Thread Number: 97902
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Washer and Dryer Cycle Times To Long? |
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Post# 1228585   4/12/2025 at 09:34 by Chetlaham ![]() |
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Post# 1228591 , Reply# 1   4/12/2025 at 11:06 by GELaundry4ever ![]() |
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I disagree. You need time for modern detergents to work, especially on typical, dirty smelly sweaty loads. sturdy cottons are the biggest offenders. |
Post# 1228601 , Reply# 2   4/12/2025 at 13:06 by DADoES ![]() |
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Post# 1228607 , Reply# 3   4/12/2025 at 14:00 by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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He doesn't specify front load, traditional top load, or HE front load.
90 minutes is far too long in a tradition top load and significantly short for a front load. Not sure what the 90 minute cycle is referencing to. His quote about detergents being quicker is also wrong, todays detergents are heavily based on enzymes, which takes longer to achieve the same results from heavily phosphated detergents that were very alkaline in the past. Oxygen bleach based detergents also require significantly longer times to wrok their magic. There's a reason a white cycle can take 3+ hours in a front loader. |
Post# 1228608 , Reply# 4   4/12/2025 at 14:02 by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 1228612 , Reply# 5   4/12/2025 at 14:41 by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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My toughs on washer modern front load top load direct drive old school mechanical timer belt drive ect
its for us humans to decide 1 the amount of water use base on load size (water level) wash rinse temp cold or warm rinse if washer is before 2025 and older wash time and cycle amount of detergent this should not be control or decided by a computer say you have a typical family with 2 kids in school and you need to wash there gym clothes because they have gym tomorrow would you went to set washer to a super wash pre wash + wash followed by a 14 minute wash then send to the dryer or hang to dry or wait 1 to 2 hours letting everything being control by the washer computer water level and all and see a white shirt need to be rewash because mud stain is still showing or shirt needs to be bleach because of the auto sense washer did not put in enough water (exemple) |
Post# 1228613 , Reply# 6   4/12/2025 at 14:51 by Chetlaham ![]() |
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![]() Agree, and, I'd say your spot on correct.
Washers don't have an accurate way of sensing how soiled clothes are, how much time it will take to remove that soil, and at what temperature and what amount of water. Even dishwashers have the same limitations in the sense that Whirlpool tech literature admits that a dishwasher with turbidity sensor will not pickup baked on soils until after the main wash has time to scrub them off. Ultimately it is up to the user to select Pots and Pans vs Normal vs Light ect.
Electronics are really about cheapening newer washers where as an older machine would handle a moderate imbalance via its suspension, a newer machine uses sensor inputs to either re-try or move forward. |
Post# 1228620 , Reply# 7   4/12/2025 at 16:12 by GELaundry4ever ![]() |
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When I mention everyday clothes, I'm talking about sturdy cottons with a wide range of soil levels, even to the smelliest and filthiest. You need time to remove filth. I just use a normal cycle for most loads along with heavy soil on Speed Queen, which provides a deep rinse. |
Post# 1228621 , Reply# 8   4/12/2025 at 16:17 by GELaundry4ever ![]() |
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I think he's talking about HE front load. |
Post# 1228639 , Reply# 9   4/12/2025 at 19:40 by DADoES ![]() |
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Post# 1228646 , Reply# 10   4/12/2025 at 20:50 by JohnBee ![]() |
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And then you see on Social Media like TikTok laundry tricks like laundry stripping and how gross the water is after "stripping" the clothes.
Or other people complain for residue and mold on the machines. Hello? Learn how to wash your clothes and stop being lazy. I see people dumping everything in one load , using ONLY the quick cycle and use "Eco Friendly" detergents which actually is pure washing soda, in COLD water. Good Luck! I wash everything in warm (yes darks as well), extra HOT for towels and sheets. nothing damaged and everything's clean including the machine. |
Post# 1228647 , Reply# 11   4/12/2025 at 21:04 by William8 (Michigan)   |   | |
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My TC5 takes 35 minutes. I have no choice (unless I do a pre-soak, never have), and it seems fine.
