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Post# 241586   10/10/2007 at 16:09 (6,043 days old) by 74simon ()        

Anyone recognise this automatic, or know what it is?

The screencaps are taken from a 1971 British film, 'On The Buses', and it looks like quite a simple machine - no sign of a detergent drawer, unless it's on top.





Post# 241587 , Reply# 1   10/10/2007 at 16:11 (6,043 days old) by 74simon ()        
Another picture

The door opens from left to right, but what is intriguing is that it appears to have a slight slant front - notice the shadow below the door!

Any idea lads?


Post# 241589 , Reply# 2   10/10/2007 at 16:18 (6,043 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
I know!!!!

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It's a Philips! Here's a picture of a similar machine.

Post# 241590 , Reply# 3   10/10/2007 at 16:19 (6,043 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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And a close up of the Philips label.

Post# 241596 , Reply# 4   10/10/2007 at 16:45 (6,042 days old) by 74simon ()        
Wow!

Thanks Louis, you're quick off the mark!

And fancy it being a Philips... what a coincidence after your post earlier!

Si


Post# 241598 , Reply# 5   10/10/2007 at 16:57 (6,042 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Here's a picture of a later model. The detergent dispenser is indeed on top. The mother of a schoolfriend had a similar one with blue control panel, but that one had already the rotary control like in this later model. It's possible though that it wasn't a Philips, but a Ruton or Erres, the labels that Philips also used for washing machines.

Loved the series "On the buses" btw, it was broadcasted in Holland too. It's a long time ago, can't remember seeing this episode.


Post# 241600 , Reply# 6   10/10/2007 at 17:05 (6,042 days old) by 74simon ()        

There were actually three full length 'On the Buses' movies between 1971 and 1973 - the first one (which is where the screencaps come from) was apparently the highest grossing film in the UK that year!

I don't know if you use bittorrents, but this film and most of the series are available for download. It's all classy stuff!

Si


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Post# 241605 , Reply# 7   10/10/2007 at 17:38 (6,042 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

My goodness that is a coincidence.

I toyed with the idea earlier of posting the piccy below in the other philips thread.

I remember watching this episode many many years ago and wondering then what it was - now I know that it is a Philips.

I seem to remember the dippy wife - olive i think - going and buying it oh hire purchase or something and the bus driver hubby going ballistic when he sees it and insists it goes back - or something like that anyway.

Thanks for stumbling across this one, posting it, bringing back some memories and solving a mystery for me.

Cheers guys
Paul


Post# 241611 , Reply# 8   10/10/2007 at 18:03 (6,042 days old) by 74simon ()        
That's a great piccy Paul,

Love how it's a modern setting, the machine looks hammered, yet it's still in use! Looks like a deluxey version too.

You're close on the film plot - the mum bought the machine on hire purchase, but it was returned as her bus driver son lost his overtime and couldn't keep up with the payments thanks to... shock horror...

FEMALE BUS DRIVERS!!! You gotta love the 1970s.

Looks like it's Philips night tonight on aw.org hehehe

Si


Post# 241656 , Reply# 9   10/11/2007 at 01:40 (6,042 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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hahaha i love that movie and watched it earlier in the week, gotta love good old british sitcoms
i've always wondered what that machine was.
matt


Post# 241662 , Reply# 10   10/11/2007 at 02:19 (6,042 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Si,

I didn't even know what Bittorrents is. LOL. I will see into that later.

Paul,

Another coincidence, I have a picture from that same kitchen!


Post# 241749 , Reply# 11   10/11/2007 at 12:10 (6,042 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hiya Louis.

Is the machine yours at all?

I honestly can't remember where I stumbled across the image that I posted. To be quite honest it would either be here, or during a trawl on Flickr.

Can you tell us anything about the machine at all? or indeed the series? Would be particularly interested to know what model numbers these machines were as I know absolutely nothing of this particular series of machines.

They look stunning though - be great to know that one survives in good hands today.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 241752 , Reply# 12   10/11/2007 at 12:24 (6,042 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Paul,

No, that's not my machine. I saved it from the internet, from this album.

I actually don't know much about these machines. I love the slanted front, but IIRC the drum wasn't. As far as I remember the one the mother of my schoolfriend had spun with 750rpm, but I'm not sure about that.

I hope there is somebody who knows more about Philips washers, I always had a weak spot for them, ofcourse partly because it was a Dutch brand, although the machines weren't built overhere.

