Thread Number: 13128
When did the "good" Kitchen aid dishwashers stop being made? |
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Post# 227852   8/5/2007 at 12:54 (6,109 days old) by cny4 (Central New York)   |   | |
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Does anyone know what was the last year of the "good" Kitchen Aid dishwashers? My parents bought one in 1988 and that was the old center latch style. |
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Post# 227873 , Reply# 1   8/5/2007 at 15:44 (6,108 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 228595 , Reply# 2   8/8/2007 at 11:38 (6,106 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 228605 , Reply# 3   8/8/2007 at 12:10 (6,106 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 228615 , Reply# 4   8/8/2007 at 13:04 (6,106 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)   |   | |
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I would love to get my hands on a Hobart made Kitchenaid--particularly a top load. But wouldn't pass up the chance at any Hobart made. They sure were built like tanks. and they hardly ever, if ever, broke down. Most people that I knew that had the Hobart Kitchenaids said they never had a repair but one day it just died.
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Post# 228675 , Reply# 5   8/8/2007 at 16:31 (6,105 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Somebody posted a KA ad from appx 1990 here recently and the claim that the KA can outlast a kitchen was still true then even after Whirlpool took over. I haven't even bothered to look at a new dishwasher since my 1990 KA has yet to give me a reason to, so I don't know what sort of damage Whirlpool has inflicted on the KA badge at this point. If they've done what they did to Maytag, it can't be good. I think if you get a KA that still has the old tried and true Hobart system even if they were made after the Whirlpool takeover, you'll be fine. Anything with a different lower wash arm design than the trademark KA 4-sided one would be suspect and probably not the indestructible machine that KA was known for. |
Post# 228696 , Reply# 6   8/8/2007 at 17:03 (6,105 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 228717 , Reply# 8   8/8/2007 at 17:40 (6,105 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)   |   | |
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My mom's KDS-23 is Whirlpool made, but with the Hobart design, from 1993. It heats the first wash, and cleans as well as my older Hobart KD's. And it's super quiet. Bobby in Boston |
Post# 228731 , Reply# 9   8/8/2007 at 18:12 (6,105 days old) by machinehead ()   |   | |
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Hey gang-- Anyone know what exactly Whirlpoo did to KA now that its been awhile? Is it still all junk or did they leave KA alone pretty much? |
Post# 228842 , Reply# 14   8/8/2007 at 22:48 (6,105 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)   |   | |
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Stevet: If your post was referring to me, then all I can do is laugh at this point. After just purchasing the whirlpool top loader from GregM and My Bosch in the Kitchen, my partner would have a fight If I turn around and buy yet another dishwasher. I should have also stated in my post that It would have to be portable. However, Maybe you should post some pics of it--just in case. MachineHead: My Bosch is doing a great job and it's not a whirlpool design. Extreamly quiet and thrifty with water. Gleaming dishes when the cycle is complete. Yes, it does take nearly 2hrs for it to complete the normal cycle, and all full cycles include sanitize. However, I do agree with what Toggleswitch said in another post about energy savings. If I turn down my hot water heater to the now recommended 120, yes that does save energy. But if when I run my dishwasher it runs for 2 hrs to complete a cycle the consist of purge, wash, rinse, rinse, dry. then didn't I just use up the energy I just saved at the hot water heater??? I know that they can now make electric motors that use less electric, but 2 hrs??? how much are we really truely saving here? |
Post# 228861 , Reply# 15   8/8/2007 at 23:24 (6,105 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 228928 , Reply# 17   8/9/2007 at 07:31 (6,105 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 228962 , Reply# 18   8/9/2007 at 09:56 (6,105 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 229136 , Reply# 20   8/9/2007 at 21:17 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229141 , Reply# 21   8/9/2007 at 21:28 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229142 , Reply# 22   8/9/2007 at 21:30 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229145 , Reply# 24   8/9/2007 at 21:47 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229148 , Reply# 25   8/9/2007 at 21:51 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229153 , Reply# 26   8/9/2007 at 21:59 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229157 , Reply# 27   8/9/2007 at 22:03 (6,104 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 229159 , Reply# 28   8/9/2007 at 22:04 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229203 , Reply# 29   8/10/2007 at 00:12 (6,104 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 229236 , Reply# 31   8/10/2007 at 08:41 (6,104 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)   |   | |
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Here's a closer view of the controls. Jerry Gay |
Post# 229237 , Reply# 32   8/10/2007 at 08:42 (6,104 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)   |   | |
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And here's the innards . . . Jerry Gay |
Post# 229238 , Reply# 33   8/10/2007 at 08:43 (6,104 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)   |   | |
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More innards . . . Lower rack. Jerry Gay |
