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This must have been the inspiration for WPs current third racks
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Post# 1224013   2/10/2025 at 00:12 by michaelz08 (Elmhurst, IL)        

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I’m not even sure how I ended up on this, but I found a circa 2005 Maytag Dishwasher Brochure. I’d never heard of American dishwashers having third racks prior to the late 2010s, and never heard of ANY dishwasher having a rack setup like this!

That crazy setup immediately made me thing of the current top-end rack setup WP is using in all their brands. Surely this inspired it, especially since Maytag is a subsidiary and any patents they filed on this unique setup would be owned by them.

This also is the only dishwasher I’ve ever seen with 4 distinct wash arms as well. I don’t know anything about the quality at the end of Maytag’s run as an independent company, but I have to imagine these cleaned well.

Some model numbers for reference: mdb9601aw, mdb9750aw, MDB8600AW


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Post# 1224020 , Reply# 1   2/10/2025 at 02:55 by appnut (TX)        

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These were not on the market for very long and from what I remember, only the 2 top of the line models were this specific arrangement.

Post# 1224030 , Reply# 2   2/10/2025 at 09:40 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I remember seeing them.


Post# 1224031 , Reply# 3   2/10/2025 at 09:45 by peteski50 (New York)        
Maytag!

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I remember these not very coinvent for loading tall items!


Post# 1224035 , Reply# 4   2/10/2025 at 10:53 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas))        
Maytag Dishwashers

Perhaps they brought them back through Whirlpool.

Post# 1224037 , Reply# 5   2/10/2025 at 11:31 by qsd-dan (West)        

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"I remember these not very convenient for loading tall items!"

The upper rack was removable so very tall items could be placed in the middle rack at the inconvenience of a missing rack and dish space.

It appears like a good idea but knowing the control board issues Maytag was having at the time, it probably suffered from those. I think they were also having premature rust issues with the racks, something that a lot of manufactures were suffering with as well.


Post# 1224041 , Reply# 6   2/10/2025 at 12:52 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Perhaps they brought them back through Whirlpool.
Jerome, this is a completely different 3rd-rack location and function than the current design.  It has a dedicated spray arm beneath.  Do any upper 3rd racks currently have a separate spray arm beneath?  They're primarily for flatware, cooking utensils, and small items.

Maytag did the 3rd lower rack for cookware near/at the end of their time before sale to Whirlpool.  The brochure linked above is dated 2006.

Didn't some other manufacturers have a 3rd upper rack before Whirlpool added it to any of their brands?


Post# 1224044 , Reply# 7   2/10/2025 at 13:31 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Before Miele introduced the cutlery rack there was a professional Miele dishwasher with three full racks. Some Italian brands had three full drawers in their dishwashers. IIRC those were 60’s models. These Italian dishwashers were taller than usual.

Post# 1224045 , Reply# 8   2/10/2025 at 13:34 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas))        
whirlpool wash system

I'm wondering if Whirlpool has updated their wash system on their own models for the 3rd rack with extra wash action since I don't see global wash anymore.
What did they do to them? They could've put the self cleaning micro clean filtration in their own dishwashers.


Post# 1224054 , Reply# 9   2/10/2025 at 16:46 by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)        

The steam clean dishwasher!! These Maytags were so slept on. I remember these from way back when. I’m not sure if Maytag authentic came up with these third rack for these or if it was after 2006 when whirlpool took over Maytag.whirlpool continued Maytags steam clean tall tub design for a couple years and they began making Maytag dishwashers are whirlpool point voyagers, by the way who came up with that name? It’s ridiculous sounding. This series was Maytags first tall tub dishwasher, my grandparents ordered a whole new applaince set in 2003 and the dishwasher was the new tall tub Maytag in all stainless inside and out it was a gorgeous machine and cleaned extremely well, self cleaning module too. And they had a nice big roof arm giving extremely good coverage of the upper rack tops of dishware.

It was a really good improvement from the previous Maytag dishwashers that had no upper rack spray arm and is still my favorite.


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Post# 1224066 , Reply# 10   2/10/2025 at 18:05 by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)        

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I absolutely love that layout. I’d need more room for cups, but it makes a lot of sense!

Post# 1224072 , Reply# 11   2/10/2025 at 18:56 by Magic_Clean (Florida)        
The Maytag

being discussed was designed and manufactured at Maytag's Jackson TN factory. No relationship to Whirlpool's dishwashers coming out of Findlay Ohio.

It wasn't too long after the '06 Whirlpool-Maytag integration that the Jackson Maytag dishwashers were retired in favor of the Whirlpool Point Voyager platform.

-LP


Post# 1224105 , Reply# 12   2/11/2025 at 07:50 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas))        
wash action

I have to question the wash action, knowing there's a good chance that water will never get to the necessary racks to get all the dishes clean. If it does, it would take 3-4 hours due to that stupid puny pump that can't handle heavy soils. If this were a power clean, it would be a different story.

Post# 1224119 , Reply# 13   2/11/2025 at 10:42 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Real Maytag three rack dishwashers

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These were a Maytag design that they came out with. They also had it with a stainless steel tank. We still have customers with these dishwashers.

Overall, they worked OK they had a lot of weak points. I liked working on them. They were easy to access and work on compared to some other tall tub machines.

I guess this would be the first true three rack dishwasher, the dumb thing was that the most powerful wash arm the bottom one was only used for a couple flat items so it really didn't have the cleaning power that the current KitchenAid and Maytag and whirlpool three rack dishwashers have.

When whirlpool bought Maytag in 2006 they announced that they were going to keep this plant in Tennessee because it was an all new plant and it was very modern whirl pool. Continued to build dishwashers there for about two years, but they realized there were just too many problems with the design and consolidated all dishwasher building to Findlay, Ohio, and went to the better whirlpool designs, and that was the end of this dishwasher.

I guess that makes this a collectible model.

John L


Post# 1224127 , Reply# 14   2/11/2025 at 11:52 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas))        
maytag point voyager

I thought Maytag came out with the point voyager design in 2010 or late 2009.

Post# 1224228 , Reply# 15   2/12/2025 at 11:00 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Whirlpool came out with a point Voyager dishwashers

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Around 2001 they were sold under the whirlpool name generally with plastic tubs in the KitchenAid name with stainless steel tubs.

After whirlpool bought Maytag in 2006 Maytag dishwashers soon appeared using the point Voyager platform, but Maytag had nothing to do with engineering or developing the whirlpool point Voyager dishwashers.

John L


Post# 1224241 , Reply# 16   2/12/2025 at 14:54 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas))        
kenmore version

I remember getting the Kenmore version in 2004. I thought these came out in the year 2000.

Post# 1224250 , Reply# 17   2/12/2025 at 16:13 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Came across this video. It’s a taller 3 rack Candy dishwasher from 1978.




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Post# 1224258 , Reply# 18   2/12/2025 at 17:41 by appnut (TX)        

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Very interesting!!!!

Post# 1224275 , Reply# 19   2/12/2025 at 22:25 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas))        
I have never seen

a 3rd rack dishwasher from the 70s or 80s before. I thought this was a feature from the 2000s.

Post# 1224287 , Reply# 20   2/13/2025 at 04:32 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Here’s a good picture of a Candy three rack dishwasher.

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Post# 1224288 , Reply# 21   2/13/2025 at 04:34 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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A Miele dishwasher with three racks from the 70’s. IIRC you could have other racks if it had to be used for other purposes than washing cups and saucers.

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