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Thread Number: 97653
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
New Miele W2 Nova Edition on Miele Swiss website |
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| Post# 1225715 3/2/2025 at 17:56 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
The Swiss have gone live with the new Miele W2 laundry range
www.miele.ch/de/category/... www.miele.ch/de/category/1015698... | ||
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| Post# 1225743 , Reply# 1 3/3/2025 at 00:40 by wholelottared (Turkey) | ||
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videos when will we get full cycle / wash videos from these machines, i'm really curious about their new drum design and how they handle it with various different type of loads | ||
Post# 1225747 , Reply# 2 3/3/2025 at 01:13 by Logixx  (Germany) |
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There were videos of the dryer online from someone who got a dryer to test it out... but Miele probably had them taken down from YouTube.
The wash action on small loads is similar to LG's swing(?) motion, as in the clothes are tossed from side to side. Large loads are tumbled as any other washer does. | ||
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Post# 1225761 , Reply# 4 3/3/2025 at 13:36 by Logixx (Germany) |
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On YouTube, the deeper models has a deeper drum as well. Although the execution seems rather cheap, not adding honeycombs or holes to the extended section. Maybe it's been changed?
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Post# 1225773 , Reply# 5 3/3/2025 at 16:25 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas)) |
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standard cycle I'm curious about how the standard cottons cycle will handle everyday loads. | ||
| Post# 1225793 , Reply# 6 3/3/2025 at 20:51 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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WQ1200 drum
I found out that the drum in the WQ1200 is 73 litres. The WQ1000 is 65 litres as per the current honeycomb 9 kg drum.
If you use the same litres/kg ratio, it could hold up to 10 kg. Maybe the deeper drum shown at IFA wasn't the final production run. The models are listed on Miele spare parts portal www4.miele.de/msd/MSD#/start...
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Post# 1225814 , Reply# 8 3/4/2025 at 06:53 by Logixx (Germany) |
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So, A-20% is their highest efficiency? Seems interesting, since other brands are up to 50% more efficient (or even better, maybe). Then again, savings are rather small, given how little energy these machines use on Eco.
The Miele user manual page already lists a TQ 1400 WP C Nova Edition, but I couldn't find anything about it yet. | ||
| Post# 1225869 , Reply# 10 3/4/2025 at 21:04 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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Can you share where you got the info from?
Hi henene4,
I'm in a group on FB called Miele Welt. The person was going to ask someone at Miele about it. I haven't heard back, but as you mentioned, it does make sense with more room for the laundry to move around. Miele launched a 10 kg W1 for the Italian market but still uses the 65-liter drum. www.miele.it/product/1258... I have a W1 9 kg and 7 kg load, which I find I can fit in without squeezing it in hard.
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Post# 1226625 , Reply# 11 3/16/2025 at 13:34 by Logixx (Germany) |
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English manuals W2 and T2 | ||
| Post# 1226728 , Reply# 14 3/17/2025 at 20:14 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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3.5 hours drying time
Yeah, that doesn't seem great, but I've never put that much in my dryer. The largest load would have been 7 kg. When I wash towels now, I use the Cottons Eco 60, which does a much longer 1600 rpm spin. The load in the T1 EcoSpeed dryer is 1 hour 51 minutes.
It would be interesting to see how much time is saved with the PowerDry option. | ||
| Post# 1226745 , Reply# 16 3/18/2025 at 01:17 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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New feature videos W2 washing machine
Scroll down the page and you can see videos on
InfinityCare drum QuickPowerWash SmartMatic TwinDos CLICK HERE TO GO TO mielerod69's LINK | ||
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Post# 1226760 , Reply# 18 3/18/2025 at 08:44 by logixx (Germany) |
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There are a few brands that have bought these seals of approval for their appliances.
