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My Frigidaire Modification!
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Post# 206722   4/27/2007 at 12:30 (6,209 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        

Hey guys, here are some photos of my Frigidaire, post-water-level-modification. It's running beautifully and I couldn't be happier.






Post# 206723 , Reply# 1   4/27/2007 at 12:30 (6,209 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        

shot 2

Post# 206724 , Reply# 2   4/27/2007 at 12:31 (6,209 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        

Splash at last

Post# 206725 , Reply# 3   4/27/2007 at 12:32 (6,209 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        

final shot

Post# 206726 , Reply# 4   4/27/2007 at 12:33 (6,209 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        

One interesting thing I noticed was that the HE detergent gets pretty sudsy with the higher water level. Wonder if there is any real point to using it versus any other low-sudsing detergent if thats that case?

Post# 206761 , Reply# 5   4/27/2007 at 15:53 (6,208 days old) by pumper (SE Wisconsin)        

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that was my observation as well. even with the same amount of soap, you get even more suds. i picked up a kenmore top loader today at a yard sale for $25. seems to work fine. there are a few chips in the porcelain tub. can i just use appliance touch-up paint for them or is there something better?

Post# 206770 , Reply# 6   4/27/2007 at 16:52 (6,208 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Well, you also have nearly nothing in the machine. See how sudsy it gets with a full load, especially through the rinses.

How much of a "turn of the screw" did you do to get the water to this level?


Post# 206793 , Reply# 7   4/27/2007 at 18:27 (6,208 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        
Peter

I tried washing a comforter and it was still very sudsy. I am using Tide HE Liquid.

I gave about 8 or 9 turns of the screw and imagine it could go higher, but this is enough. I don't want too much pressure on the door latch. If there are a lot of suds, some will come out the bottom.


Post# 206795 , Reply# 8   4/27/2007 at 18:30 (6,208 days old) by pumper (SE Wisconsin)        

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I turned mine only 3 times and it's the same level as yours. That must be it's limit.

Post# 206800 , Reply# 9   4/27/2007 at 18:53 (6,208 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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That's a little bit higehr than what I allowed Steve 1-18 to set my water level at. And with a larger and dirtier load, the suds become almost a non-isue. But I"m using Sears HE detergent and am very pleased.

Post# 206804 , Reply# 10   4/27/2007 at 19:09 (6,208 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Very nice Deco, front load washing the way it was meant to be!

Post# 206825 , Reply# 11   4/27/2007 at 21:26 (6,208 days old) by lombardian ()        

Does anyone know if the water level can be modified on a kitchenaid ensemble? Its two years old.

Post# 206831 , Reply# 12   4/27/2007 at 22:27 (6,208 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        

If it has a simple pressure switch you should be able to.

Where that switch is located....anyone know?



Post# 206847 , Reply# 13   4/27/2007 at 23:27 (6,208 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)        
lombardian

Your Kitchenaid is just like my HE3t-Take a look at the first picture in my thread about the HE3t teardown. If you look at the first picture, the pressure switch is just under the main top, to the right hand side.

This pressure switch looks MUCH more complicated than the ones I've seen on Frigidaire so I am hesitant to mess with it myself. Good Luck!

David


Post# 206862 , Reply# 14   4/28/2007 at 05:44 (6,208 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Tide HE in all it's forms is very sudsy. In fact using the full suggested dosage is almost certianly to send your machine into suds lock heaven. Did so once and it took many, many, many, many, many, many cycles running the machine empty to get the damn suds out. Gave up on rinsing the laundry in the machine, and dumped the lot into the bath tub.

L.


Post# 206876 , Reply# 15   4/28/2007 at 08:53 (6,208 days old) by drhardee ( Columbia, SC)        

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OK, now my interest is piqued! Can I do a water level modification on my '02 Frigidaire GLTF1670A?
4 out of 5 dentists surveyed seem to agree that I'm somewhat mechanically inept, but if it's simple enough, I could probably manage this....
How How How???


Post# 206893 , Reply# 16   4/28/2007 at 10:36 (6,208 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        

I don't know exactly what model that one is, but on my Frig, the pressure switch (which controls water level) is a round object on the ride side of the machine under the top lid.

I unplugged the machine first, removed the top lid which is held in place by two screws in the back, and I was able to get inside. The pressure switch is right there, easily recognizable.

I then took a Phillips screwdriver and turned the screw which is in the middle of that round object (the pressure switch) several times clockwise.


Post# 206897 , Reply# 17   4/28/2007 at 10:46 (6,208 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        
Launderess

What is your pick for the best low-sudsing formula?

Post# 207003 , Reply# 18   4/28/2007 at 17:53 (6,207 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Persil

P&G Pro-Line Tide "Stain Removal Treatment"*

Vintage Wisk "Power Scoop" ultra powder (unscented)




* Nabbed a case of Tide SRT, which is marketed by Proctor and Gamble under their "Pro-Line" line for use in commercial laundries such as those found in hotels and cruise ships. The powder is sold as an in wash stain removal treatment for use in "reclaiming" badly stained linens that did not come clean in the inital wash, and or use as a pre-wash/soak.

What struck me as odd is the MSDS from P&G's own website says the product is "Tide w Bleach" or "Tide". Tide Proline's website says the product is very concentrated and low sudsing, and can be used in HE machines. Though laundry with high detergent residue and or using too much product can cause excess foaming (sound familar). Customer serivce swore up and down to me on the phone that the product is NOT regular Tide and shouldn't be used as a laundry detergent.

Being as the above may have been using 1-2 tablespoons along with some Ecover oxygen bleach and getting outstanding results. Very little to no sudsing in the wash, and VERY clean rinsing. In fact water is usually clear by the third rinse on my Miele. Like all Tide products, there is scent but IMHO not the same as Tide HE, and on the whole rather nice.

L.


Post# 207062 , Reply# 19   4/29/2007 at 04:21 (6,207 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I'm not here to spoil your fun, but it's actually better to have a lower water level in the main wash. The wash action is cushioned by the higher water level and the suds, so you will not get the full wash action. There should be enough water in the drum to get the clothes saturated but not so much that the clothes drop back into the water. They should fall at the side of the drum, just over the water level.



Post# 207073 , Reply# 20   4/29/2007 at 05:58 (6,207 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        

I agree. I rented a house about 10 years ago that had a BOL Servis FL and I used to pour a half bucket of water to the machine to raise the water level of the wash water in the belief that it would give better results. It took a while but I noticed that whenever I raised the water level, especially on white washes with dirty dish cloths, tea towels and table linen, the results were never as good and I stopped doing it. The results spoke for themselves. I have never done it since so, whilst you might prefer to raise water levels for rinses, it is not always a good idea to do so for the wash. Just my opinion!

Post# 207106 , Reply# 21   4/29/2007 at 11:10 (6,207 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        
Thats OK guys

I agree, stain removal works better with the lower water level as you said.

The reason I prefer the higher level is because it has been much more effective for me with odor removal (underarms).

And of course, much more fun to watch :)


Post# 207182 , Reply# 22   4/29/2007 at 18:23 (6,206 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Decodriveboy, tomturbomatic here has used Borateem for years for odor removeal. He swears by it, especially in the more hot humid months.

Post# 207215 , Reply# 23   4/29/2007 at 19:25 (6,206 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        
Gracias!

Down here, the heat and humidity are no joke. I will check that out!

Post# 207249 , Reply# 24   4/29/2007 at 21:32 (6,206 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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