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2006 Kenmore Elite Calypso
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Post# 1190473   9/22/2023 at 18:28 (387 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Hello,

I was hoping to get some assistance or a service manual to help me figure out an odd problem. Whenever the washer attempts to spin, it immediately goes out of balance. A few things I noticed was the balance ring was damaged in one section. I am not sure what contents it is supposed to have if any. It was halfway filled with water. Also noticed the tub is able to be picked up a few inches to meet the wash plate. Wasn’t sure if that was normal or not. Thought I read somewhere of a floating basket. I did not want to go through the trouble of undoing all the bolts and removing the leveler if I don’t need to go that far. Any help that can be provided will be greatly appreciated.





Post# 1190475 , Reply# 1   9/22/2023 at 18:33 (387 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
For reference

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I wanted to share the link for the original thread when Martin found this for me.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO BrianL's LINK


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Post# 1190477 , Reply# 2   9/22/2023 at 19:24 (387 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Also found this

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This was underneath the wash plate.

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Post# 1190481 , Reply# 3   9/22/2023 at 22:45 (387 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The basket has a center hub that's the same/similar material as a frontloader spider and is subject to corrosion and deterioration/breakage, which can cause it to loosen from the basket.  The basket anchors to the drive via the hub and a spanner nut.  That looks like pieces of the spanner nut being that they're threaded on the inside.  The hub may also be damaged.  The basket should not at any time be loose beneath the wash plate.

The basket hub is not repairable or sourced as a replacement part.  The basket has a lifetime warranty (limited, parts only, not service/labor) but good luck with that at this point in time if the hub is broken.

The balance ring is partially-filled with water to provide gyroscopic balancing during spin, which of course doesn't function if the ring is cracked and the water leaks out.


Post# 1190497 , Reply# 4   9/23/2023 at 09:16 (386 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Broken calypso, wash basket

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In addition to Glenn’s excellent advice, you need a new wash basket for this machine, I had a used calypso some years ago that had this failure, just like with front loading washers. It comes from bad washing procedures.

The Kenmore version that you have only had a 10 year basket warranty, so there’s no recourse or chance of getting a free wash basket

The whirlpool versions of this machine did have a lifetime warranty on the wash basket.

I have good used wash baskets for this machine if you want to try to repair the machine.

The old wash basket makes an excellent fire pit. It’s a very high-quality stainless steel. If you end up parting out the machine, in any case, the wash baskets no good anyway for a washing machine .

John


Post# 1190546 , Reply# 5   9/24/2023 at 08:47 (385 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Thank you both for the advice

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I am getting the spanner wrench today to dig further. Will post some pictures when I do. Might take your offer combo52 on the tub. Hoping thus is salvageable as I really enjoy the machine.

Post# 1190572 , Reply# 6   9/24/2023 at 17:07 (385 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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I think I have the digital copy of the repair manual

Where can I put it so everyone can look at it


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Post# 1190574 , Reply# 7   9/24/2023 at 17:19 (385 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        

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Hi bpetersxx, can you email it? My email address is visible in my profile.

Does the spanner but come off counter-clockwise on this one? The universal joint moves along with the nut when I have a go at it with the wrench & mallet.


Post# 1190645 , Reply# 8   9/25/2023 at 18:59 (384 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        
End of final spin fluff.

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I don't really understand why they decreased the fluff time from 30 seconds to 10 or 8 seconds on later models. When I do towels in mine, I usually put it in diagnostic mode and run a 300NPM dry nutation for 30 to 45 seconds.

Post# 1190670 , Reply# 9   9/26/2023 at 06:21 (384 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Calypso washer, final fluff up

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On the original calypsos and probably all of them there were problems with excessive wear on towels, etc.

I never even wash towels in mine because of this problem hi imagine the reduction in fluffing at the end was in attempt to reduce the wear on towels, they reprogram the machine in a number of ways to reduce the harshness on towels.

