old whirlpool belt, drive machines, because they fill out a rate of nearly 9 gallons a minute three times as fast as a Maytag for example. I also really like the whirlpool hoses with the braided nylon exteriors. Not a big fan of stainless steel hoses. They are conductive so if you have a lightning strike, they may blow, I suppose they might be good if you have rats in your house that have a tendency to chew through hoses, lol. Avoid the ones that claim to have an automatic shut off valve built into the hose. They caused a lot of service calls they shut down needlessly. John |
Post# 1178823 , Reply# 4   4/23/2023 at 06:49 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1178825 , Reply# 5   4/23/2023 at 06:59 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Also, elbow or no elbow?
Maybe I'm wrong but I'm hearing Floodchek went out of business or just a rumor?
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Post# 1178827 , Reply# 6   4/23/2023 at 07:51 (362 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1178830 , Reply# 9   4/23/2023 at 08:25 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1178831 , Reply# 10   4/23/2023 at 08:32 (362 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I found about 50 pairs of flood, check hoses, places where they recycle washers they’re just thrown away with the machines, apparently a lot of high-end condominiums required these hoses to reduce the chance of property damage.
I have 14 machines hooked up at my home I only ever turn off the water if I’m going away for an extended vacation, I feel the chance of doing more damage by turning the pressure on and off to things all the time valves, hoses, inlet valves in the machines etc. it’s better just to leave them on unless your machine is in a spot. Where a lot of property damage would be done if something went wrong. In this area, a lot of people buy high-end hoses since they’re always thrown away with the machines. I have more hoses that I would ever know what to do with, anyone who visits I will gladly give them a free set of heavy duty hoses. John |
Post# 1178832 , Reply# 11   4/23/2023 at 08:37 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1178837 , Reply# 12   4/23/2023 at 10:34 (362 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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Regular black rubber hoses purchased from an actual appliance parts house will last a very long time. |
Post# 1178839 , Reply# 13   4/23/2023 at 11:28 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1178843 , Reply# 14   4/23/2023 at 12:25 (362 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN)   |   | |
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Post# 1178845 , Reply# 15   4/23/2023 at 12:51 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Ok, so I just purchased this-
Model: 8212487RP
And this -
Model: 285452A
How do Whirlpool Nylon hoses compare to the Fluidmasters? Did I make the right choice?
The way I figure is that anything unadulterated Whirlpool from the 80s, 90s, 2000s and 2010s is generally trouble free. The majority of the water restriction coming from the water valves in the Speed Queen and not the hose as would with a GE filter Flo washer which have mostly unrestricted valves. Am I correct about this?
The Fluidmasters do seem like they would let more water through.
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Post# 1178871 , Reply# 16   4/23/2023 at 16:43 (362 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The flood check hoses, have a much bigger inside diameter than the fluid master hoses, however, unless you have an old belt drive machine, you don’t need that type of water flow.
I’ve seen an awful lot of the stainless steel hoses fail at the couplings, the stainless steel mesh is unnecessary but if you’d like it go for it I saw an apartment in the water gate flooded about two months ago when the hot water hose just blew off the coupling in the middle of the night went down four stories. They woke the guy up at 3 AM in the morning pounding on the door from the maintenance company . It was a nice stainless steel hose. I think the only automatic washers I ever saw without a flow washer at all were Belt Drive whirlpool products as they filled the rate of almost 9 gallons a minute. I have never figured out why new washing machines fill it such a pathetic slow rate. John |
Post# 1178878 , Reply# 17   4/23/2023 at 17:56 (362 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Thanks John, I love you bringing you experience to the discussion. I'm going to wager a bet that you've implying those Nylon Whirlpool hoses are almost just as good as the flood cheks and the Stainless ones come after the Nylon ones. At least that how I feel. I mean if you're putting Whirlpool Nylon hoses in your customer's homes that they have to be the best of the best next to floodchek.
My guess is three fold:
1) Behaviorism- incentive people into using the HE/auto fill option instead of the deep fill option. Make the HE cycle look faster.
2) Efficiency and control- by wetting the clothes slowly during an HE fill it allows for more sensing input time for the control board to make decisions.
3) Asset maximization- Having 10,000 washers on a public water supply filling slowly results in less demand/pressure drop at any given time than 10,000 washers pulling 9 gallons of water per minute. Utilities are doing everything possible to get an antiquated infrastructure to serve more civilians than it was originally designed for.
At least thats my guess. |
Post# 1178882 , Reply# 18   4/23/2023 at 18:31 (362 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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The braiding on these included with my Intuitive Eco in 2004 has deteriorated but the hoses are OK. They've been exposed for 10+ years to UV from three glass block windows in the master bath which may account for the deterioration. The whirlpool tub jets, wall-mounted ceiling fan remote, and ceiling can-light rings are also discolored from nearly 20 years of the UV. The three washers in there are connected to the bathtub faucet which is turned off after use but I don't relieve the residual pressure. I don't turn off the taps on the machine in the utility room unless I'm (rarely) planning to be gone for several days in which case I may turn off the whole house at the well tank. I don't know if the 2nd photo, found online several years ago, is real or staged. |
Post# 1178908 , Reply# 19   4/23/2023 at 23:36 (362 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 1178948 , Reply# 20   4/24/2023 at 11:20 (361 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1178958 , Reply# 21   4/24/2023 at 12:17 (361 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 1178959 , Reply# 22   4/24/2023 at 12:20 (361 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Place them on the faucet ends of the hoses, oriented outward toward the flow from the faucets. IMO, don't place screens at the machine's water valve if screens are already in the valve ports. Additional screens there would have to be oriented into the hoses or they'd be crushed against the screens in the ports and possibly damage them. |
Post# 1178962 , Reply# 23   4/24/2023 at 13:02 (361 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1178965 , Reply# 24   4/24/2023 at 13:33 (361 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1179005 , Reply# 25   4/24/2023 at 19:31 (361 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1179007 , Reply# 26   4/24/2023 at 19:44 (361 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1179012 , Reply# 27   4/24/2023 at 20:06 (361 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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I wouldn't recommend using them at both ends, it will restrict water flow. It's something I tried about 14 years ago when I was using them at every junction on all of the hoses connecting to my tempering valve and machine. The water valve already has one to begin with. The screens do come in a variety of fine and coarse meshes, I use a really fine mesh screen which works well but they must be checked semi regularly for buildup since they naturally catch more junk. |
Post# 1179262 , Reply# 28   4/27/2023 at 20:39 (358 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Ok, so the Whirlpool hoses have not shipped yet (Whirlpool says they are running behind, anything appliance manufacturer sucks today), and I couldn't resist same day delivery on Amazon. So yahhh, until the Nylon hoses come.
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Post# 1179263 , Reply# 29   4/27/2023 at 20:43 (358 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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