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Thread Number: 96959
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Inglis TO-41001 Commercial Belt Drive Rebuild -A few questions- |
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Post# 1217496 , Reply# 1 10/28/2024 at 06:39 (196 days old) by Combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Last of the whirlpool commercial belt drive washers
Hi Landon, this is a great machine to fix up. It’s a little better built than the normal home models. It has a better porcelain finish on both the inner wash basket and the outer tub.
It should be an easy build. The parts are all the same as the normal home models both assembled in Canada and the US, the one thing I notice is the rear transmission brace is missing on your washer. This is very important for smooth spinning performance with an out balance, there’s two other races that might be missing as well. But you’re correct it needs to be pulled completely apart seals and other parts replaced that are worn or damaged and it should work for a long time, I still know of two of these machines that are in commercial use in DC . John | ||
| Post# 1217514 , Reply# 2 10/28/2024 at 10:32 (196 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1217519 , Reply# 4 10/28/2024 at 11:43 (196 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Landon, I don't have anything to contribute to the needed discussion at hand but a reflection. In late 1974/frist half of 1975 I lived in a small apartment complex in Austin TX. Friends lived in a similar complex that aws brand new and the washers in their laundry room were exactly like this. Bring back fondd memories.
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| Post# 1217520 , Reply# 5 10/28/2024 at 12:12 (196 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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There are manuals available for download in the manuals and literature section on this site. I should have spare braces if you can’t find any. Here are a couple good threads from the archives.
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| Post# 1217531 , Reply# 8 10/28/2024 at 14:22 (196 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1217538 , Reply# 9 10/28/2024 at 16:01 (196 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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| Post# 1217557 , Reply# 12 10/28/2024 at 18:50 (196 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1217635 , Reply# 15 10/29/2024 at 23:30 (194 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1217775 , Reply# 19 11/1/2024 at 07:18 (192 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Yay, I’m glad it’s coming apart easily
It’s super simple to loosen the basket just stand in the basket and rock your weight from side to side once or twice the basket will be loose at this point.
All whirlpool belt drive machines from about 1965 through 70. Used a mercury lid switch. The switch itself was very durable the little spring clip bracket that holds it with sometimes rust and break or get this lodged. Other than that they were no problems with these, of course they wouldn’t use mercury in an appliance anymore, so I don’t know if that was part of the thinking of getting rid of them. If you need transmission braces, I have plenty of them. I could send you when you get to doing the final rebuilding. John | ||
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Post# 1217784 , Reply# 20 11/1/2024 at 09:33 (192 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1217817 , Reply# 24 11/1/2024 at 23:30 (191 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1217821 , Reply# 26 11/2/2024 at 05:59 (191 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1217826 , Reply# 27 11/2/2024 at 13:53 (191 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Commercial belt drive washer rebuild
Yay glad you got it apart, I’ve never had standing in the basket not work in 30 seconds you simply shift your entire weight from one side to the other about once or twice and it comes loose and I only weigh 150 pounds.
I would clean up the rusty center post unless it’s nearly rusted through I like to get a thin stainless steel sleeve and sleeve the outside of it. It’s much easier than replacing the center post and then you don’t have any risk of having a misaligned center post if it’s off just slightly from the base plate the machine won’t spin properly other people have done this, and had problems with misalignment. That blue water pump is an aftermarket pump that was made in Israel. They were junk. I would look for a real pump. We bought some of those and they didn’t last worth a damn. You definitely need a new agitator shaft. The transmission may be damaged as well. I normally throw out ones that have water in them because I have so many that never had water in them and start with a better one, it appears all three transmission braces are missing and that really causes problems, it’ll cause the machine to walk and vibrate more and put a lot of stress on the center post and bearings, etc. to be run without the transmission braces. John | ||
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Post# 1217833 , Reply# 28 11/2/2024 at 18:38 (191 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada) |
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Totally Enjoying | ||
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Post# 1217933 , Reply# 30 11/4/2024 at 20:55 (189 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Commercial whirlpool belt drive rebuild
It’s normal to have a lot of side to side play in the agitator shaft when the transmission is out of the washer.
It’s too bad. You’re not closer we still recycle belt drive machines that have good transmissions, and there are more new agitator shafts here in the states than will ever be used. We have saved a lot of transmissions out of machines we junked, As long as they were made after 1964 when they beefed up the gears, etc., and they didn’t have water in them. You never really see a serious problem with them. The blue aftermarket pumps showed up around the time Whirlpool stopped making them maybe 15 years ago, I wouldn’t worry about it just get a genuine one to have on hand at some point the pump may work fine till then, a water pump is not gonna bring the machine down. John | ||
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Post# 1217961 , Reply# 32 11/5/2024 at 11:37 (188 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Post# 1218085 , Reply# 36 11/7/2024 at 05:35 (186 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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It’s coming back together
I think you’ll get this machine back in perfect operating order, email me a list of parts you need and we’ll figure out how to send them too bad it’s so hard to send large parts. I have extra base plates for these Machines.