integrative-hygiene.de/en/produc... www.miele.com/media/ex/co... | ||
| Post# 1226889 , Reply# 19 3/20/2025 at 14:12 by MRLAUNDRY1011 (South Wales, UK) | ||
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Top energy efficiency New model with A -40% called the EnergyHero. Retailing for £1299 but on outlet for £870 already | ||
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Post# 1227402 , Reply# 20 3/27/2025 at 02:43 by Logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 1227418 , Reply# 22 3/27/2025 at 08:48 by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 1227433 , Reply# 23 3/27/2025 at 12:11 by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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You're absolutely right - totally missed how it's a wide angle spray kind of like the last gen Panasonic machines... | ||
| Post# 1227761 , Reply# 24 3/31/2025 at 17:15 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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First videos | ||
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Post# 1227762 , Reply# 25 3/31/2025 at 17:22 by Logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 1227765 , Reply# 26 3/31/2025 at 17:34 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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New wash action of the new W2 | ||
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Post# 1227910 , Reply# 29 4/3/2025 at 08:06 by logixx (Germany) |
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So, what do we think of the wash action after the two videos were posted? Seems like - with small loads - the load is "massaged" by the drum, flipped over and then massaged again. Kinda like on a washboard. Of course, these were only very short clips.
It'll be interesting to see how the drum gets the clothes to distribute when a small load is washed. It can't just launch into spin. I'm also guessing oversudsing is a no-no because the clothes will just slip even more. | ||
| Post# 1227960 , Reply# 32 4/3/2025 at 19:00 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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Miele has also ditched the second heater
I downloaded the brochure, and only the bigfoot model has one heater, while the other two models can be connected to 400V, so I'm assuming they would have two heating elements.
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Post# 1228143 , Reply# 37 4/6/2025 at 08:20 by Logixx (Germany) |
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There are now videos of the washer on Facebook. With a full load, it looks like any other washing machine.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Logixx's LINK | ||
| Post# 1228208 , Reply# 38 4/6/2025 at 21:05 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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max wash time
I think this is a great idea, especially since wash times have become absurdly long.
Some machines now claim to have a 14kg capacity with only an 83-litre drum, which results in a 6:1 capacity-to-drum ratio. In the past, the kg capacity was calculated based on a 10:1 ratio—every 10 litres of drum space could handle 1kg of dry laundry. It seems that the ideal ratio is closer to 8:1. For example, Miele recently launched an A-40% model with a 65-litre drum, reducing the capacity from 9kg to 8kg. In my experience, the most I've ever put in my 9kg Miele is 7kg, and that was a full load. I hope this approach becomes part of the AU standard, especially considering some wash cycles can last over 5 hours! CLICK HERE TO GO TO mielerod69's LINK | ||
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Post# 1228216 , Reply# 39 4/6/2025 at 23:14 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 1228795 , Reply# 41 4/14/2025 at 12:24 by Logixx (Germany) |
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He also has both the washer and dryer | ||
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Post# 1228797 , Reply# 42 4/14/2025 at 12:27 by Logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 1228815 , Reply# 44 4/14/2025 at 14:59 by Logixx (Germany) |
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My 2 Cents | ||
| Post# 1228837 , Reply# 45 4/14/2025 at 18:49 by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
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New QPW cycle
Here are some of my observations.
"You can select Eco and a pre-wash on QPW now, but no extra rinses!?". If you select the Allergy option, this will add an extra rinse. The video shows that the program duration is 55 minutes rather than 49 minutes. The Allergy function replaces Water Plus. "Washing is surprisingly good. The saturation process is now completely different, with shorter tumbles, more spraying, and a small spin at the start. Really well designed for washing, at least". The wash action in QPW is very good, with the jet working for most of the main wash. "I am almost certain the recirculation pump runs at different speeds during heating, saturation, washing, etc. by the way the spray pattern looks". The recirculation pump has an inverter motor, but the drain pump has a standard motor. I think the drain pump should have been an inverter as well. "Now rinsing - well... It's drain, rinse, spin, rinse, drain, rinse, final spin. So you actually get 3 rinses in a way?" Yes, with Allergy, you do get an extra rinse and a higher water level in the main wash. "However, you can see that once the water levels get higher, tumbling just DOES NOT HAPPEN - which might be off-settable in longer cycles". It would be good to see the rinse phase without the Allergy option with the same load. Rinsing has improved in the Cottons program as the jet is used throughout the rinse phase. This gives a better exchange of the wash/rinse liquor. I saw a video on Instagram of the Bedding program, and the water in the final rinse is clear, and that program only does two rinses as default. | ||