Louis


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Post# 242170 , Reply# 13   10/13/2007 at 08:23 (6,040 days old) by bearpeter ()        
Philips inclined drum

After looking at the thread it seems I had the last of the models Philips did as an inclined drum as it had a blue fascia but the spin control was a small knob on the right. IIRC it had a separate temp control and main programme switch. (Not overly sure about the temp control though.
It was a great machine (when I was 18 and now 40) but lasted only a few months! Programmer went.
Shame, loved the Philips washers and dryers.

On a similar note, When Philips Whirlpool was the brand they were great for relaiability, quiet, fab performance...... What happenned when they lost the Philips name?? The machines with the colour co-ordinated controls were awful, noisy, and in my opinion, very BOL (Have no experience of newer WP machines)
Peter
Peter


Post# 242328 , Reply# 14   10/14/2007 at 08:52 (6,039 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Peter,

Did yours have two small controls at the right? I think I vaguely remember such a machine, but I'm not sure. It's such a long time ago. LOL


Post# 242496 , Reply# 15   10/15/2007 at 12:13 (6,038 days old) by bearpeter ()        
Philips INclined drum

Foraloysius,
As you said, it was a oong time ago... My machine looked a bit more modern than the photos posted on here. I remember the Left Hand control was the programmer and on the right was the spin speed. I am sure that there was a temp control next to it because the programmer was very basic, in line with a machine that had a separate temp control. Does that make sense... IIRC the front had a slightly softer front compared to the ones on here and the fascia was different shades of blue.
Wish I had more information.
Peter


Post# 242660 , Reply# 16   10/16/2007 at 04:11 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Yes Peter, that does make sense. As I said, I vaguely remember a model that had a spin control and a temperature control on the right. Don't remember any colors though.

Another thing: I don't remember these machines as having a tilted drum. As far as I remember the machine of my friend's mother didn't have a tilted drum, just a slanted front. If you look at the last picture it looks like the rubber boot is wider at the bottom than it is at the top. But as we said before, it's all a long time ago! LOL

Louis


Post# 242661 , Reply# 17   10/16/2007 at 04:14 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Hang on, I just found another picture. Is this the machine you mean? It's a Philips 303 I think.

Post# 242662 , Reply# 18   10/16/2007 at 04:18 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Darn, ofcourse not, this one has only one control at the right.

Post# 242663 , Reply# 19   10/16/2007 at 04:35 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I thought it would be nice to share some more pictures of Philips frontloaders here. This is a later model with the controls still on the left, but the detergent dispenser had already moved to the front. This machine is from the 70's. From the German "Waschmaschinen-forum".

Post# 242664 , Reply# 20   10/16/2007 at 04:37 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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A cheaper model, no separate temperature control.

Post# 242665 , Reply# 21   10/16/2007 at 04:39 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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A later series with the timer at the right. This was the TOL model with controls for both spinspeed and temperature.

Post# 242667 , Reply# 22   10/16/2007 at 04:42 (6,037 days old) by bearpeter ()        
Thats the styling!!!

That IS the machine but the control panel is slightly different!
What is the control on the right? I am interested...
Peter



Post# 242680 , Reply# 23   10/16/2007 at 07:34 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
TL?

I'm wondering if someone of you could post some pics of TLmodel...like those we saw in catalogue pages...specially the 60CM WIDE!!!!!!

Post# 242689 , Reply# 24   10/16/2007 at 08:15 (6,037 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

I have never seen a clear picture of a right hand drive Philips before - cheers for posting. Were these sold in the UK at all?

Love the deep blue styling on the 303. In the UK we had the 707, but would I be right in thinking there was an 808? A colleague of my mothers had a left hand drive Philips with deep blue features and 808 springs to mind for some reason. I have attached a piccy of the matching dryer to my mystery philips. love that blue!

cheers
paul


Post# 242691 , Reply# 25   10/16/2007 at 08:16 (6,037 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the only picture of a 60s 70s toploader is of the Slimstar - any ideas of the specific model number anyone?

Post# 242694 , Reply# 26   10/16/2007 at 08:21 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Perhaps we should post pictures of toploaders in the other thread (about the CC1000) and here pictures of frontloaders. I am posting another picture of the Slimstar there.

Post# 243319 , Reply# 27   10/19/2007 at 07:46 (6,034 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Peter!!! Tada!!!!