Post# 229239 , Reply# 34   8/10/2007 at 08:44 (6,104 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)   |   | |
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Upper rack . . . Jerry Gay |
Post# 229244 , Reply# 35   8/10/2007 at 08:47 (6,104 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)   |   | |
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Here's the under side of the top rack showing the metal wash arm and what I believe to be a china guard, thought I never heard it called that. Such a shame this kind of quality product is not still made. Jerry Gay |
Post# 229253 , Reply# 36   8/10/2007 at 09:09 (6,104 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 229276 , Reply# 37   8/10/2007 at 10:03 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229277 , Reply# 38   8/10/2007 at 10:05 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229278 , Reply# 39   8/10/2007 at 10:06 (6,104 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 229279 , Reply# 40   8/10/2007 at 10:06 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229281 , Reply# 41   8/10/2007 at 10:07 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229286 , Reply# 42   8/10/2007 at 10:22 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229295 , Reply# 43   8/10/2007 at 10:42 (6,104 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 229310 , Reply# 44   8/10/2007 at 11:35 (6,104 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 229348 , Reply# 45   8/10/2007 at 13:47 (6,104 days old) by rapidry1000 (San Francisco)   |   | |
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Jerry I have the exact In-Sink-Erator Classic Supreme dishwasher purchased in April 1988. It's a great dishwasher and I love the blower that dries everything quickly. Still runs like new. |
Post# 229523 , Reply# 47   8/10/2007 at 23:46 (6,103 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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I always liked those In-Sink-Erator dishwashers. I think the only differences between In-Sink-Erator and KitchenAid is the In-Sink-Erator's didn't have that stand still water heating in the first fill. But they were designed to take 120 input water and heat to 140 automatically. The model above that Jerry has looks so simular to the KitchenAid Practian model. I don't think but don't know for sure none of the In-Sink-Erator's had sani rinse option. I would love to own one. Peter |
Post# 230074 , Reply# 50   8/12/2007 at 23:11 (6,101 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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My mom and dad just came back from Florida and had stayed with my uncle who has one of the newer tall tub KA dishwashers. My mom said she used the machine a few times while she was their and said it was so disappointing especially since she had a KA for 25 years that was built like a tank. Mom likes her tall tub GE like mine but wanted to buy another KA just over 2 years ago when her old KA went. She is now happy I talked her out of it. She can't believe how the company downgraded the dishwashers. She said the SS on this newer version is like a tin can and hates the loading patterns. She said the plastic on her GE tall tub is more durable than the KA SS tub, and said she still wishes KA made the old style dishwashers. I also like my GE tall tub but still miss the KA loading patterns with the versatle upper rack. The only thing I didn't like about them was the noise. I would be into getting a 22 or 23 series because by that time they were making them quiter. I will always wonder what they would be like if they continued to make them and they made them into tall tub dishwashers. To me the worst tragedy in appliance history is when WCI bought Frigidaire and the second worst tragedy is the demise of the KitchenAid dishwasher. Peter |
Post# 231209 , Reply# 51   8/17/2007 at 18:33 (6,096 days old) by washerfanatic ()   |   | |
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Wow! Great Dishwasher pictures from the days appliances were built like 747's. |
Post# 235213 , Reply# 54   9/6/2007 at 09:04 (6,077 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 235231 , Reply# 55   9/6/2007 at 11:48 (6,077 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))   |   | |
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The one dishwasher pic you posted, 5 buttons and a knob, has been in service since 1991 in my kitchen. I just replaced the upper wash hose thingie and the entire bottom rack. Works like a champ! I am kinda put off by the cost of replacing the upper rack, which is just beginning to rust - something like $150. Ours is biege or almond or bisque or whateverthehell we're calling it these days. I think it was originally portable and had black panels. |
Post# 235247 , Reply# 56   9/6/2007 at 13:18 (6,077 days old) by tgt ()   |   | |
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Thanks for the suggestion--will do. |
Post# 235369 , Reply# 57   9/7/2007 at 08:39 (6,076 days old) by andrewinorlando ()   |   | |
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Eric - I would check on eBay for those racks - I see them there all the time for like $30. |
Post# 235398 , Reply# 58   9/7/2007 at 12:39 (6,076 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))   |   | |
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Post# 235560 , Reply# 60   9/8/2007 at 19:27 (6,074 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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My grand mother add a portable kitchenaid dishwasher witch was given to her by one of my aunts the body was like a regular dishwasher but the timer was on top but i do not know the year or the serie number the control panel add the timer and 2 cycle choice. if anybody know that design all i remeber is it was a kitchen aid she know longer as it but she still as the control panel because my grand father witch is now decese conveterd it into a built in model if anyone as a picture it would be good. tank you |