If you’re going to put the towels in the dryer, the fluffing doesn’t do a thing I can see where it might be useful if you line dry your towels to fluff them up good before they go on the line.

If I was going line dry towels, I’d still put them in the dryer and fluff them for five minutes or more .

John


Post# 1190673 , Reply# 10   9/26/2023 at 08:37 (383 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Stubborn spanner nut

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Is there a trick to getting off a stubborn spanner nut? I noticed the universal joint & item is threaded to both move. Therefore I cannot loosen the nut off. Been trying a penatrating oil, but still no luck.

Post# 1190675 , Reply# 11   9/26/2023 at 09:53 (383 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Removing calypso lock ring

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Hi Brian, it’s a standard thread, lefty Lucy righty tidy, the problem is without the basket attached there’s no inertia, and it will just keep turning. You may have to cut the ring off with a Dremel tool.

The lock ring is still available on eBay for between eight and $15, it may still be officially available from Whirlpool, but nobody on the East Coast is stocking it.

John.


Post# 1190685 , Reply# 12   9/26/2023 at 12:28 (383 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

Good luck with your repairs on this great machine. I have always thought that WP should have stayed with this design and worked all of the bugs out.

Post# 1190747 , Reply# 13   9/27/2023 at 11:13 (382 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Finally cut the spanner nut off

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For better or worse, I was able to cut the spanner nut off. Here is what I uncovered. Wondering what parts I may need.

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Post# 1190758 , Reply# 14   9/27/2023 at 15:07 (382 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Can't find part number

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This larger spanner nut that holds the inner tub on is so deteriorated, I cannot see the part number. Cannot seem to find it in the parts diagrams online either.

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Post# 1190761 , Reply# 15   9/27/2023 at 15:19 (382 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Your Pic #4 in Reply #13 shows that the hub is completely separated, missing from the basket ... so you need a basket for starters.

Your pic in Reply #14 isn't a spanner nut, it's part of the hub, broken off.  What's left of the hub is presumably still on the drive shaft after you removed the u-joint.

These are the only pics (with watermarks) I could find online of the basket hub, inside and bottomside of the basket.  I don't find any pics on my computer from when I refurbished my machine.


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Post# 1190763 , Reply# 16   9/27/2023 at 17:11 (382 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
This is what is still connected to the washer

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I'm assuming this is the part you're talking about?

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Post# 1190767 , Reply# 17   9/27/2023 at 18:52 (382 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Correct.  The basket hub is not a separate/replaceable component.  It's part/parcel of the basket, permanently factory-assembled to it.  The piece left there should lift off ... although it may be stuck (the spanner nut slightly compresses the splits of the hub neck to secure the basket-and-hub to the spin tube, see Page 37 Fig 3-15 of the service manual).

The hole in center bottom of the basket in your Pic 4, the hub should be affixed there, not removable.  Compare to the two pics of a replacement basket with the hub intact.


Post# 1190772 , Reply# 18   9/27/2023 at 20:58 (382 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Appreciate all the information

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I will attempt to remove those parts of the spindle. Hopefully Combo52 has the spare basket for me to use. I can order the other parts it looks like.

Post# 1190813 , Reply# 19   9/28/2023 at 18:12 (381 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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going to have too see what i have in the mystery Calypso box I have

Post# 1191587 , Reply# 20   10/9/2023 at 08:51 (370 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Wash basket & other parts.

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Just wanted to bump this & see if anyone has a wash basket available. I also need a balance ring. Thank you in advance.

Post# 1191601 , Reply# 21   10/9/2023 at 11:21 (370 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Calypso parts

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Hi Brian, I said I have everything you need for that machine. Send me a message if interested I’m not going to send you an engraved invitation, lol.

John


Post# 1191602 , Reply# 22   10/9/2023 at 11:25 (370 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
Good to hear

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I guess my message from here never made to you. I'll send another one now. My apologies. Thank you 😊


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