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Kenmore Dryer 1972
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Post# 266940   2/27/2008 at 18:41 (5,902 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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I picked up a 1972 Kenmore Dryer. The only thing wrong was the door cables were broke, and the door wouldn't stay closed. I hooked her up for a test run and everything is fine except for a little whiring noise as the drum rotates, and the timer is making a sort of intermintenet,rhythemic "grunting" sound. Should I or is there a lubricant for the timer ?




Post# 266941 , Reply# 1   2/27/2008 at 18:42 (5,902 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Another shot

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Twice the capacity of what I had

Post# 266943 , Reply# 2   2/27/2008 at 18:50 (5,902 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
The Washer,

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I hate that washer. Short stroke and beats the crap out of my clothes. The Gentle wash doesn't turn anything over. Would love a Nice Old kenmore,Speed Queen, or Maytag Center Control (Ohhhhhhh) with lighted controls.

Post# 266944 , Reply# 3   2/27/2008 at 18:51 (5,902 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Inside Shot

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The Teminator

Post# 266945 , Reply# 4   2/27/2008 at 19:01 (5,902 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Eddie, that dryer is newer than 1972. More like 1974 or 1975 when that control panel style came out. I had a DD Kenmore, I called it the Shredmore. I did most things on gentle, but only put between 3/4 & 7/8 full max just so there'd be rollover.

Post# 266953 , Reply# 5   2/27/2008 at 20:35 (5,902 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Well,

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You're right... I got the Model number wrong...It's 76069130.
But anyway, It's a neat dryer. Hate the Washer as you all ready know. Nothin' like genuine Wood Grain Paneling on the top of the Control Panel


Post# 266984 , Reply# 6   2/28/2008 at 08:07 (5,902 days old) by jmm63 (Denville, NJ)        

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Hey Eddie!!! I have the matching washer to your new dryer in my garage. Its in Almond though. 70 Series. Sadly, its the landlords and I put it in storage when I moved in and brought my own. But should something happen I'll keep you in mind and you can make another trip down here to get yet another vintage machine! :)

Post# 267009 , Reply# 7   2/28/2008 at 10:31 (5,901 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
Appnut....try 1976 or newer

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Sears did not come out with that panel until 1976 (the year of my birth). PAT COFFEY

Post# 267022 , Reply# 8   2/28/2008 at 12:17 (5,901 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I think it's even newer than 1976. IIRC in 1976 they were still using the panels that had various combos of green and rust with gold on the timer dial and simulated woodgrain for the right and left sides of the panel. The black panels came along towards the end of 70's but can't say exactly when.

Post# 267025 , Reply# 9   2/28/2008 at 12:38 (5,901 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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When I saw the first pic, before reading any of the responses, my thoughts were early 1980s. What's the serial number?

Post# 267033 , Reply# 10   2/28/2008 at 13:26 (5,901 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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All, and especially to Toploader....

The folks who said that dryer was newer than a '72 are correct. That panel design first debuted in fall of '75 as '76 models on at least 7 or 8 different models. They were made like that essentially unrevised in appearance until 1981 when the print style was changed but not the panel itself. The earliest washer I ever ever worked on with that panel was made in October 1975.

Here's maybe some good news for you Toploader: I have two white matches to your dryer and they need good homes. One is a 1977 model (which is great because they had the tall centerpost still) and the other is a 1980 model. Both are nearly identical except the '77 has a Penta-vane agi and the '80 has a DA. They both have 2.95 cu. ft tubs vs. your DD washer's 2.4 or 2.5. Both are 2-speed, 4-cycle (Normal, Perm Press, Delicate and Pre-wash), three levels and temps - basically about what you have in your current washer.

Neither have been used in many years, but have been in indoor storage. One I got from Sears when they were giving me and my buddy all their haul-backs, and the other was a neighbor's who was thrilled to give it to me when she replaced her dryer and got a whole set.

Because of the enjoyment I've gleaned from this site the last month or so, I have gone nuts with my washer fascination (which had been dormant other than doing my own laundry) since the later 90s. I will be trying to find good homes for all the belt-drives I have and would love for one of the newer models like these to go to someone who'd appreciate it.

It may be very wrong of me to post this suggestion here, and if so, I apologize. I don't normally suggest to people that they get my stuff. If you want, you can send me an e-mail and I can tell you more about what I have. I am not quite ready to start working on these yet, as it's still chilly here in Charlotte (it was in the upper teens last night) so my garage floor would give me a quick case of "numb-butt", LOL. However, once it warms up I would be glad to help you find a washer you're happy with that should last you a good while even as a daily driver...and you'll know it's been lovingly looked at by someone who cares.

TTFN everyone - enjoy the day!


Post# 267034 , Reply# 11   2/28/2008 at 13:59 (5,901 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
Actually....

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Upon closer examination of your pics - I realize that my second dryer is that model, or very similar to it.

I bought it originally for my sister (who is somewhat hard on stuff) when she got out of college. She asked me if she could borrow my nearly new and cherished three year old 1986 Kenmores since they were in storage at the time. I essentially said "NFW" but felt guilty, so I bought her a rebuilt 1979 washer from one guy and the dryer from another. The guy I got my dryer from became a quick friend of mine, and was my mentor in helping me over some getting-started hurdles with belt-drive repair and rebuilding. I essentially owe years of fun and enjoyment and a good friendship to that dryer I bought from him.

