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Thread Number: 94894
/ Tag: Recipes, Cooking Accessories
Moffat Fiesta 24 cooker |
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Post# 1195293 , Reply# 1 12/13/2023 at 00:05 (360 days old) by Tomturbomatic  (Beltsville, MD) |
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Congratulations! What a treasure. Have fun with it. It's so exciting to cook on a new, or new to us, range. | ||
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Post# 1195294 , Reply# 2 12/13/2023 at 00:27 (360 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Quite deluxe too | ||
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Post# 1195299 , Reply# 4 12/13/2023 at 05:14 (360 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Very neat find in great condition
Post more pictures when you get a chance love to see the inside views of the ovens, etc..
Post a picture of where the warming element goes. It shouldn’t be too hard to find something that will work since other than being around 500 W shouldn’t be that critical, you could probably do with 300 to 500 W and it would still work well. Have fun with it, older ranges are actually quite practical things to collect. They can be used and they’re just as efficient as new ones for the most part maybe even more so in some cases. John | ||
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Post# 1195372 , Reply# 5 12/14/2023 at 13:54 (358 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Moffat
I have seen Moffat cookers in publications in the immediate pre and post WW2 publications. It is not clear to me where they might have been manufactured as the post war model looks decidedly old fashioned and like something from the 1930s.
Not much more is seen until the late 1950s when they start to appear in upmarket kitchens. These are generally 40 and 30 inch and are imports from Canada such as shown below. Note that the handles shown on the front of the 40inch cooker are for oven shelves which could be mechanically raised or lowered under the broiler | ||
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Post# 1195374 , Reply# 6 12/14/2023 at 13:57 (358 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Eye Level
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Post# 1195375 , Reply# 7 12/14/2023 at 14:06 (358 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Mid 1960s
By the mid 1960s the range was consolidated into 30 and 24" models. The split level unit was also widely seen in upmarket kitchens although there was competition in the split level units from Creda, Tricity, English Electric and Jackson (also a Canadian import). In the Luxury floor standing range market they were up against Creda and GEC and New World (gas). Although not shown here here there were also gas models in both the floor standing and built in ovens.
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Post# 1195377 , Reply# 8 12/14/2023 at 14:12 (358 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Moffat
The resemblance to the cooker shown in the opening post can be seen here although still of Canadian manufacture as can be seen by the element in the bottom of the oven - apologies for the quality of the pictures which were taken from an ebay listing
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Post# 1195378 , Reply# 9 12/14/2023 at 14:22 (358 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Moffat
Towards the end of the 1960s the Moffat brand had been absorbed into the Thorn group and manufacture began in the UK. The main difference was in the ovens which now had the customary elements mounted on the sides of the oven, behind the oven walls. The 30 inch model had now been dropped in favour of the 24 inch model and later an additional 21 inch model based on the Tricity range, also part of the Thorn group. As regards the built in model, it had a styling update but also the grill (broiler) was moved to the lower compartment which had previously been simply a warming drawer.
As far as I can recall Moffat was the only UK brand to have a Roastmeter facility, even with UK production | ||
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Post# 1195380 , Reply# 10 12/14/2023 at 14:37 (358 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Moffat
Now, back to the Moffat cooker in the original posting. This was the standard model, is approximately 50 years old. There was also a deluxe model, again with roastmeter.
From the specifications shown in the brochure below the warming drawer element is 400 watts . The advice from Fisherpaykel could be a good call although rather than domestic equipment suppliers, commercial catering suppliers might be better as they supply long elements for hot cupboards which can be bent into shape to suit the appliance they are to be fitted to. Suitable suppliers could be Commercial Catering Spares or First Choice Catering Spares. Hopefully you can see the brackets where the old element was attached to work out the length of the element required. You may need to get inventive about how this might be connected. This post was last edited 12/14/2023 at 17:23 | ||
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Post# 1195382 , Reply# 11 12/14/2023 at 14:55 (358 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Moffat
In the mid 70s the top compartment was changed to have a full thermostatic control and a white ceramic hob option on the de luxe model.
Sadly, by 1980 the market for that style of cooker had declined significantly and there was a Jackson/Creda model which offered similar facilities at lower cost and smaller footprint. The built in oven range also suffered as it was a non standard size (27 inch Vs 24 inch) which meant specific housings needed to be made, not easy for kitchen manufacturers who were beginning to struggle against foreign competition. And there was a great deal more competition from other oven and cooker suppliers - offering similar or better features for less money. Their last flourish was to offer a built in oven and hob with touch controls rather than rotary knobs but it was too little too late and the Moffat range was quietly discontinued | ||
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Post# 1195393 , Reply# 12 12/14/2023 at 18:13 (358 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC) |
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Thank you for that look at English "cookers!" Always wanted to know more about them! Greg | ||
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Post# 1195394 , Reply# 13 12/14/2023 at 18:37 (358 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan & Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 1195409 , Reply# 14 12/15/2023 at 00:06 (358 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Interesting stuff there Al. Being as Canadian stoves are essentially similar and sometimes downright copies of US stoves under license or something they could be exported to the UK under favorable or no customs exicse taxes etc unlike American made appliances. Never heard of the Jackson company you mentioned. And doing a little googling I'm guessing the overseas appliance name was just sold off to Thorne without any appliances. Litton seemed to be involved with them somewhere in the 70s and then the whole Camco - GE-GSW, Moffat collaboration. Moffat named stoves are still sold I believe but they are just kind of run of the mill, nothing fancy 4 burner stoves, almost builders grade stuff it looks like. The halcyon days gone where you got timers, probes, special features and lights etc. PS.. now I remember in the 70s 80s Moffatt microwaves were Litton clones and were labeled Litton/Moffat. Had the on upper ovens as well iirc.
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Post# 1195634 , Reply# 16 12/19/2023 at 08:43 (353 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Painting
I have had success with a car body shop in getting washing machines repainted but it might not work so well with an appliance which may get quite hot. With Christmas coming next week you may get a chance to give the oven a good work out and test how hot the side panels get - an infra red thermometer would be ideal to test this. You would not want to get them painted and then find the paint finish bubbles or gets tacky so check the paint finish will withstand the temperature first.
If the panels are not rusty it might be worth giving them a really good clean and then try going over then with a product called Autosol, easily available from Halfords. This is very slightly abrasive (its a metal polish) so try it in an inconspicious corner. I dont think it is as powerful as T-Cut but go lightly with it as it is abrasive | ||
| Post# 1196544 , Reply# 17 1/5/2024 at 06:36 (336 days old) by Luke83g (Garstang) | ||
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Wel I’ve been using this for the last month and it’s been great! I have however managed to find my dream Tricity cooker locally so this will be put into storage. If any members are interested in taking this on now that it’s fully working (excluding the warming tray) please get in touch. | ||
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Post# 1196553 , Reply# 18 1/5/2024 at 10:49 (336 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Tricity | ||
| Post# 1207267 , Reply# 21 6/10/2024 at 11:46 by DorothyG (Reading, Berkshire) | ||
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Re message above Oops! The part number was Tricity Bendix B129 | ||
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Post# 1207355 , Reply# 22 6/12/2024 at 04:53 by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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| Post# 1207356 , Reply# 23 6/12/2024 at 06:48 by DorothyG (Reading, Berkshire) | ||
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Reply to vacbear58 Thank you, I’m most grateful :) | ||
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