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Post# 1188180   8/22/2023 at 12:05 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I just saw this video from an enthusiast. Says we're expecting to get new models from SQ shortly but with bigger tubs. Also they're expanding with their new facility in Texas which I never heard of until now. And said some things that were misleading like the 10 year warranty, they're currently not offering that at this time. What do you think? Are we getting new models soon? To me, I'm not sure. I know with tighter restrictions we have currently and since this guy hasn't answered some of my questions, I find it hard to be true.






Post# 1188188 , Reply# 1   8/22/2023 at 13:14 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The 2024 Speed Queen, Texas edition.

Post# 1188190 , Reply# 2   8/22/2023 at 14:20 by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
I don't understand why

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For decades, the 3.2 cu ft tub would be considered very large and enough for even large families for a top loader. How many people actually have a king sized comforter? Then you can get a front loader which SQ makes.

Somehow, there must be a way to separate the tub and agitation in the TR models to make them wash better. It seems like SQ could quietly do that in upcoming models and that way its not admitting a mistake too much.


Post# 1188192 , Reply# 3   8/22/2023 at 14:51 by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis)        

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Reply #2 hits it on the head regarding the capacity thing. I've never understood the need for those mammoth 5 cu. ft. and over top load washers. My 3.2 cu. ft. traditional top load washer handles very large loads on a regular basis and I can't imagine needing to wash bigger loads than this. On top of that, those huge top load washres especially the impeller versions won't wash effectively if they're filled much beyond halfway so capacity is actually more or less the same. I'm not sure any top load washer can wash a king-size comforter very well but if we're really honest with ourselves how many people actually own one, and of those who do, how often do you really need to wash it? If you really have the need for room to do giant loads or king-size comforters you should probably have a front loader, although even in that case I'm not sure anyone needs much more capacity than, say, an old Whirlpool direct drive will hold. I think people who can truthfully say they regularly wash 20 large bath towels at a time are the minority. So I guess what I'm saying is Speed Queen will likely find that increasing the capacity of their top load washers won't increase actual capacity very much, so the current models are probably just fine.

Post# 1188193 , Reply# 4   8/22/2023 at 14:54 by appnut (TX)        

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Everything is bgger in Texas

Post# 1188194 , Reply# 5   8/22/2023 at 15:11 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Not to sound like this, but they keep on making machines bigger and bigger since people seem to be too lazy and negligent these days to separate laundry by color and soil level. By the time you separate everything, itís not a very large load. The people who keep on demanding these machine then start complaining why their white socks and shirts are coming out dingy, gee I wonder why. When you wash very dirty clothes with clothes that are lightly soiled, they arenít going to get properly cleaned since the filth if you will is just moved to different clothes and everything wonít be cleaned to itís fullest potential.

Post# 1188196 , Reply# 6   8/22/2023 at 15:33 by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Many complaints that the TR platform doesn't wash with sufficient aggression, how can it handle a larger capacity?


Post# 1188200 , Reply# 7   8/22/2023 at 16:20 by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Capacity

We recently moved. Installed in the new house was a BOL Roper DD. Capacity wasn't as bad as I expected, but we were doing loads of towels 2x a week. Now that we have the KenLG installed again, I can safely say that the 20 towels per load are completely normal for us, and not to mention how much it saves in water, electric, detergent, and time. That might be a part of SQ's goal here. A larger tub would likely appeal to the average consumer, as well as (potentially) increasing score on CR testing.

Post# 1188205 , Reply# 8   8/22/2023 at 17:20 by chetlaham (United States)        
Hate To Say It

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Capacity is the #1 consumer driver since the inception of automatic washers.

 

And behind the death of all good, long lasting washers.

 

 

The dual action agitator is what made Whirlpool so popular, the super capacity was what got model Ts into so many homes, larger capacity tubs are what put Maytag out of business, the relatively small tub ended the Frigidaire Unimatic, giant loads are what made FLs a common buy. 

 

Every time I've been on the sales floor of an appliance store I've overheard people make their final decision based on capacity.

 

Little do people know that you can only put in so large a wash tub before you sacrifice every other component of the machine and its ability to actually clean. 