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I think I found pictures of the machine you were looking for. It's the Philips 606. A guy from Belgium sent me these pictures quite a while ago, but I didn't put them in my Philips map, just in the map with the other pictures he sent me. So here they are.

Post# 243320 , Reply# 28   10/19/2007 at 07:47 (6,034 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Timer

Post# 243321 , Reply# 29   10/19/2007 at 07:48 (6,034 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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spin and temperature dials

Post# 243322 , Reply# 30   10/19/2007 at 07:49 (6,034 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Control panel

Post# 243323 , Reply# 31   10/19/2007 at 07:49 (6,034 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Control panel without flash

Post# 243324 , Reply# 32   10/19/2007 at 07:50 (6,034 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Side view

Post# 243327 , Reply# 33   10/19/2007 at 08:03 (6,034 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        
Philips Top loader 60's / 70's

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Hi Paul, That pic you uploaded of that Philips Slimstar i think would dated from the mid 70's (i think) only because the Last Thor Automagic i picked up from London about 2 years ago, the guy brought this exact machine brand new and stored it in the garage until the Thor gave out..when i went to get the Thor the old gentleman asked if i could help with getting the Slimstar into the kitchen, it was still in the packaging, and i helped him plumb it in and it still had the packet of free washing powder inside !! Thinking about it now, wish i had asked if i could have purchased it if him, the styling was great on it, and being brand new would have been fab.
Cheers
Keith


Post# 243340 , Reply# 34   10/19/2007 at 09:54 (6,034 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
What a trick!

:-D A slant front door but not a slant front drum!
Seems to be like some Candy here during late 60s early 70s...the little round lid was "throwing" (sporgente), from the front wall of the cabine although it was not a slant front...
Mhmm, Philips has not been ever saved on lide size even during those years when washing machine used to have got thos very little "holes" called windowed lid...

GOOD!
Thanks Loui for sharing
Diomede


Post# 243344 , Reply# 35   10/19/2007 at 10:13 (6,034 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
WOW!!!!!

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I swear I need to take a picture of my Grandads Philips dryer in Almond with brown control panel and orange graphics. Same Dial as the Later Series With Timer on the Right as Louis posted.

I love that design,

Great memories of me putting the wet washing from Nanas Philco into the dryer and setting the timer for her on instruction.

R


Post# 243391 , Reply# 36   10/19/2007 at 17:24 (6,033 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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yes u do rob lol, my grandma has the same one, still going strong apparently, built like a tank
Matt


Post# 243396 , Reply# 37   10/19/2007 at 18:04 (6,033 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Rob,

Is your Grandad's like this one?


Post# 243398 , Reply# 38   10/19/2007 at 18:05 (6,033 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Or like this one?

Post# 243496 , Reply# 39   10/20/2007 at 09:08 (6,033 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Louis

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its like the top one you posted, round door the same as that. However its got a dark control panel instead of the steel one on that. Also it only has 2 dials. Time and temperature. Temp dial is the tiny one. No lights or anything else. Im assuming it was bought in 1984/5 or so together with the Philco. Nana also had a under counter Philips fridge. Very similar in design to the fridge freezer Madge and Harold in Neighbours had in the 80s/90s. Think Jim Robinson had same fridge freezer too. Il try to get a snap of it soon as I can. Rob

Post# 243497 , Reply# 40   10/20/2007 at 09:13 (6,033 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Does it perhaps look like the one in this picture?

Post# 243556 , Reply# 41   10/20/2007 at 13:23 (6,033 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
hmmm

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Louis I cant really see it right now from the pic i get on my phone but its looks right. Is that a UK Kitchen? Looks it with the hi back Cooker or did you have that slim design over there too? Il look properly when I get to the pc. Rob. Thanks for posting these pictures, im very grateful you took the time to do so. :)

Post# 243558 , Reply# 42   10/20/2007 at 13:35 (6,033 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        

Louis who was that Belgium guy? a washer collector? I can't find any one who's interested in Belgium:s Btw those philips washers where a real hit around here. Even a popular soap 'FC the Champions' (FC De kampioenen) had in one of theire first episodes a philips/siera washer. I was 3 year when I saw the episode for the first time and it took me 10 years to find that episode again!



Post# 243709 , Reply# 43   10/21/2007 at 07:44 (6,032 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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No, not a washer collector. He was more into the so called "American kitchens". But he had some classic appliances as well. Mail me if you want more details.

