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Post# 264558   2/12/2008 at 06:08 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

Hi all, well after much hunting for a replacement washer after I sold my Indesit on I decided to hunt for a Dyson. Now these are still much sought after in the UK on the second hand market with them changing hands for upto £500 each on ebay not being unusual. I've not managed to find one in the past in my budget. However I managed to pick one up for £200 from an appliance shop in Birmingham and it is the most amazing machine. I've done my first wash in it and what fun it was. So fast and quiet and that lovely whirring noise as the drums go in opposite directions. i'll do some vids soon but here are some pictures for the moment.

Steve





Post# 264560 , Reply# 1   2/12/2008 at 06:09 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
close up drum

Here's the drum thats goes two ways

Post# 264561 , Reply# 2   2/12/2008 at 06:10 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
The control panel

Controls

Post# 264562 , Reply# 3   2/12/2008 at 06:11 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
door label

The info

Post# 264564 , Reply# 4   2/12/2008 at 06:19 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
powder drawer

Nice big detergant dispenser

Post# 264565 , Reply# 5   2/12/2008 at 06:20 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
Ariel

And ready for a wash with Ariel Hygiene and Adritt fabric softner from Lidl.

Post# 264569 , Reply# 6   2/12/2008 at 06:52 (3,535 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Contra

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Hi Steve, nice one there, looking forward to your reviews!!! is it in your kitchen or utility!!!was talking to James about this in depth the other day and interesting how I like the "noise" of a classic machine, and lets face it some twinnys shriek!!! but the only time I heard the Dyson and the Titon in a kitchen I found it sooo distracting & annoying having to listen to it... we are so used to machines being near silent now...

Would be interested in seeing the fill spray jets in action and the inside of the dispenser!!

Cheers, and congrats on the move to Lincoln I see!!!

Mike


Post# 264572 , Reply# 7   2/12/2008 at 07:07 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

Cheers Mike , yes relocated to Lincolnshire at Christmas so I can nearer my family and freinds. I personally dont like near silent washers much I need something that makes some kinda noise lol. The Dyson is in the kitchen and it was on pretty late last night while i was watching tv. was pretty quiet in all, I gather the contrarotation can become noisy if its worn but this machine has been refurbished and seems to run very smoothly.

I'll get some vids done this week and up for you all to see


Post# 264576 , Reply# 8   2/12/2008 at 07:36 (3,535 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
dyson contrarotator

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hi
i'm glad you finally got one, i've got a cr02 white and it is so fast and the clothes are so clean, I love it!!!!
Once you get used to it you don't want to leave it for another washer...
Have fun with the 2 drums.
whats your most favourite/ most used program in the 2 drums?
Mine is Cotton 40oc 1400 spin A class Dirt or Dirt & Stains and sometimes extra rinse.
Bye


Post# 264580 , Reply# 9   2/12/2008 at 07:53 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

Not had chance to do any other washes yet apart from the 40 degree cotton with extra rinse and 1400 spin. It was fast, so fast that i didn't even belive it had heated up the water until i felt it coming out the drain hose, and indeed everything was clean.

Post# 264583 , Reply# 10   2/12/2008 at 08:09 (3,535 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
dyson diagnostic mode

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turn the machine on and press temperature and soil type and the first numbers will tell you how many washes the machines done.
I've done 993 because i've got two other washers, the hotpoint wf541G and a LG WM12220FD and maybe another hotpoint in the future but the best is the dyson most used.


Post# 264585 , Reply# 11   2/12/2008 at 08:10 (3,535 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
I found out..

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I also found out if you wash on dirt and stains than dirt it will do faster intermit and final spins.. check...

Post# 264588 , Reply# 12   2/12/2008 at 08:15 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

2033 washes so far lol

Post# 264593 , Reply# 13   2/12/2008 at 08:30 (3,535 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
Hi

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I even know how to fast forward it, saw my small nephew messing and fast forwarding the machine when no one was looking and i saw him, lol.
after diognostic mode you dont turn the wasger off but you start a program and to forward it to the next stage of the program yu press soil type button once for each step to forward. i've tried it it's simply fast forward.
my frien whose got dyson in silver cr02 allergy he tried it too.


Post# 264594 , Reply# 14   2/12/2008 at 08:41 (3,535 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
to prove the spin speed on dirt and dirt&stains

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when it's washing after diognostic mode the last numbers on the lcd display show speed, on final spin there are 4 numbers followed by Hz.
On dirt soil type it is 1370Hz on final spin and on dirt&stains it is 1760Hz so i think it's faster as it also sounds faster.
the first one rounds up to 1400 and the second one to 1800.


