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Thread Number: 97778
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
GE Semi Solid Tub Washer |
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Post# 1227079 3/23/2025 at 17:44 by Chetlaham  (United States) |
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Post# 1227094 , Reply# 1 3/23/2025 at 21:06 by Chetlaham (United States) |
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| Post# 1227096 , Reply# 2 3/23/2025 at 21:54 by Agiflow (Toms River) | ||
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It's nice to see that white straight vein instead of the more common ramp. Ramps are efficient, but overall I like the straight veins better | ||
| Post# 1227097 , Reply# 3 3/23/2025 at 21:55 by Agiflow (Toms River) | ||
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*vanes | ||
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Post# 1227109 , Reply# 4 3/24/2025 at 04:37 by Chetlaham (United States) |
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LOL, its cool :) Auto correct by chance? I've had auto correct fail me in epic ways.
I'm with you, I love the straight can agi, especially in turquoise color!
Maybe I'm looking into it to much, but I feel like GE knew something by going with this type of wash basket perforation design.
Personally I think this design is ideal for spray rinsing. During a spray rinse, water often hits the lower half of the garment load. By placing most of the holes at the top of the basket, rinse water is forced up through the cloth load, out the top row of holes, onto the outer tub, then that water runs down the outer tub walls and down to the drain orifice. Like this the whole machine, including cloths, are rinsed thoroughly.
An intermittent spray sequence such as-
Spin 4 minutes
Spray 30 seconds
Spin 1.5 minites
Spray 30 seconds
Spin 1.5 minutes
Spray 30 Seconds
Spin 1.5 minutes
Spray 30 seconds
Spin 6 minutes
would saturate clothes, spin out the excess residual water, then re-saturate them 4 or 5 times gradually diluting the small amount of remaining residual water each time mimicking a font load rinse sequence. Even perforations would cause water to go straight through the garments where the water flume hits the fabric, mostly missing the upper band of fabric.
I feel like these old washer got more right then wrong. | ||
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Post# 1227126 , Reply# 5 3/24/2025 at 11:02 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas)) |
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my pick goes to... the ramped activator. Very effective. Also, I like a nice deep agitated rinse. | ||
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Post# 1227129 , Reply# 6 3/24/2025 at 12:10 by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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Post# 1227153 , Reply# 7 3/24/2025 at 17:04 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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GE filter, flow washer with less holes in the wash basket
Chet you’re not paying attention. This has been discussed at length GE made this change to reduce the amount of sediment and streaking that can occur in dark clothing because of lint and mineral residue when the machine struggles to drain and spin at the same time.
All spin drain top load washers ever made had this problem to some degree, even neutral drain whirlpool washers, have it to a very slight degree, but it’s almost never visible on a neutral drain machine. Only front load washers escape this problem completely because of the way they tumble and drain. John L | ||
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Post# 1227201 , Reply# 8 3/25/2025 at 00:27 by Chetlaham (United States) |
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| Post# 1227203 , Reply# 9 3/25/2025 at 00:37 by Agiflow (Toms River) | ||
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The older GE filter flows and Maytags and several others that had spin drains would throw the water back over the clothes and that's how you got streaking and lint. A new Speed Queen does not do that. | ||
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Post# 1227214 , Reply# 10 3/25/2025 at 07:07 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Redeposited Lint and scum during spin cycles
Hi Patrick reply number nine you are correct you’re probably also aware that Speed Queen traditional washers that are sold in Canada and Australia, etc. are built with neutral drain because of the problem of red depositing lint, it’s more of a problem in countries where people don’t use clothes dryers for everything.
Chet if you want to see this problem, demonstrated take some dryer lint from a white load of towels and when you wash some dark colored jeans and shirts and things throw it in your Speed Queen and see what comes out. You’ll see this effect, yes, bad washing practices make this a lot worse, but it still is a real problem. That thousands of people have had problems with. John L | ||
| Post# 1227228 , Reply# 12 3/25/2025 at 10:05 by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
Spin drains
Our house, my grandparents, and aunt all had pitman Maytags.
They all did spin drain. And lint or streaking was never an issue. I’m not going to say it’s all false, I don’t have that data. The Maytags also had that center lint filter that worked well. Maybe that helped mitigate it. My other aunts had a DD whirlpool with neutral drain. And that was notorious for forming “tub rings” along the top. But they didn’t have streaking lint issues either. | ||
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Post# 1227230 , Reply# 13 3/25/2025 at 11:04 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Reply number 11
Hi Patrick, obviously it’s a lot worse when water keeps slashing over the top of the tub as it tries to drain because the dirty water is strained through the clean clothing over and over again.