Post# 243710 , Reply# 44   10/21/2007 at 08:05 (6,032 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
OMG...Blast From The Past

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Nice pics there guys...Blue certainly was Philips`s colour in the 70`s.... I love the sloping front of the earlier machine,looks so robust...The SlimStar toploader is the UK HN3156, 1000rpm, this had the side detergent dispenser..

I think the Philips machines of the 70`s / 80`s up to the Italian 090 series where by far the most stylish machines around and very functional, I could kick myself for not having kept all the sales documentation from then...

That kitchen has the AWM082 series washer , paired with the D186 dryer, these had the polypropylene tub, permag motor, both with 10yr guarantee..The drum was suspended on 4 large springs with 2 damper struts down below, allowed the tub to flex but was very sturdy during the spin as these spun with the tub full of water for an even distribution.The dishwasher was the Series X2000 with all polypropylene tub as well, very quiet, and the fridge freezer was the ARG 196...the bigger one that that was the ARG411..


I`m keeping my fingers crossed, Alpha Dave called around to say that a friend had moved into a house and the original machine was there, she asked "did he want it" he said NO "But I know a man who does"...lol..Dave said , "You`ll never guess what it is??" and he said a 70`s Philips with a "Silver Console"...OMG you`ll have to wait til next week, as I will!!



Post# 243723 , Reply# 45   10/21/2007 at 09:10 (6,032 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
D186

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sounds about right for the model number! Could be the one. Im sure its a 186. Cant wait to see some pics Mike or your new collection piece. It does have to be said, that the Philips machines did look and feel more substantial in style than the other machines at the time. Wow I just cant wait, roll on next week. Rob

Post# 243747 , Reply# 46   10/21/2007 at 12:06 (6,032 days old) by bearpeter ()        
Thanks Foralysious

The photo titled "Peter - Tada" was the exact machine I had!!!!
What a wonderful machine, but than all "Philips" only branded machines I had were!!!!
Thanks again for the photo!
Peter


Post# 243759 , Reply# 47   10/21/2007 at 13:06 (6,032 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Gotta love the style of that 606

What a classically 70s smart looking machine.
Do you know if the machine is still with us Louis? It looks immaculate.

Never seen a front loading Philips, controls on the front, with the programme guide sticking up from the back - weird, but I like it.
Did yours have this feature Peter?

Like with Rob, I too am very excited at the prospect of a 1970s Philips being preserved. Will it be blue or will it be bronze? Fingers crossed for a successful outcome.

Say hi to Dave for me Mike.
Cheers
Paul





Post# 243928 , Reply# 48   10/22/2007 at 09:23 (6,031 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
D186

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Louis!!!!


YES!!!! Ive had a proper look now and that is the Dryer!

Matt!!! EEEEEKKK!!!!


~Wow

*speechless*

Rob



Post# 243970 , Reply# 49   10/22/2007 at 13:31 (6,031 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Paul,

Yes, that washer is still with us. I mailed with the owner and he confirmed that the drum is not tilted, just as I thought I remembered. I think the programme guide is cool, I think it folds down, just as it does on my Philips AWB119 toploader.

Peter and Rob,

I'm glad I can share those pictures with you, that's what we're here for, isn't it?

Louis


Post# 243987 , Reply# 50   10/22/2007 at 14:31 (6,031 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Hi Louis

Thanks for checking - its always nice to know that something as smart looking as that is still extant.

Very pleased.
Paul


Post# 244008 , Reply# 51   10/22/2007 at 15:53 (6,031 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Philips 606 for sale

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OK guys and girls,

The owner told me he would like to sell the Philips 606. If you're interested, mail me, I will bring you in touch with the owner. The machine is located in Belgium.

Louis


Post# 671785 , Reply# 52   4/10/2013 at 10:30 (4,034 days old) by koffer ()        
philips superluxe 1970

Hy

Its my Philips Superluxe

Type HN3110
Year 1970 Jan.

Repair in 1993

Change buttons(aac 914\philips 303)
Change pump aac 914\philips 303)



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Post# 671786 , Reply# 53   4/10/2013 at 10:31 (4,034 days old) by koffer ()        
Superluxe more pictures

Table

Post# 671787 , Reply# 54   4/10/2013 at 10:34 (4,034 days old) by koffer ()        
superluxe pictures more

inside

programe made: Carpano et pons

Dual syncron motor.


