Thread Number: 96576  /  Tag: Ranges, Stoves, Ovens
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Post# 1213199   8/27/2024 at 11:51 by Snail (Granite Falls, Washington)        

I now have 3 stoves!! Lol but this is the one I am going to use in my kitchen I've decided. I have another 54 hotpoint that is a cheaper model. I plan to use the oven and doors from the other one because the condition is so much better. I have the golden griddle!! I think that makes up for the lack of the second 8" burner. I do have the center of the knob it's just soaking in vinegar. I'm going to replate it with brass as it was originally


As you can see the deep fry attachment belongs to a GE model but I can make it work by moving the socket up 1.5" I will hide my modification with an aluminum panel.

Anybody have a good idea on how to repaint the white on the pushbutton? I can feel that the letters are recessed so I was thinking of putting some kind of clay or something in there and then painting it. I'm open to suggestions.

I plan to disassemble the clock, timer, burner controller, push button assemblies clean + lubricate them. Hoping that's all she needs. I'm excited to see all the lights.


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Post# 1213202 , Reply# 1   8/27/2024 at 13:06 by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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Is that a '57 Fairlane in pix 1?

Post# 1213206 , Reply# 2   8/27/2024 at 15:01 by Snail (Granite Falls, Washington)        
Ford thunderbird

 It's my 57 ford thunderbird. Kinda in the way of my picture lol.

Post# 1213207 , Reply# 3   8/27/2024 at 15:02 by delco1946 (Oregon)        
Don't waste your time!

 That's an H3 telechron clock motor - don't waste your valuable time tinkering with it. I trade all mine in to a guy in Hillsboro, OR who seems to be the nations/worlds preeminent repairer!

With trade in he'll charge you 39.95 plus 6.95 shipping and gives you a 5 year warranty. I've traded in two clock motors and they work beautifully :)


CLICK HERE TO GO TO delco1946's LINK
Post# 1213213 , Reply# 4   8/27/2024 at 19:15 by Snail (Granite Falls, Washington)        
Clock rotor

 I've had pretty good luck in the past filling them with zoom spout turbine oil. If it's frozen I'll take you up on your suggestion though! I used the vacuum chamber at work to draw the oil into it via the pinion gear. I will take the gear train out, clean each gear etc and re-lube it with standard clock oil. All functions seem to move but some of its a little stiff.

I have no idea what's inside the timer can or the large burner controller. It will be fun to take it apart and see how it works.

Post# 1213224 , Reply# 5   8/27/2024 at 20:33 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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OT from the range:  In what file format did you upload the images and with what device (computer or other)?  They're huge.  The board software normally resizes images to maximum of 900px on the largest dimension but I've noticed a few past instances when it didn't.

Post# 1213245 , Reply# 6   8/28/2024 at 07:28 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1954 39 inch Highpoint range

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Very cool stove Tom looks like it will clean up and should work well, the push button switches for the burners. I’ve usually had good luck just with cleaning and spraying a good silicone lubricant into the switches. I’ve never tried to disassemble them. You might be able to, but they’re really not meant to be taken apart, but anything is possible if you put your mind to it.

That controller for the right front burner is very unique thing. It was an early motor driven type of infinite switch that pulsed the power on and off to the burner gave you more settings than just five settings of the other burners , there were a couple of manufacturers that did this with a motor driven one but they quickly figured out how to make a simpler infinite control that Everybody has pretty much used the last 75 plus years.

I think I have an extra Highpoint deep fryer unit if you just wanna trade for the GE one so you don’t have to cut up the control panel that would be a shame on such a nice range. Otherwise get in touch if you’re interested in swapping.

Thanks for the link Christopher about the guy that rebuilds these Clock motors. That’s really good information to have. It’s becoming harder and harder to get these old mechanical things fixed

John.

Post# 1213252 , Reply# 7   8/28/2024 at 09:46 by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)        

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It's a beauty!
Enjoy!

Post# 1213353 , Reply# 8   8/29/2024 at 12:12 by Snail (Granite Falls, Washington)        

I'm excited to get to work on this! Hopefully I can get the burner controller to work as originally designed. I suppose I could always swap in a modern controller if not. John, I sent you an email about trading!

I will update this thread as I move forward with this project.

Post# 1213362 , Reply# 9   8/29/2024 at 14:06 by qsd-dan (West)        

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An elegant piece of yesteryear built like a brick ****house.