But you still get the effect when you spin a tub full of clothing and water because the clothing tends to go to the outside and the dirty water is forced through the clothing, so you still have this effect in any top load washer that spins the water out of the clothing the clothing tends to turn into a filter. As John mentioned in reply number 12 he’s never seen this happen most people don’t if you sort your clothing properly using enough detergent there isn’t as much mineral residue, etc. you may never have this problem, but of course to a degree. You may not be aware you are turning your clean clothes into a filter that the dirty wash and rinse water is going through so you do get cleaner brighter clothing, if the water can drain away without being strained through the clothing forcefully. When Maytag started selling top load washers that were made by Norge, they even said in the advertising literature that your clothing would be cleaner and brighter than their previous dependable care machine machines because the Norge design machines had such a powerful pump that the water was pumped away more quickly and the hole design in the tub plus the slow acceleration tended to minimize the redepositingof this dirt in the clothing, I don’t make this stuff up. This is straight from Maytag. John L | ||
| Post# 1227237 , Reply# 15 3/25/2025 at 12:37 by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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This is probably an inherent thing with top loaders in general. Whether they spin or neutral drain.
When I was introduced to neutral drain in college with a plastic tub GE, and later WP direct drive, I could watch the soap “scum” later fall on top of the clothes while draining. So I see inherent issues with both methods. Luckily the deep and spray rinses take care of most of that. As stated, proper sorting and detergent dosing probably play key roles in reducing lint streaking. | ||
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Post# 1227246 , Reply# 16 3/25/2025 at 14:26 by Chetlaham (United States) |
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John, that is why you sort clothes based on type and color. You don't wash colored linting items with white towels. Spin drain or neutral drain won't save you from that fact.
I'm with John300m neutral draining just causes scum and what ever is floating on the surface of the water to get -re-deposited on the clothes. More wrinkling as items just clump up at the bottom before spin. | ||
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Post# 1227248 , Reply# 18 3/25/2025 at 14:54 by Chetlaham (United States) |
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My Speed Queen is 710 rpm. I have indeed had scum, and thick ugly rings form on all the neutral drain top loaders that I have used. Yes detergent dosing was right and of a good quality. (Tide Original)
Spin drain eliminates all scum, and the clothes come out smooth with much fewer creases while spread across the tub wall. | ||
| Post# 1227257 , Reply# 19 3/25/2025 at 16:08 by Agiflow (Toms River) | ||
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Simply not my experience... Agree to disagree | ||
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Post# 1227276 , Reply# 20 3/25/2025 at 18:06 by Chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1227277 , Reply# 21 3/25/2025 at 18:06 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Speaking for myself, and I am unanimous 
Never had so much scum and lint on laundry as when had WP vintage "convertible" washer in Harvest Gold no less.
Despite "Magic Mix" filter and spray rinses after main rinse one's darks and richly coloured laundry resembled who did it and ran. Bunging things into dry did help somewhat, but good part of wash days are air dried on clothes horse. Moved WP washer onto another member as was expecting another front loader, and that was that for one. No more finagling around with top loaders aside from Maytag wringer. The "new to me" Haier portable with impeller wash action may soon get the push as well due in part to lint/scum collected in wash. Quite simply it is difficult to avoid such things when water drains through laundry using wash as a sieve so to speak. | ||
| Post# 1227289 , Reply# 22 3/25/2025 at 20:46 by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) | ||
Turbo Rinse Action | ||
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Post# 1227324 , Reply# 23 3/26/2025 at 08:52 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 1227359 , Reply# 24 3/26/2025 at 18:13 by Spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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This thread reminded me of a Simpson TL washer that was introduced here in Australia a few years back. It had only a few tiny holes in the inner tub and water was constantly pumped from the outer tub to the inner tub.
The rationale was that the inner tub would be full of water washing the load but the outer tub would be only half or less full. A way of reducing the amount of water used during the wash / deep rinse. A bit like the old sold tub washers that did not have to also fill the outer tub with water as well. Checkout the YouTube vid. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Spinspeed's LINK | ||
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Post# 1227370 , Reply# 25 3/26/2025 at 20:44 by Chetlaham (United States) |
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Ingenious! Always assuming the worst, I wonder if the holes might become clogged in practice? If not, can see the idea working well on a VMW washer. Either that, just bring back the Calypsos.
You mentioned that this machine does a series of 5 spray rinses. I'm willing to bet, though I've got nothing to back it up, that those small holes might actually help in the processes. Do you have any vids showing the spray rinse process in full?
I thank you for showing me this washer. | ||
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