Post# 671788 , Reply# 55   4/10/2013 at 10:36 (4,034 days old) by koffer ()        
philips superluxe 1970

Inside

Post# 671789 , Reply# 56   4/10/2013 at 10:50 (4,034 days old) by koffer ()        
Philips more series

www.lamachinealaver.com/index.php...

set 3type


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Post# 671797 , Reply# 57   4/10/2013 at 12:11 (4,034 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Whats that up there Louis??

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could it say , is it possible? NO! 
"lamachinealaver" how could that be??

 

 

Nice machine Koffer, I'd love to play with that! Thanks for sharing!

 

 


Post# 671800 , Reply# 58   4/10/2013 at 12:24 (4,034 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Sigh....

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Yes dear, but nowadays it is lave linge. Like on this site:

www.brandt.fr/...

Machine a laver is more an oldfashioned word. But that would fit you I guess.... lol


Post# 671995 , Reply# 59   4/11/2013 at 14:43 (4,033 days old) by koffer ()        
Philips Superluxe

Thanks Jetcone


is for somebody so,possibly sale?
Or 303?(aac914,Radiola Pentematic)

K


Post# 672219 , Reply# 60   4/12/2013 at 14:02 (4,032 days old) by koffer ()        
History of eastern europe washing machine made

tatramat------philips

Post# 672220 , Reply# 61   4/12/2013 at 14:03 (4,032 days old) by koffer ()        

indesit -----------hajdu

Post# 672221 , Reply# 62   4/12/2013 at 14:04 (4,032 days old) by koffer ()        

indesit -----------hajdu

Post# 672222 , Reply# 63   4/12/2013 at 14:06 (4,032 days old) by koffer ()        

aeg -----hajdú

Post# 672230 , Reply# 64   4/12/2013 at 14:37 (4,032 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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IMHO that Tatramat doesn't really look like a Philips. For one, the timer is on the wrong side. Could it be a Brandt in disguise?

Post# 672372 , Reply# 65   4/13/2013 at 02:31 (4,031 days old) by koffer ()        
Tatramat-philips

Incompletely this type because it for what I was looking no i found it.


Post# 672374 , Reply# 66   4/13/2013 at 02:37 (4,031 days old) by koffer ()        
History of eastern europe washing machine made

Elin Ariston -----------------------------------Vjatka
No picture,im look 1996.


Post# 672377 , Reply# 67   4/13/2013 at 03:37 (4,031 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I'm sorry koffer, I don't know what you mean.

Post# 672390 , Reply# 68   4/13/2013 at 06:40 (4,031 days old) by koffer ()        
philips-tatramat

no the original philips type


Post# 672422 , Reply# 69   4/13/2013 at 09:36 (4,031 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I'm sorry, but I still don't understand what you mean.

IMHO the Tatramat is a totally different machine. Not only does the Tatramat have the timer on the right side and the Philips has it on the left side, but the Tatramat seems to have the pump on the right side too, while Philips had it on the left side. Here is a picture that shows a similar Philips with a small door for the pump on the left.



Post# 672424 , Reply# 70   4/13/2013 at 09:50 (4,031 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Not sure if the Tatramat is a relabeled Brandt, but it comes closer to this machine than to the Philips:

www.lamachinealaver.com/index.php...



Post# 672427 , Reply# 71   4/13/2013 at 10:16 (4,031 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Here is a video of a Laden Super Babette 5, a relabeled Philips. In the video you can see these Philips machines have a detergent dispenser at the back. The Tatramat seems to miss that or have it in a different place.







Post# 672498 , Reply# 72   4/13/2013 at 16:02 (4,031 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Info On Philips

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philips_Ele...


Post# 672527 , Reply# 73   4/13/2013 at 17:11 (4,030 days old) by koffer ()        
tatramat

Thanks Video

A licence of Tatramat, in which they made changes according to me,

Look the tatramat 353,Predom polar.

are these copies?


Post# 672645 , Reply# 74   4/14/2013 at 01:48 (4,030 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
in which they made changes

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That totally doesn't make sense. Then they wouldn't have needed to buy it. No, the Tatramat is definitely not a Philips, but a different relabeled French design.

Post# 672675 , Reply# 75   4/14/2013 at 08:25 (4,030 days old) by koffer ()        
in which they made changes

Maybe...

:-)


Post# 674112 , Reply# 76   4/20/2013 at 01:42 (4,024 days old) by koffer ()        
philips superluxe

There is a working philips somewhere yet superluxe?


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