 

If what the vid is saying is true Speed Queen is trying to compete with Whirlpool, GE, LG, ect which I can see ending the way it did for Maytag. Large capacity washers but with many downfalls because people are to vapid to realize nothing good comes out of reinventing the wheel. 

 

If everyone was like me the Maytag DC would dominate and everyone would agree all the extra capacity is just not worth it.

 

I sort clothes, and I wash in divided loads. I can fit a comforter in my Queen and it washes well. I have never had a need for a larger wash tub.


Post# 1188212 , Reply# 9   8/22/2023 at 17:49 by chetlaham (United States)        

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@Neptunebob-

 

Jerome has worded it better than I can. But I think it boils down to the fact people hate doing laundry and let everything pile up until there aren't any clean clothes, towels and bed sheets available. They then stuff everything into one load, dry everything in one load, then repeat the cycle.

 

If it all fits, and it all appears reasonably clean, then the average consumer doesn't see anything wrong to get bothered by.

 

Me- I sort loads into bed sheets, delicates, undergarments, comforters, rags, jeans/shirts/socks, hang dry, ect.

 

Each load gets its own cycle and temperature.

 

Bed sheets go on warm (colored) or hot (allergy, white sheets). Washed in the Permanent press cycle because of the first spin being slow.

 

Rags, very dirty towels, soiled underwear, and socks are washed in hot. Heavy time, regular cycle, two or three Tide pods. 

 

Jeans in warm wash, regular cycle.

 

Shirts, average towels, pants, ect warm wash regular cycle. 

 

Undergarments, dresses, panties, cold or cold topped with warm, delicate cycle, Woolite detergent.

 

Nightgowns, casuals, ect warm wash delicate cycle.

 

Comforters washed in hot water, delicate cycle then set to one final spin on the regular cycle before being put into the dryer. 

 

Soak cycle as a prewash for heavily soiled items, will pause the timer if extra soak time is needed.

 

Water level set to match the load size.

 

Extra rinse if needed. Softener added to the final rinse if desired.

 

One Tide pod works 90% of the time, two or three if the load is soiled enough.

 

It works. No larger tub necessary. 

 

 


Post# 1188224 , Reply# 10   8/22/2023 at 19:26 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
I watch the full seven minute video

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There was only about 45 seconds worth of information there, I would conclude by saying the guy doesnít know s..t.

Itís really sad how little people in the Appliance industry know, the TR and the TC tub is the same for example, and if you want a big Speed Queen today, itís called the frontload Speed Queen it will do a larger load then the Toploader, and even the new Toploader that they may bring out now and you donít have to wait for it.

This guy has a lot of phobias and weird information, I would not plan on ever watching one of his videos again.

John.


Post# 1188243 , Reply# 11   8/22/2023 at 21:59 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Speed Queen Texas Edition

What will this new Speed Queen Texas Edition look like in action? What's the model# of this machine? How will it sound? How well will it wash? I'd like to know.

Post# 1188244 , Reply# 12   8/22/2023 at 22:03 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
sorting laundry properly

People still don't get it when it comes to sorting laundry properly. My family has always sorted laundry properly even with huge loads. My 3.2 GE that I had handled it well, shockingly considered how cheaply well it was built. It all boils down to how much laundry detergent, fabric softener, and bleach you use depending on what you're washing. I'd rather do laundry properly than shove everything into 1 unsorted load on cold water.

Post# 1188245 , Reply# 13   8/22/2023 at 22:17 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
how I do laundry

This is how I do my laundry and it goes like this:
Whites: hot wash, normal cycle, heavy soil with bleach.
Light colors: warm wash, normal cycle, heavy soil.
Dark colors: cold wash, normal cycle, heavy soil.
I use fabric softener on everything when desired. I use it all the time.
I use however many pods according to the soil level or size of the load.
1 for small to medium loads, 2 for large loads, and 3 for super loads.
If people would just pay attention to what they're doing, we wouldn't be in this position of getting bigger machines. Most people are just too stupid when it comes to laundry. Stuffing everything into a giant load, washing everything on cold... I could go on and on.
Don't even get me started on poor maintenance. What do people expect?


Post# 1188388 , Reply# 14   8/24/2023 at 11:42 by decodriveboy (FL, US)        
Capacity

I have to say that capacity was the deciding factor on our recent purchase of LG. We have king sized comforters and large dog beds needing weekly laundering at least.