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Post# 1229137 , Reply# 47 4/18/2025 at 06:21 by Logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 1229667 , Reply# 52 4/23/2025 at 19:30 by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK) | ||
RichNZ:
Yes, I believe that 02:20 > 04:22 in the W2 vid below is the load sensing phase. A sensing phase, once the ⏯️ button has been pressed is a common occurrence with brand new models, or certainly ones from 2010'ish onward (but I'm going by the two AEG's we've had. Our current AEG Lavamat Turbo L87696WD, when it's set on a "Normal" or "Long" length cycle, it take a minimum of 07 mins to 14 mins before it adjusts the cycle time displayed on the LCD (It starts off at 227mins (06hrs 47 mins) with Stains & at minimum 10 mins drying + PermaRinse (Permanent Extra Rinse). I also automatically Pre-rinse the load before, then pre-filling on Woollens to have a better water level and ensure the load's getting a decent wash. The standard cycle fir us is Cottons Quick Intensive 40°C + 10 mins drying time with IVSD Spin Dry, 144 mins (02hr 24 mins) 156 mins (02h 36) mins on wash/dry mode or 01hr 33 mins to 01hr 46 mins on wash only mode. On the "Auto Dry" setting, it does a short 0400RPM spin at 227 mins (03hrs 47 mins), once completed, it then adjusts the drying cycle length, usually to between 80 mins & 110 mins. Sadly my Lavamat Turbo doesnae sport a jet unlike BoschClassixx1200's John Lewis equivalent model. ?si=0-e-EE9EMPHmfosT
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| Post# 1229679 , Reply# 53 4/23/2025 at 20:58 by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK) | ||
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Míele4Life:
With regards to the new W2 series from Míele, referencing your earlier remark, from my perspective: 01) I do quite like the Míele W2 range. R) That's fine, you like it, that's your opinion, from my view, it looks snazzy, looks to do a respectable job, as it's supposed to do, however, for the £3000 pricetag, to own one, isnae worth it, personally, it was pricey enough when I plumped for my ex-NaviTronic W3985WPS, I think I'll stick with my £51.50 Míele SoftTronic WT945S. 02) the amount of hate on the YouTube comments pages are just completely unnecessary and totally unacceptable, especially from the vicious and vile trolls @SamsungLad2005 and @DeepRinseEnthusiast2002. R) It's your opinion that those mentioned remarks are unnecessary, again, that's your opinion, you like it, it's not everyone's cup of tea just because someone voices their opinion doesnae mean it's wrong, just because it doesnae match your own opinion. 03) Anyway, it looks smart, has a slick touchscreen and the paddle-less Honeycomb Drum looks unique. R) Agreed a, it looks smart & streamlined, and I've generally preferred a touchscreen or button control selection over a knob, personally, but not everyone will agree with my preferences. So long as it works for the consumer who purchases one, great, as I was always told "The customer is always right". Regarding the paddle-less wash drum, in a way, it reminds me of the old Servis Quartz models that were seemingly devoid of holes across the main expanse of drum surface, but had small holes at the very back and very front, but I reckon it'll likely turn out similar to the Merloni Servis models with the 04 paddle "speed bump" drum, when it comes to washing smaller loads, it'll just slide round the drum's surface than tumble properly. 04) While the pull-down flap(s) for the TwinDos and pump filters gives it a cleaner look. R) I'm sure it does, I hope it's better than the filter flap/tray on my Lavamat Turbo, which imo, is too low down to the floor and just pours water everywhere as you cannae get a water container under far enough to avoid spillages. 05) As for the washing action, it does a very good job with larger loads while it’s swinging action helps with smaller loads too, the PowerWash action appears to clean very well with just a small amount of water as well as the use of steam from what I’ve seen on the YouTube videos so far. R) This may be so, I havenae seen the wider range of cycle vids to compare against each other, I'll have to take your word for it, but I still cannae shake that Merloni 04 speed bump paddle drum action, just sliding round the drum's surface. 06) I would certainly give 1 a go if I had the space for a third machine, alongside my existing Miele and Asko. R) As I said to point #01, me personally, I couldnae justify payin' £3000 for one, I'd rather put it toward a machine I really really want in my collection, but each to their own. 07) If Míele seems confident about their new models, then time will tell as to whether the paddle-less drum will catch on or not, as with many of their other innovations over the years. R) True, but I wholeheartedly hope that their "guaranteed 20yrs longevity" policy kicks back into play, as from what I've heard from some other owners, the W1 series was certainly not a hassle-free ride in the park. Guid day to y'all. | ||
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