I’ve not tried using RTV sealant for a gasket on a belt drive Transmission, but I don’t think it should be any problem to do so. Often we were able to use the old gasket again, except in cases where the transmission really needed a total cleaning as yours did. Galvanized tubing should work well for the center post when we use stainless steel we tack welded it top and bottom, but I don’t see any reason you couldn’t use a really good epoxy glue or marine sealant. Just glue it in place. When I used stainless steel thin wall tubing, I was able to get the rubber center gasket from the outer tub over it however, you can actually assemble these machines without using that gasket at all if you just use a lot of marine sealant between the rusted tub and the center post. or you can modify the fit of a new rubber center post seal if you need to and want to. John | ||
| Post# 1218459 , Reply# 39 11/14/2024 at 00:36 by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) | ||
I hope you took a picture of the intact transmission | ||
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Post# 1218524 , Reply# 41 11/15/2024 at 05:51 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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That base plate is looking great
Hi Landon, your efforts so far approved that you can restore almost anything that one puts their minds to. Take some close-up pictures if you can of how that face plate center post is restored. I think you're onto a really great way of doing this more easily than welding the material around the base plate that we did.
It was a pleasure talking to you the other day. It's always fun to interact with somebody with such great abilities, hopefully this weekend we will get a chance to put together a box of parts for this project to ship to you once you get the pieces you need this project won't take very long. I'm hoping this weekend to try to sort out the area where all the belt drive whirlpool laundry parts have been piled, my young friends Chris and Tate are going to be here this weekend and they can help organize and sort the parts. There are still nearly a dozen belt drive whirlpool washers around here that I need to get rebuilt both for myself and a few others. John | ||
| Post# 1218890 , Reply# 45 11/19/2024 at 23:35 by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1218899 , Reply# 46 11/20/2024 at 06:10 by gizmo (Victoria, Australia) |
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Beautiful work. Thanks for showing, and thanks to all who are helping you. | ||
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Post# 1219354 , Reply# 50 11/26/2024 at 05:28 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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It's looking really good
This machine will be in close to new operating condition when you're done.
I rounded up most of the parts you need yesterday new agitator shaft spin tube transmission gasket. Don't remember what else at the moment. Will try to get the stuff boxed up over this holiday weekend, we've been really busy at work always gets extremely busy around the holidays ovens and dishwashers seem to miraculously break right before Thanksgiving, lol John | ||
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Post# 1221465 , Reply# 53 12/31/2024 at 07:05 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Yay glad you got all the parts
Hi Landon I threw in a clutch pulley bearing if it's not badly worn you don't really need to change it. You have to press it out of the pulley, if you press the bearing out of the pulley, you'll notice there's a groove behind the bearing cut into the cast-iron pulley, you put grease in that groove which can soak into the oil light bearing to keep that clutch pulley bearing lubricated.
That piece of felt that goes on top of the pulley was actually to try to keep oil from migrating out of the bearing and getting on the clutch pads. The clutch pads are supposed to run dry and if they get too oily, they would slip, if that felt pad seems too oily. You might try to de-oil it or grease it a little bit, Will all be excited to see you get the machine running happy New Year's. Keep us posted. John L | ||
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Post# 1222229 , Reply# 56 1/14/2025 at 06:13 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Whirlpool belt drive washer, mechanical restoration
Looking good you're well on your way to a sturdy great functioning washing machine.
The grease you have is fine for the T bearing, it's obviously not a very critical part and I've never seen a lubrication failure on a T bearing less water has been going through the Bearings. The T bearing is really a spacer and a support to support the basket drive assembly.that allows the shafts to turn independently, but there's not a lot of movement against it, which is why they found they could make it out of plastic and it never failed. Hi Landon looks like a good winter project. I've been hanging out in the basement. Rebuilding a 1968 versa Tronic GE range. I will post pictures soon. It's nearly done. John | ||
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Post# 1222280 , Reply# 57 1/15/2025 at 07:33 by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Landon You have the touch ! When you love a machine it doesnt' matter how far it's gone, determination and desire will restore anything in time !
But I am glad you have John for this project he's the expert on belt drives and He will get you through this. They're his secret passion!
I love the gun metal gray tub never seen that and the tranny has the 1950s pulley with spokes SO COOL ! | ||
| Post# 1227456 , Reply# 59 3/27/2025 at 17:17 by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1227459 , Reply# 60 3/27/2025 at 17:32 by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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