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Thread Number: 97562
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Should I buy the Miele WXI860 over the WXF660 for its shorter cycle times? |
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Post# 1224618 , Reply# 3 2/17/2025 at 13:27 by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"...I guess from my perspective, 1 hour, let alone 2, is just too much..."
That just do be way things are nowadays. Historically European h-axis washing machines for domestic use took ages to do a Normal/Cottons/Linens wash, but those times have only grown in response to energy saving and other mandates. Yes, there are various offerings of "quick" programs, but these are almost always for less than full capacity loads that may be only lightly soiled. If rapid cycle times are very important to you look at Speed Queen front loaders. There like Dexter washers in laundromats you'll see "Normal" cycles of < 30 mins or so. You won't have all the bells and whistles of a Miele but there you are then. | ||
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Post# 1224742 , Reply# 4 2/18/2025 at 20:31 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 1224813 , Reply# 6 2/19/2025 at 14:38 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Besides surfactants key thing to laundry often comes down to pH of substances used.
Alkaline substances (ammonia, washing soda, soda ash, sodium metasilicate, sodium hydroxide, sodium phosphates, borax and so forth) all bring various properties to wash day. Chief among them are ability to saponify fats, grease and oils, cause fibers of natural textiles such as cotton and linen to expand which aids in removal of soils and so it goes. Commercial/industrial laundries by and large use high temperatures and pH (alkaline)to remove soils and certain marks. For ages laundries in UK and elsewhere in Europe got blood out of hospital laundry using nothing more than soap, perborate and sodium metasilicate along with near or at boil wash temps. If those substances sound familiar they made up original Persil formula. Get it? PER - SIL. Generally top loading washing machines with central beaters of any sort are far more aggressive on laundry than h-axis types. This has been known for ages ever since early washing machines (semi-automatic, fully automatic, manually powered, steam powered...) arrived on scene. That being said some h-axis washing machines are more aggressive than others. True industrial/commercial h-axis/front loading washers have ribs inside tub that are about 1" to 2" deep (more or less). For a properly loaded cottons/linens/normal cycle one can see (and often feel) laundry being lifted and slapped down from 11 o'clock to 4 o'clock positions. This more aggressive mechanical action coupled with other variables such as water temperature and chemicals are reasons why commercial front loaders can complete a cycle in 30 minutes or so and achieve a good wash. Such machines often have full or partial programmability allowing for drum rhythms and water levels to suit material being laundered. Some complain that even laundromat front loaders are too aggressive on their washing. | ||
| Post# 1224833 , Reply# 8 2/19/2025 at 17:56 by me (Essex, UK) | ||
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typo eco 60C cotton should have been 3 h 05' with extra rinse. | ||
| Post# 1225559 , Reply# 12 2/28/2025 at 10:00 by Stephen (Palm Springs CA USA) | ||
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QIW On the US model- no SHORT button. And no Water Plus. Used to be able to select WP on certain cycles (not QIW) in the app but no longer. And the clothes do take twice as long to dry in the dryer. So that offsets the time saved using the cycle. In my experience. | ||
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