Post# 264596 , Reply# 15   2/12/2008 at 08:47 (3,535 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I want one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post# 264650 , Reply# 16   2/12/2008 at 15:47 (3,535 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Wow! I can't wait for videos! The Dyson Contrarotator is my favorite European washer!

Post# 264653 , Reply# 17   2/12/2008 at 15:52 (3,535 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
Videos

i'll have videos ready on Friday to upload Funguy. I'm gonna do one with the machine empty too so you can really see the two drums in action.

Steve


Post# 264663 , Reply# 18   2/12/2008 at 16:46 (3,534 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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That's certainly a collector's item! Also looking forward to videos. What an interesting machine.

Post# 264664 , Reply# 19   2/12/2008 at 16:49 (3,534 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Will you also be doing videos of the rinse?

Post# 264714 , Reply# 20   2/12/2008 at 23:15 (3,534 days old) by carlstock ()        

Hang on while I get very excited.

Here goes:

*Gets excited*

Iím done.

LOL :)

Wow! :) Must... contain... self... but CANíT!!! :)

An excellent machine, Steve, and a very good buy! :) Excellent design. Yes, an acquired taste perhaps, but I like it. :)

I know Dysons initially had problems, but I know from others that Dyson did a great job with sorting out the issues, and owners are very happy indeed That speaks volumes for Dyson and shows just how good their customer service is, though nothing is ever perfect of course. I just hope Dyson can produce a good, profitable machine soon.

Anyway, I really do look forward to seeing these videos, and I am particularly interested in what happens when it starts - that is, beginning filming just before the machine is started. Also, I am quite intrigued by the rinses and water levels overall.

Thanks again for posting this, Steve. :)

Regards,

Carl :)


Post# 264746 , Reply# 21   2/13/2008 at 08:23 (3,534 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

Yes funguy i'll do a rinse video

Post# 264796 , Reply# 22   2/13/2008 at 14:38 (3,534 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Whoo!

Post# 264828 , Reply# 23   2/13/2008 at 19:12 (3,533 days old) by oldhouseman ()        
Lucky man!

What a find. I would love to have one of these machines. I understand Dyson is not making a washing machine anymore. I wish I had one.

Dyson seems to be like the old Tucker auto company in America just after WWII. I hope they stay in business. I want one of those machines.

I have not joined the Vacume folks yet because they seem to have an odd dislike for dyson vacs. I have severe asthma and it is the best vacume I have found so far when dealing with my particular health issue.

The vac. works better than any I have ever had so I would love to have one of these machines. To bad they are not in production or available in the USA.


Post# 264871 , Reply# 24   2/14/2008 at 03:16 (3,533 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
Dyson vac

Oldhouseman yes I agree on the Dyson cleaner, i've got through several vacs i've not been 100% happy with until I had a Dyson upright last year. It performs superbly and I won't be buying any others again. Who knows when Mr Dyson will relaunch a washing machine, but i'm sure he will at some point and i'm sure it will be amazing too.

Now I must get on with some washing and more importantly videos!

Steve


Post# 265131 , Reply# 25   2/15/2008 at 15:31 (3,532 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
Video start of wash

Hi, well a few probs with getting these videos done but here's the start of them. More will follow once i've got them off the camera.

I've done a wash of a large bed throw on a duvet wash setting. There is no contrarotation action on the program but i have done a video of it with an empty machine which will be uploaded soon.

Before you ask, the tablet shown in the detergant drawer is Tescos limescale prevention.



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Post# 265132 , Reply# 26   2/15/2008 at 15:34 (3,532 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
Wash

Here is the main wash cycle. Persil Non bio liquid gets quite sudsy but I've never had a suds lock yet.




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Post# 265137 , Reply# 27   2/15/2008 at 16:01 (3,532 days old) by funguy10 ()        

O.K. great videos so far but of course several questions:

Why does the washer have 2 doors?
Why do you put in an anti-limescale tablet in the machine with laundry?
Why are you using Putfile.com when Youtube is more popular?


Post# 265141 , Reply# 28   2/15/2008 at 16:31 (3,531 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

The washer has 2 doors because the inner door is part of the inner tub and moves with it ie shakes about. you need the outer door which locks shut to protect kids fingers from being hurt.

We live in a hard water area and I have to use an anti-limescale tablet to prevent damage to the machine over long term use.

