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Post# 247894   11/12/2007 at 09:23 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247895 , Reply# 1   11/12/2007 at 09:25 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247896 , Reply# 2   11/12/2007 at 09:26 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247897 , Reply# 3   11/12/2007 at 09:28 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247898 , Reply# 4   11/12/2007 at 09:29 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247899 , Reply# 5   11/12/2007 at 09:30 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247900 , Reply# 6   11/12/2007 at 09:31 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247901 , Reply# 7   11/12/2007 at 09:32 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247902 , Reply# 8   11/12/2007 at 09:32 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247912 , Reply# 9   11/12/2007 at 11:25 (6,010 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)   |   | |
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WOW.............. What a catch!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
Post# 247914 , Reply# 10   11/12/2007 at 11:33 (6,010 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 247956 , Reply# 11   11/12/2007 at 14:47 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Steve and I were a bit confused and thought that the timer on the dryer was not working properly. We were going to order another timer until we read the manual that stated that even if you set the dryer for Timed Dry(ex. 40 min), the pointer would move to the end, but continue till the clothes were dry. So what is the point of having timed dry? Guess the Electronic Dry controls were on every cycle. We turned the pointer thru the cycles and it would not shut off. We thought the dark markings were the shut-off points to each cycle. |
Post# 247957 , Reply# 12   11/12/2007 at 14:48 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247958 , Reply# 13   11/12/2007 at 14:49 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247961 , Reply# 14   11/12/2007 at 14:55 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247962 , Reply# 15   11/12/2007 at 14:56 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 247963 , Reply# 16   11/12/2007 at 14:57 (6,010 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 248020 , Reply# 17   11/12/2007 at 18:35 (6,009 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 248028 , Reply# 18   11/12/2007 at 19:09 (6,009 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Gary wanted to see the ding-dong. I pretty much know what the different versins look like, and how they work at this point. :-) The temperatures are exactly as you stated. The other buttons are actually "Dry" and "More dry." The more I see what these Maytag (And Kitchen Aid, too) beauties are all about, the angrier I get with Whirlpool for killing their engineering. |
Post# 248032 , Reply# 19   11/12/2007 at 19:22 (6,009 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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~My Plug Queen created an outlet to convert a 220 dryer to 110. It's actually a very heavy-duty home-made extension cord of sorts that plugs into a 110v standard wall socket/outlet/ power-point. The other end has a large 30a 220v 3-prong receptacle. The "hot" that handles only the heating element is actually fed a neutral in and by the extension cord; so the heater becomes about 1,250w (rounded) on 110 instead of 5,000w on 220v. Plugging the dryer into the dyer outlet on the wall feeds the heater 220v, and using this extensio cord feeds the heater 110v. ONLY CAVEAT: Since this is an older cord and plug on the dryer with three conductors (instead of the newer system of 4 conductors and prongs) the ground and neutral are shared over one conductor. The machine itself is gounded/earthed to the neutral terminal of the wiring terminal block. It is therefore crucial to ensure the outlet has its polarity correct or this thingy will blow fuses at once. |
Post# 248033 , Reply# 20   11/12/2007 at 19:31 (6,009 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 248036 , Reply# 21   11/12/2007 at 19:47 (6,009 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 248071 , Reply# 22   11/12/2007 at 22:18 (6,009 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 248076 , Reply# 23   11/12/2007 at 22:31 (6,009 days old) by tlee618 ()   |   | |
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Gary and Steve these machines are just beautiful!! What a great find. Glad that you were able to save them. |
Post# 248080 , Reply# 24   11/12/2007 at 22:41 (6,009 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 248086 , Reply# 25   11/12/2007 at 22:55 (6,009 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 248089 , Reply# 26   11/12/2007 at 23:00 (6,009 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 248090 , Reply# 27   11/12/2007 at 23:06 (6,009 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 248107 , Reply# 28   11/13/2007 at 00:32 (6,009 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Oooh, they look wonderful! These machines were built like tanks, I always thought the dryers were a little over-built. Was the lens missing for the drum lamp on the dryer? It should be there as the machine will draw air through this and throw off the balance of the universe and probably slow down drying. I would think you might be able to find this part - #3-12892 (new # would be 3012892). From the Maytag service manual on the DE712 time dry control: Time Dry Operation - D712 With timer set for Time Dry, contact 3 and 4 in timer (BU to WH/RD) are closed and bypass the capacitor charging circuit. Since capacitor cannot charge, the solenoid cannot energize to shut dryer off. When the selected time has run down, contact 4 opens and contact 5 closes (BU to GY). This bypasses both high value resistors on the control board (13M & 33M) to set up a "fast charge" circuit through 3 meg-ohm repeat chime resistor. The capacitor will charge in about 1 to 1 1/2 minutes and energize the shut-off solenoid. Cool-down will follow if heat was selected for the Time Dry cycle. Note: If the load is still "wet" at this point the sensor will prevent the charge from building on the the capacitor until the load is down to at least Damp Dry. |
Post# 248109 , Reply# 29   11/13/2007 at 00:39 (6,009 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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Congratulations on getting your new set. They look like they just came from the factory. Have a good one, James |