My heart was set on a Miele washer and dryer, but after seeing them in person, my heart sank knowing that my husband would never go for it. Even the Miele Little Giants are the same capacity as their W series washers, which amazes me. If Miele would ever make large American-sized units, that would be the dream.

With that being said, I also am a believer in separating laundry, and picking cycles and temps according to color, fabric, soil, etc. whenever called for.


Post# 1188397 , Reply# 15   8/24/2023 at 13:03 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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Miele's previous attempt at uber-sized American style washers was model 48xx which was by most accounts a disaster. Indeed Bosch also tried their hands about same time with NEXXT large washer and they too had issues. Both Miele and Bosch withdrew their large machines subsequently and haven't bothered since.

Largest size Miele washers sold in USA hold about 20lbs of wash. This is about same rated capacity as smallest offerings from commercial/laundromat machines such as SQ, Dexter, and so on.


Miele does have their "professional" range of washers and dryers available in some countries, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.





www.mieleusa.com/e/profes...

What sets "Little Giant" line of professional washers and dryers separate from their domestic cousins among other bits is duty cycles and cycle times.




Post# 1188415 , Reply# 16   8/24/2023 at 16:49 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
new speed queens

Will the new Speed Queen Laundry line have glass lid tops? What motor will they use? How will they be able to handle king-sized loads? Will it have a washplate or impeller or stick with their agitator?

Post# 1188418 , Reply# 17   8/24/2023 at 17:22 by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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Jerome, You need to ask those questions to Speed Queen, as none of us work for them and could answer them.

Post# 1188422 , Reply# 18   8/24/2023 at 17:47 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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Not wishing to stir old pools, but what exactly do Americans have laundry wise that they insist on huge H-axis washing machines.

As stated smallest commercial/OPL/laundromat washers start at range of 18-24lbs, that is buckets of capacity for most normal household use.

In Europe and elsewhere most households long have sent big or bulky things out to laundries or use larger washers at laundromats. IMHO this seems a far more practical solution than frequently turning to domestic washing machines that may or may not be able to cope with being pushed into such routine service.

About 11kg is top range for front loaders in Europe, which again seems like buckets of capacity for normal purposes.

www.currys.co.uk/techtalk...


Post# 1188427 , Reply# 19   8/24/2023 at 18:54 by Logixx (Germany)        

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14 kg is the most I have seen in Germany (without jumping up in size to US washers). It's a Hoover washer with probably the worst laundry to volume ratio I have come across. 31 lbs. in a 2.9 cucic feet drum. Would love to see the origami magic that is needed to fit all that in there.

Post# 1188442 , Reply# 20   8/24/2023 at 23:39 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
pressing questions

I would ask these pressing questions, but I have a feeling that I won't get a straight answer. I would like to know. Will they go to a dual action agitator with the short/fast stroke? What will they do next? Speed Queen, if you are reading this, please tell me. We would like to know.

Post# 1188464 , Reply# 21   8/25/2023 at 05:00 by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Funny enough, we HAVE US machines here by LG and Samsung.

They are rated up to 18kg, which is just shy of 40lbs.


Their biggest issue comes down to EU homes not having hot water for the laundry setup usually AND them wanting to suit situations where the washer isn't on its own electric circuit - so they limit the washer to 2kW of heating power instead of the theoretical 3.6kW max total if it was on its own standard circuit.

Heating 40lbs of laundry plus like 80lbs of water from tap cold to hot takes eternities.
Professional machines run at 14-18kW of heating power for that size load.



To add to the Hoover load size absurdity:
They make a combo washer dryer in the EU size that is rated to wash and dry 9kg (20lbs) in that 83l (2.9cuft) drum non stop.
Takes exactly 10h on the label cycle.

Easiest thing I found to picture load sizes was a comparison used by appliances online in their product videos - one regular T-Shirt is about 200g.
So 5 T-Shirts are 1kg, or about 2 T-Shirts per pound.

So 45 T-Shirts to wash and dry - or 70 T-Shirts just to wash.


Post# 1188467 , Reply# 22   8/25/2023 at 06:13 by logixx (Germany)        
Not using the full potential of Euro electric

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Yeah, my Duet does have hot/cold inlets but I kinda still wished it would draw 3kW for heating. And as Henrik mentioned, there was/is no hot-water outlet in any of the places I installed my washer (except for one).