Best of all, no crappy Chinese control boards will render it into scrap metal.

Post# 1213839 , Reply# 10   9/4/2024 at 17:39 by Snail (Granite Falls, Washington)        
Updated progress

 I tore myself away from the cabinetry/ ventahood project to start on the stove. I started with the clock. The good news is I didn't break anything. Unfortunately due to a stripped gear the clock is toast. I have a parts stove from the same year. It has the exact same clock in it so I'm hoping that the movement in that unit is in better shape. I was able to disassemble the timer motor. An interesting little device. Its a can that comes in half then the caps pop off and there is a gear train in there. It's riveted together and looks almost like a pocket watch movement. I think a dunk in the ultrasonic cleaner and some novistar clock oil will keep the timer in good shape.

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Post# 1214178 , Reply# 11   9/9/2024 at 02:01 by Snail (Granite Falls, Washington)        
More progress, more setbacks

 Well, I started cranking on the stove again. The timer and clock are my main focus right now because I feel that these parts are the most challenging to get working.

Both clock and timer are broken!

Timer: made by lux. I realized the hand would not move when testing. I disassembled it which was a bit tricky but not impossible. I found that the splines between the pot metal gear and the silver shaft had stripped allowing the parts to move independently. I brought it to a clock shop but they were unwilling to help me. Seeing as I had nothing to lose I ground off the heads of the rivets and gently pried the movement apart. Astonishingly I didn't break it. My plan is to place a pin between the moving parts thereby locking them together. If I can drill and tap the heads of the rivets, Clean lubricate and re-assemble it I think I'll be good for another 50 years. I tested the motor and it's good.

Clock: stripped gear on the original. The clock on my other stove which i am now using for parts was still good aside from the clutch spring which had popped loose. I managed to peen the metal back over. I will glue it to hold it more securely. The spring had popped loose on the other one too which leads me to believe it's a common failure. I think it ends up rotating and wearing away the metal lip holding it in place.

I got the parts stove back out of storage. My plan is to actually use the parts stove and simply swap the entire top panel from the new one onto to the parts one. It's in far better condition. The only difference is the chrome door handles but it doesn't bother me. I'm lucky they are both the same year! Just different models.

Post# 1214918 , Reply# 12   9/16/2024 at 13:46 by Snail (Granite Falls, Washington)        

Update: clock is now functional! The timer still needs help but the machinist at my work helped me with a couple operations so I should be able to re-assemble it soon.


The broken clutch I peened the pot metal back over with the point of a dart. I then jb welded a small washer over it to keep it from rotating and wearing away the metal lip.

Lubricated it with novostar clock oil. Lubed the rotor with zoom spout turbine oil.

Cleaned electrical contacts with a Dremmel tool and wire wheel.
It is now a combination of parts from two clocks. The original had a damaged gear.

The relationship between the two gears on the front is critical for the auto timer feature to work as designed. I had to play around with it until it tripped at the set time.

Been working 24 hours and is totally silent.

I need to re-do the hour hand but I'm gonna get everything functional first.


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Post# 1215481 , Reply# 13   9/23/2024 at 15:22 by Snail (Granite Falls, Washington)        
Got the timer working!

 The machinist at work helped me drill and tap the posts on the movement so I could put this back together after my repair.

I originally wanted to place a pin to hold the gear from moving on the shaft but the shaft was wider than I thought and it didn't work out. I ended up cleaning it well and using locktite to hold it on its tapered shaft. It sounds hokey but it's quite strong. I additionally used super glue between the gear and the flange it rests against. My theory is that this part was not properly pressed on at the lux clock factory allowing it to slip off its tapered shaft and become loose. The failure resulted in the timer running without moving the clock hands.

I attached photos as I put it together so folks in the future can see how these lux movements come apart/ go together.

The back part of thr movement must be placed on the middle brass plate before it's pressed onto the housing.

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Post# 1215485 , Reply# 14   9/23/2024 at 17:50 by appnut (TX)        

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Congratulations Tom on getting the timer working.

Post# 1215504 , Reply# 15   9/23/2024 at 21:47 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Got the timer running again

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Tom, that is amazing. It’s so cool to see somebody take the trouble to figure out how to fix something that almost nobody can fix anymore.

This is one of the best fixes I’ve seen this year so far when it comes to restoring neat older appliances.



It will be interesting to see what other neat repairs you can do on this and other appliances.

John


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