I use putfile for these videoes because the quality is far higher than youtube


Post# 265180 , Reply# 29   2/15/2008 at 21:54 (3,531 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Thanks for sharing the pics and vids of this machine, it's a fascinating washer! It's too bad it got discontinued. I would have bought it in a second if it had come to the US!

Post# 265181 , Reply# 30   2/15/2008 at 22:36 (3,531 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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The more I watch it, the more it fascinates me! At first I was skeptical about how harsh the machine is on the clothes, but from the vids it looks as though there is near no tangling nor tugging! Everything is just thrown all over the place! YAY! Such a dramamtic frontloader! I'm writing to Dyson now to beg them to resume production of and introduce their washer to the US!

Post# 265187 , Reply# 31   2/16/2008 at 00:23 (3,531 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
What Would J. Dyson Do?

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It is a very intriguing machine, I can't wait to see the contra-rotating video. What do you think of the cleaning? As good and as fast as he claims?

Post# 265194 , Reply# 32   2/16/2008 at 04:54 (3,531 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

Yes I was suprised how this machine manages to clean so well. It tackled stained white tea towels at 40 degrees with non bio liquid. (Bolognaise sauce stains) Normally i'd need a hotter wash with a stain remover first but they came out clean first time. same with white shirt collers and cuffs. Much cleaner than normal.

Steve


Post# 265207 , Reply# 33   2/16/2008 at 08:15 (3,531 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Contra Rotation

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Hi Steve, great vids, never think of PutFile....it seems to rotate all the time its filling ?? is that right?? the water level seems very decent considering the volume of the drum etc...keep forgetting about the hard water there, are the tabs useful as opposed to calgon??

Cheers, Mike


Post# 265209 , Reply# 34   2/16/2008 at 08:56 (3,531 days old) by funguy10 ()        

I think all Front-Loaders in the UK and the US turn as they fill because they are detecting the right water level.

Post# 265213 , Reply# 35   2/16/2008 at 09:21 (3,531 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Not true, my Haier, Bosch, and Miele frontloaders don't tumble as they fill, they simply fill, tumble for a minute or so, then add water if and as necessary.

Post# 265224 , Reply# 36   2/16/2008 at 10:19 (3,531 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

Thats true not all Front loaders rotate whilst filling it just depends on the machine design. The Dyson rotates on filling Mike on all the programs i've tried so far. Does quite long tumbles too while it does this. I've never actually bought calgon so dont know much about it. The water here is very hard and scale builds up rapidly if you dont use something to counteract the problem.
Steve


Post# 265225 , Reply# 37   2/16/2008 at 10:39 (3,531 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
Dyson contrarotating

Ok here is a vid of the machine contrarotating with it running empty so you can see the drums better. i'll get one done with washing in too soon. It makes more noise during this action due to the huge gearbox required to do this action.

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Post# 265234 , Reply# 38   2/16/2008 at 11:40 (3,531 days old) by funguy10 ()        

I have heard about the huge cast-iron gearbox inside of the machine. Apart from that and the slightly different drum design it is not much different then a normal Front-Loader.

Post# 265235 , Reply# 39   2/16/2008 at 11:41 (3,531 days old) by funguy10 ()        

I have heard about the huge cast-iron gearbox inside of the machine. Apart from that and the slightly different drum design it is not much different then a normal Front-Loader.

Post# 265236 , Reply# 40   2/16/2008 at 11:50 (3,531 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

Its quite different to most front loaders inside also funguy as the tub is attached to the door and is supported with four suspension legs as opposed to two found on most machines. It is similar to the ASKO/Maytag design which uses the same system. Gives much better stability on spin and does away with the need for a standard rubber door seal which is a big failure point on alot of washers.

Post# 265237 , Reply# 41   2/16/2008 at 11:53 (3,531 days old) by funguy10 ()        

So the inside door is attached to the tub and the outside door is attached to the cabinet? I do know the Dyson washers have a RollerJack handle underneath to move them because the 2 tubs, cast iron gearbox and the steel suspension legs make it heavy.

Post# 265238 , Reply# 42   2/16/2008 at 11:54 (3,531 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Also, I can't get the video to load.

Post# 265240 , Reply# 43   2/16/2008 at 12:02 (3,531 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

i just clicked the link and its loaded ok here. Yeah thats right inner door to tub outer door to cabinet. it is a heavy machine yes it was stuck in my car for a few hours as we couldn't get it out and had to wait for some muscleman to help us move it. lol

Post# 265245 , Reply# 44   2/16/2008 at 12:55 (3,531 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Did it have a RollerJack underneath it?