Post# 248126 , Reply# 30   11/13/2007 at 06:51 (6,009 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Fascinating, thank you Gansky for the technicals. ~Note: If the load is still "wet" at this point the sensor will prevent the charge from building on the the capacitor until the load is down to at least Damp Dry. Fascinating, thank you Gansky for the technicals. Or I could put a switch in effectively bypassing the appropriate sensor (to ground/earth) and fool the damn thing into shutting off! (Hello Doctor? Hi, yes I 've been noticing excessive and continuous dishcharge......) |
Post# 248135 , Reply# 31   11/13/2007 at 07:37 (6,009 days old) by hoover1060 ()   |   | |
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Those are beauties Gary, congrats on them! |
Post# 248137 , Reply# 32   11/13/2007 at 08:14 (6,009 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 248160 , Reply# 33   11/13/2007 at 11:36 (6,009 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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As far as I can recall, Kitchenaid didn't have any washers before Whirlpool bought them. My impression was that KA washers were TOL Whirpool, more or less incorporating with a year or so delay the little extras that Kenmore added to their Whirlpool sourced washers/dryers. The Kitchenaid Superba seemed to be equivalent to a Lady Kenmore in features. The dishwashers of course are another matter. So far they haven't gutted the stand mixers, but give them time ;-(. I do regret letting a beautiful digital push button all-black matching Kitchenaid washer/dryer set slip a couple of years ago. It really looked nice (posted the CL photos here, as I recall). Don't know if Kenmore ever had anything equivalent to that set. |
Post# 248168 , Reply# 34   11/13/2007 at 12:37 (6,009 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I guess I shouldn't be suprised to see how similar things look behind the panels on these machines compared to their 10-15 year older counterparts. Amazed to see the end of cycle bell still being used though. What beautiful and clean machines these are! I swear if I had a set-up for an extra laundry pair, I would likely own a vintage Maytag W/D. There are times when you need to do some kick-ass laundering that requires a workhorse like Maytag was once famous for. My Duet washer needs to be treated with kid gloves and it would be refreshing to be able to run a tough load through a machine that was capable of taking anything you could throw at it, quietly and efficiently handling it all with the ease and simplicity that makes Maytags so attractive. Congratulations on a great score! Ralph |
Post# 248321 , Reply# 36   11/14/2007 at 12:34 (6,008 days old) by jimmyb (Texas Y’all)   |   | |
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They are great condition and a nice addition to your collection! |
Post# 248342 , Reply# 37   11/14/2007 at 15:06 (6,008 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 248512 , Reply# 39   11/15/2007 at 18:48 (6,006 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 248520 , Reply# 40   11/15/2007 at 19:30 (6,006 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 248523 , Reply# 41   11/15/2007 at 19:47 (6,006 days old) by washerfanatic ()   |   | |
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Nice Collection Gary! These were not as classic as center Dials, but were 10,000 times better than when Maytag sunk its boat with Norge, Admiral and Tragic Chef in the 90's. |
Post# 248581 , Reply# 42   11/16/2007 at 03:39 (6,006 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Gorgeous set!! The washer is identical to the center dial machines with the exception of the console and its related components (switches, timer, buttons, ect). TOL machines like this set have a few more options than the TOL center dial counterpart but I'm not bias between either as I own and operate both generations. As long as it contains the older Newton drive tranny, you can't go wrong and it'll last forever!!
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Post# 248588 , Reply# 43   11/16/2007 at 07:19 (6,006 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 248878 , Reply# 45   11/18/2007 at 15:47 (6,004 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 248912 , Reply# 46   11/18/2007 at 20:01 (6,003 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 248936 , Reply# 47   11/18/2007 at 22:09 (6,003 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York)   |   | |
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Great Thread! Maytags were the smartest machines in the world. Shame on Whirlpool for bastardizing them and getting rid of the Dependable Care design. Nice pictures. Good luck with the machines, you won't need it, but good luck. |
Post# 248939 , Reply# 48   11/18/2007 at 22:19 (6,003 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 248969 , Reply# 49   11/18/2007 at 23:02 (6,003 days old) by ~sudsshane ()   |   | |
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WOW!!!! the Tag's look brand new! Where in the world did you find them? Congrats on your new "babies" Shane |
Post# 249018 , Reply# 50   11/19/2007 at 06:06 (6,003 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Happened to find them from a Craigslist listing. I was actually the second person to respond. I was very lucky because the first person could not negotiate a deal with the seller due to a timing issue. When I went to see them prior to picking them up last Sunday, I knew I had to have them since I saw that turquoise powerfin and thought 'helical drive'. Upon more comments from site members, I learned that these machines were TOL and one of the last made with the powerfin agitator. Thank you mixfinder for introducing me to Craigslist. |
Post# 249023 , Reply# 51   11/19/2007 at 06:24 (6,003 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 249039 , Reply# 52   11/19/2007 at 07:51 (6,003 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 249040 , Reply# 53   11/19/2007 at 07:58 (6,003 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 249045 , Reply# 54   11/19/2007 at 08:16 (6,003 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 249051 , Reply# 55   11/19/2007 at 08:40 (6,003 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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