That reminds me of the American Bosch Nexxt washer that made it over here. Bosch did adapt the cycle to the European market--- but took away the hot fill and left the small American heater in there! 3+ cubic foot drum full of coldd, wet clothes and only 1,000 watts to heat. I should dig up the manual and see how long the 194F wash took.


Post# 1188473 , Reply# 23   8/25/2023 at 07:35 by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Bosch Logixx 9 / Nexxt

One of the most bizarre decisions I ever saw on a washer, indeed.

They had to change the ENTIRE electrical system for the EU version.
They had to create a new heater spec to run at the lower wattage with the higher voltage - and yet STILL decided to use the lower wattage.

Using an existing heater from a different EU washer would have been a better choice.

A boilwash was 200min.
The 60C was surprisingly decent at 130-150min depending on setting.

Really no idea why they did that.


Post# 1188491 , Reply# 24   8/25/2023 at 14:32 by Brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

The Aussie Neptune was the same. From memory the element was 1100 watts, if you let it cold fill, it would run for 3 hours to heat to 60.

My duet is cold fill only, but it has a 2200 watt element. It takes around 2 hours for a cottons 60 with two rinses.


Post# 1188497 , Reply# 25   8/25/2023 at 16:08 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
Warning slight thread hijack!

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Samsung 18kg washer and matching dryer.














Post# 1188502 , Reply# 26   8/25/2023 at 16:59 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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Like Miele Bosch made a huge deal about introducing their NEXXT washer and dryer line. Things looked good on paper and both sets appealed to those wanting European front loaders with promised American uber sized capacity.





Where Bosch did have it over Miele was they built their large washers in USA. Miele OTOH imported those huge 48XX washers and matching dryers from Europe. That of course made them very expensive.

Ironically W1 line of washers (IIRC) has same or greater capacity than Miele's 48xx machines. IIRC owners manual for 48xx washers stated they should only be loaded to about half or three quarter drum capacity for "normal" cotton/linens. What was point then of having such a huge washer if one couldn't use drum to fullest?

Miele's other washer introduced at same time, the 3XXX series actually had greater capacity than 48XX. This especially because one could load the thing like Miele washers of old.


Post# 1188504 , Reply# 27   8/25/2023 at 17:04 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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One keeps rabbiting on about capacity because at least for normal/cottons/linens h-axis washers are happiest when loaded to full rated capacity. There are far less issues with spinning, OOB, etc... when washer is fully loaded.





Modern front loaders with fully computer controlled motors and drum rhythms are some what better at coping with OOB, but at what cost. Some machines will faff about for what seems like ages in aid of attempting to distribute load so can spin. Many times machines won't spin or will do so at reduced rpm because it just couldn't cope.

On another note owner of Samsung machine above states clearly despite having a washer with uber sized capacity he's still doing multiple loads. That's because after sorting there often isn't 18kg of whatever to be washed.


Post# 1188507 , Reply# 28   8/25/2023 at 17:36 by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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I remember when I was a kid we had a 380V 3 phase outlet in the basement for the washer which was state of the art in the 60s but unfortunately didn`t persist for long.
Many washers back then had a weaker and a stronger 220V element to either connect the strong one into a 10A lightning circuit or both paralleled into a 16A 220V circuit or in series to 380V for seriously fast heating.
Apparently people didn`t like the extra cost of having their washer wired, so they disappeared in the 70s.
Then we still could choose between 10 and 16A models as a 220V plug and play solution with 16A models definitely dominating the market.
Then the Berlin Wall fell in 89 and soon after Germany was reunited all washers and dishwashers were limited to 10A. The wiring in the former GDR was terribly bad and water volumes were already low enough to get decently fast heating with lower wattage.
Now capacity has been getting larger and larger and I wonder why the engineers missed to go back to at least tried and proven 3000 Watts 16A elements. Cycle times are getting so ridiculously long.

Apologies to OP for getting so off topic!


Post# 1188508 , Reply# 29   8/25/2023 at 17:48 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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My Miele W1070 has two 1500 watt heating elements and is rated for total of 3200 watts at 20 amps. That is some serious heating power.