My mother in law, and my neighbors top loaders shortest cycles take about 80 - 90 minutes, and they don't have any choice. And they don't like it. Does the SQ that Jerome uses take longer? My dryer takes about 45-50 minutes on low. Also seems fine. Not sure what the point of the article is. |
Post# 1228650 , Reply# 12   4/12/2025 at 21:10 by appnut ![]() |
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Post# 1228651 , Reply# 13   4/12/2025 at 21:21 by William8 (Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 1228652 , Reply# 14   4/12/2025 at 21:26 by appnut ![]() |
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Post# 1228655 , Reply# 16   4/12/2025 at 21:49 by William8 (Michigan)   |   | |
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A soak period before the rinse, and a longer agitation time. The charts are a bit confusing, as it only gives total time without any options.
There is this: Heavy Soil - Fill/Agitate/Soak/spin 24:00 Others: Wash - Fill/Agitate/Spin 17:30 I have no idea how much of that extra 6.5 minutes is soak or agitate. In Eco you can choose extra rinse/soak, which is 27:00 soak. Never tried it. I don't use eco. In the other modes if you choose extra rinse, it does 2 full fill rinses, which seems excessive! My wife chose that once, before learning to use the machine. |
Post# 1228658 , Reply# 17   4/12/2025 at 21:59 by William8 (Michigan)   |   | |
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I'm not sure why my mother in laws, and neighbors machines take so long. I know they take forever to fill, as they will stop filling, rotate, start filling again (auto balancing?). And a few other oddities, like very long pauses between wash/spin/fill cycles. My neighbor has Kenmore's with agitator, not sure who really made them, about 15 years old. I forget what the MIL uses, no agitator. She hates it though, because of the time.
We used both when our septic field needed replacement, and after those attempts just went to the laundromat, and dried at home. Much quicker. Luckily that only lasted 2-3weeks. |
Post# 1228661 , Reply# 18   4/12/2025 at 22:13 by GELaundry4ever ![]() |
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The Speed Queen front load takes 42 minutes on the longest cycle, while the top loads take 38 minutes on its longest cycle. All being normal and heavy soil. I'm fine with that. On the LG and its counterpart back in Killeen, I'd just stick to the normal cycle unless clothes are extremely dirty or just plain smelly. We are talking about BO. |
Post# 1228662 , Reply# 19   4/12/2025 at 22:14 by GELaundry4ever ![]() |
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I always sort my clothes according to color, and I have no issue with doing laundry. I'd rather use the correct cycle and temperature based on color and fabric type. |
Post# 1228672 , Reply# 20   4/13/2025 at 04:04 by Chetlaham ![]() |
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Post# 1228700 , Reply# 22   4/13/2025 at 14:30 by Chetlaham ![]() |
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![]() Jerome, that sounds like me!
Except you sound like you could get away with a one speed motor and continuous agitation. Am I right?
For me its as follows-
Whites, Towels normal cycle hot wash.
Sheets permanent press cycle hot wash
Colored sheets permanent press cycle warm wash
Causals, medium soils, everyday cotton clothes normal cycle warm wash.
knits and non bright delicates delicate/hand-wash cycle warm wash
Bright colored delicates, fad-able delicates, wool sweaters, knitted items, silk, lingerie, delicate/hand wash cycle cold wash.
On thing I really wish I had was a warm rinse option. |
Post# 1228730 , Reply# 23   4/13/2025 at 19:16 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Before I got my front load...and had a top load... the washer was always finished before the dryer... Now it's the opposite... the dryer is finished before the washer...but I've grown to be totally OK with that. Most of the loads I do are around an hour long... that's with heavy duty and extra rinse or whitest whites which defaults to extra rinse.. Both are around and hour and the max you could get is 1:10 if you bump up the soil level.. I have NO problem with that length of time to wash a load of clothes. I am sort of paranoid about a new washer taking longer than the times I stated above... I'm sure they're longer now than they were then...
I don't agree with this... |