Post# 265248 , Reply# 45   2/16/2008 at 13:03 (3,531 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

Yes all Dyson washers have the rollerjack. You just pull the lever and the wheels pop out ready to roll.

Post# 265257 , Reply# 46   2/16/2008 at 15:12 (3,531 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
rinse

1st rinse

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Post# 265263 , Reply# 47   2/16/2008 at 17:09 (3,530 days old) by bestcleaning ()        

Drum contrarotator, how it is possible? :|

Thanks for posting this. -Rodrigo


Post# 265264 , Reply# 48   2/16/2008 at 18:01 (3,530 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
two drums

Its two drums that are linked by a gearbox and they turn in opposite directions for part of the wash giving better cleaning results. Link below to show the machine and you can link to other bits of its testing and engineering from there to save me explaining all about it to those not familier with what Mr Dyson invented.
Steve


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Post# 265267 , Reply# 49   2/16/2008 at 19:49 (3,530 days old) by funguy10 ()        
Hmm...

This is the "Gearbox" that links the drums together? How does it actually link to the drums?

Post# 265302 , Reply# 50   2/17/2008 at 05:43 (3,530 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

As I understand it funguy, there is one large drum into which a smaller drum goes. The smaller drum locks in place and they all turn at the same time until the gearbox shifts the cogs to drive the other drum seperatly. There appear to be two drum spiders to control each drum .The link to the picture of the drum set up may help understand it.

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Post# 265308 , Reply# 51   2/17/2008 at 07:04 (3,530 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Oh! That's it! Now I get it! Tanks for the link!

Post# 265321 , Reply# 52   2/17/2008 at 08:26 (3,530 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
to sparkcymru

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hi
did you try putting your washer on after diognostic mode, it shows the temp and speed, have a look at my videos on the link below and you'll know what i mean.
have fun.
bye


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Post# 265328 , Reply# 53   2/17/2008 at 09:35 (3,530 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Oh, that's why the display shows all that instead of just "Main Wash" or "Rinse 1" etc. Also, what are your chances of doing a full cycle? Probably unlikely since you've been recording them off a cell phone but then again, I never know...

Post# 265343 , Reply# 54   2/17/2008 at 10:58 (3,530 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
videos

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at the moment i'm using acell phone but maybe in a years time..
who knows..


Post# 265360 , Reply# 55   2/17/2008 at 11:29 (3,530 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Beautiful washer, I wish they were imported to Italy!

anyway here's one on ebay at only 175 £, who of you UK fellas will get it?


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Post# 265361 , Reply# 56   2/17/2008 at 11:30 (3,530 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
First spin

Heres the first spin before rinse cycle starts. 500rpm on the duvet cycle. Machine fails to balance at first go so redistributes and goes 2nd time.

enjoy.
Steve


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Post# 265369 , Reply# 57   2/17/2008 at 11:52 (3,530 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

dyson2drums, I can't get the washer to go into diagnostic mode

Post# 265383 , Reply# 58   2/17/2008 at 12:46 (3,530 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
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hi
1.turn the washer on.
2.straight away press temperature button then one second later presss soil type.
3.start a wash...
THERE YOU GO!
Tell me if you can?


Post# 265386 , Reply# 59   2/17/2008 at 13:02 (3,530 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

No it doesn't work

Post# 265387 , Reply# 60   2/17/2008 at 13:57 (3,530 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
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does it go on diagnostic mode?

Post# 265388 , Reply# 61   2/17/2008 at 13:58 (3,530 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
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if it does, don't turn off washer satrt the program.

Post# 265389 , Reply# 62   2/17/2008 at 14:04 (3,530 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

No can't get it into diagnostic program

Post# 265392 , Reply# 63   2/17/2008 at 14:53 (3,530 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

i got it in the end, have to hold the temp button in while turning it on then jump to soil button

Post# 265396 , Reply# 64   2/17/2008 at 15:30 (3,530 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        
to sparkcymru

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now start a program and by pressing the soil type button once every time it will proceed to the next stage.
check it out.


Post# 265557 , Reply# 65   2/18/2008 at 19:28 (3,528 days old) by acerone ()        

That sure is one large box of Ariel.

In the video posted the washer seems so gentle on the laundry...


Post# 265600 , Reply# 66   2/19/2008 at 01:48 (3,528 days old) by koalas ()        
Franch Dyson

Hi everybody! Here is another video of a French Dyson in my new website www.lamachinealaver.com.... Enjoy. Bert




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