Post# 1188510 , Reply# 30   8/25/2023 at 18:03 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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380v three phase is interesting. Apparently was quite common in Germany (West only?) for use of appliances such as cooker, hot water heaters, washing machines.

www.electrical-contractor...

www.plugsocketmuseum.nl/Obsolete...

diy.stackexchange.com/questions/...


Post# 1188533 , Reply# 31   8/26/2023 at 02:05 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
subject

Let's get back to the subject. And now back to the regularly schedule program of Speed Queen 2024.

Post# 1188557 , Reply# 32   8/26/2023 at 12:59 by John76 (USA)        

I much prefer smaller loads with similar laundry items. My machine is so quiet it no longer disrupts the main floor of the house with noise. I now wash anytime necessary. I have no need for anything larger than my TR5.

Post# 1188558 , Reply# 33   8/26/2023 at 13:08 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
washloads

My washloads vary in size, yet the loads are always presorted by color. I have pretty much nothing but sturdy cottons, so the cycle change is unnecessary. Everything goes on normal with heavy soil for a real deep rinse.

Post# 1188618 , Reply# 34   8/27/2023 at 07:55 by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
any pics of the new 2024 speed queen hubesch(canada) washer

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Simple question any pics of the new 2024 speed queen hubesch (canada) washer and any matching dryer?

Post# 1188641 , Reply# 35   8/27/2023 at 13:52 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
2024 Speed Queen Pictures

Good question, I'd like to know what the 2024 Speed Queen Laundry Line looks like.

Post# 1188672 , Reply# 36   8/27/2023 at 20:04 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Remember when SQ released the new TR7 a few years ago and we were all in shock at how awful the circulation was? It wasn't so bad with regular clothes but it was anything bulky or stiff that you ran into problems.. It's like there wasn't enough circulation to move the stiffer or bulkier items.. Didn't they do a revision on this to make it slightly better? I haven't kept up much..

but the biggest question I have is this: Don't they do testing before releasing it? Wouldn't they test wash all kinds of fabrics and actually SEE the circulation for themselves?? Wouldn't they have seen (during testing) that there might be a problem?


Post# 1188803 , Reply# 37   8/29/2023 at 09:48 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
2024 Speed Queen Laundry

How will this supposedly bigger Speed Queen Line handle extra heavy loads? What about very dirty blue jeans? What will the future hold for them? Are we gonna see slanted tops like some Maytags?

Post# 1188865 , Reply# 38   8/30/2023 at 05:38 by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Quantum Controls

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Maybe there will be a new model with Quantum Touch Screen like the commercial machines got a year or two ago.

I would also like the FL with the rear controls back...

Malcolm


Post# 1188866 , Reply# 39   8/30/2023 at 07:41 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
wash action

What will the wash action look like on these new Speed Queen Laundry machines for next year? What are the chances we will see a wash plate or dual action with short/fast strokes?

Post# 1190242 , Reply# 40   9/18/2023 at 21:37 by blueste (USA)        

So, Iíve noticed over the past few months of research, the person that posted the video about SQ makes a lot of incorrect claims. So, could they be creating a larger tub washer? Perhaps. Although I would argued SQ has more usable space than the larger competitive tubs just based on the fact the whole SQ tub is capable of filling with water. I also find it hard to believe they would build a new plant in TX. Most companies would add on to existing facilities or at least in the same area. If the TX rumor is true, perhaps they plan to source a lot from Mexico to bring down costs. I guess time will tell. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Post# 1190258 , Reply# 41   9/19/2023 at 01:31 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I just noticed online that SQ now has some black models listed on their website.

Post# 1190270 , Reply# 42   9/19/2023 at 11:48 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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From my understanding, they appear to be the same thing as the white models but more expensive.

speedqueen.com/products/all-prod...


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Post# 1190282 , Reply# 43   9/19/2023 at 15:52 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
color

So it appears that the only thing they're changing is the color. Correct?

Post# 1190285 , Reply# 44   9/19/2023 at 16:56 by blueste (USA)        

Yep, looks like just an additional color. No functional changes, at this time.

Post# 1190301 , Reply# 45   9/19/2023 at 20:14 by blueste (USA)        

www.prnewswire.com/news-r...

Post# 1190310 , Reply# 46   9/20/2023 at 04:56 by chetlaham (United States)        

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I have a feeling Speed Queen is trying to go into serious competition with the residential market. Depending how they play it out this could be really really good or go really really bad IMO.

 

If they offer good products with features that consumers look for but are also durable/long lasting this would finally force Whirlpool to improve their durability. The laundry market as a whole will finally improve for the better in at least 40 years.

 

 

On the other hand if their new design does not meet market expectations Speed Queen will end up with a huge loss.

 

Though, my biggest fear is an extensive laundry offering that makes it into big box stores but is not any better longevity or durability wise than its competitors. The last thing the market needs is another name attached to a chintzy machine designed to break after 5-10 years.


Post# 1190490 , Reply# 47   9/23/2023 at 06:45 by Carolina128 (NC)        
New (?) TL3 model

At some point Speed Queen has, without any fanfare, realized a ďnewĒ model, the TL3.

speedqueen.com/rto/...

It seems to be just a TR3, but with the color scheme of the TC5 for some odd reason. Not really much to say about this otherwise, itís just a strange machine that SQ seems almost embarrassed by: itís not linked to anywhere on the website. You have to be deliberately searching for it to find it.


Post# 1190499 , Reply# 48   9/23/2023 at 09:32 by PinkPower4 (USA)        
The TL3 design will add to the confusion...Pet Cycle?

I personally prefer the more subtle white/silver panel over the black/white panel, so I was glad the TC5 series came in that. In the past, it has always been easy to tell someone to look for the white/silver panel and NOT the black/white panel when initially distinguishing the TC series from the TR series. Now people will have to specify the model number.

The new panel color option for the TR series will only confuse consumers who are reading through older posts and then confidently think they are choosing the TC series.

I do like the black matte finish of the TR series, but I would still choose the white/silver option as it's less obvious to have a mismatched white set versus black (few washers/dryers are offered in black), if needed, later.

The bottom line is the TC series is the best of both--gentle and more aggressive wash action as needed. Where Speed Queen missed the opportunity to compete better with other brands was to provide a water level control for the TC5 and to provide more advanced options in the form of a touch pad control panel for it for those who want that--a TC7. At least it looks like the TC5 in its present form will continue to be made :-).

The difference in price between the Maytag mvwp585 and TC series can be a factor for people deciding too as is the water level control the Maytag has added. Both are good machines, but the TC series is a better value for the dollar if both are priced within a few hundred dollars.

I don't really understand what the pet plus cycle on their washers and dryers are. How is that different from what I can do with the TC5 set? How is it removing odors (wash) and fur (wash or dry)? I do realize the TC series lacks steam and the overdry protection.



Post# 1190505 , Reply# 49   9/23/2023 at 12:23 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
tl3

I didn't know there was a tl3. I thought it was the tr3.

Post# 1190507 , Reply# 50   9/23/2023 at 13:06 by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Jerome, the TL3 is a TR3 with the control panel being of a lighter color scheme like the TC5.


Post# 1190511 , Reply# 51   9/23/2023 at 15:31 by blueste (USA)        

TL3- Rent to own? Interesting

Post# 1190564 , Reply# 52   9/24/2023 at 15:05 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
tl3

It's nice to know the tl3 has a lighter color control panel. I wonder. What will hold for the future of Speed Queen? There could be a possibility they could be the last holdout to go to that fast short stroke agitation transmission like GE did, along with others before them. I believe Whirlpool was the first to do that, followed by Maytag, then GE. Maybe Speed Queen will. We don't know, but would like to.

Post# 1190623 , Reply# 53   9/25/2023 at 12:01 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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So maybe the rumors I've heard about the TC7 might be true afterall, I guess we'll see by next year.

Post# 1190636 , Reply# 54   9/25/2023 at 15:56 by appnut (TX)        

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I wish they would make a TC7

Post# 1190638 , Reply# 55   9/25/2023 at 16:52 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
tc7

I too wish there was a tc7. Maybe the tc7 will have to go to that short/fast agitation and neutral drain transmission system like Whirlpool did.

Post# 1190647 , Reply# 56   9/25/2023 at 19:36 by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Itís official if itís on Facebook, right?

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