My sister was done with it in late 2000, after 11 years of use, and not wanting it to go bye-bye, I put it in my storage building. Last summer I got it out because my new house was built to my spec with two w/d hookups. I'm using that dryer again alongside my 1985 belt-drive that I basically assembled out of used parts that were too good to throw away but used enough that I didn't want to warranty them in a washer I sold someone. I've put a new thermostat, new rollers and an idler in it - it hums now like new.

The grumbling you hear in the timer is common in dryers of this era and is simply the clock part of the timer churning away. They don't make that noise from the factory, but do once they get some miles on them. I don't think it's anything to worry about, however the timer was still available from WP last time I checked.

My dryer is a 1976 model (60 series) made in late 1977. Yours is probably of similar vintage.

G


Post# 267041 , Reply# 12   2/28/2008 at 14:44 (5,901 days old) by toggleswitch1 ()        
She drove a Pymouth Satelite at the speed of light.

Nice catch!

Perhaps a dual-action cork-screw agitator would reduce the effects of that ridiculousness that is a short arc and rapid speed........


Post# 267045 , Reply# 13   2/28/2008 at 14:52 (5,901 days old) by funguy10 ()        

GASP!! That washer was our same old washer which I can now see is 1972 dated! What is its model number?

Post# 267046 , Reply# 14   2/28/2008 at 14:53 (5,901 days old) by funguy10 ()        

O.K. Ours had 3 water level settings and had a Dual-Action Agitator.

Post# 267055 , Reply# 15   2/28/2008 at 15:22 (5,901 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Hey Toggle

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Nice B52's verse.

Post# 267061 , Reply# 16   2/28/2008 at 15:37 (5,901 days old) by toggleswitch1 ()        

he he !

Post# 267076 , Reply# 17   2/28/2008 at 16:44 (5,901 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Part of the problemm with the "beating" of the clothes in that particular DD blender is the tub height and diameter. That is the medium sized tub - the effects of that transmission, at least I think, are less pronounced in a super capacity model that is wider but not any taller. Clothes have more room to spread out and get away from those spastic vanes.



Post# 267077 , Reply# 18   2/28/2008 at 16:47 (5,901 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
You asked about the model number

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The model numbers of the two I have are: 110.72774110 and 110.72980100. The first is a 70 series, and the second is an 80, but both are essentially the same, one a 77 model and the other a 79.

The 79 has "ENERGY SAVER" over the temp and level selectors as I guess this become a late 70s/80s buzz word.


Post# 267087 , Reply# 19   2/28/2008 at 17:07 (5,901 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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That washer is a direct drive, a lot newer than 1972.

Post# 267146 , Reply# 20   2/28/2008 at 21:45 (5,901 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

That washer at earliest a 1988 or 89 model. That was when the tub perforations started going all the way to the top. Before that they only were around the lower half, or 2/3 of the tub.

As far as the dryer, by 1974 the first and third digits after the 110 were being used to decode the year of manufacture, whereas previously it had always been the first and second. For some reason a lot of these models had a 2 as the second digit, so quite a few mid 70s models were thought to be 1972 models. I can tell this dryer is a 76 model or newer by the design. The interesting thing is that the first and second numbers reflect this, not the first and third. I know of models before and after this one that used the first and third numbers after the 110 to determine the model year. Were there exceptions made in the 70s lineups, or did Whirlpool/Sears go back and forth in how to number their machines?

Just when I thought I had it figured out.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 267162 , Reply# 21   2/29/2008 at 00:34 (5,901 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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James -

The 2 in the second model number digit is for 29-inch washers. A 1 is for 24-inch machines. On dryers, the second digit is a 6 or 7 - 6 being electric and 7 being gas. First and third digit being decade and year, as you said. That is of model issuance, not necessarily manufacture.


Post# 267379 , Reply# 22   3/1/2008 at 06:36 (5,900 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Kenmoreguy

Thank you for explaining what the numbers mean. However, as far as this dryer is concerned, I am still confused. According to the model number given above, The first and third digits are 7 and 0 which by decoding would mean this dryer is a 1970 model. But again this is clearly not a model issued that year.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 267401 , Reply# 23   3/1/2008 at 10:09 (5,899 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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James -

My guess is that there's still an error in the model number listed here, as it doesn't come up as-is with Sears. I have a dryer that appears to be just like that one, and it's number is 110.76860100.

I'm thinking that there is tranposition or a difficult to read digit in the number that Toggleswitch supplied. I might bet a couple bucks that the model number is 110.76960130.

Here is my rationale: My model number catalog from Whirlpool lists three essentially similar dryers, all that use the black and woodgrain console, and the same 4-cycle timer (which is not set-up for automatic thermostat or moisture sensing drying). One is a 76 model, the second a 78 which I have and the third a 79. The '79 is the only one that had any mechanical revisions, which is what the "30" means at the end of the number. The '79 had in fact three revisions and 110.76960130 is a good model number. I think Toggle got a couple digits transposed.

If so, that means he has a 1979 model dryer. That model, having so many revisions, may have survived in production well into 1980 or 1981.


Post# 267402 , Reply# 24   3/1/2008 at 10:12 (5,899 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
Here's the pic of mine

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I bought this dryer used in 1989. I am no photographer. :-)

Post# 267405 , Reply# 25   3/1/2008 at 10:39 (5,899 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Wow

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Look's like we have the same machine
Here's the Model Number again : 110 76960130


Post# 267408 , Reply# 26   3/1/2008 at 11:15 (5,899 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
KEWL

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Too cool Toggle! If you look closely at our panels, there are a couple subtle print differences (why Sears would bother is beyond me), but they are definitely near clones.

I owe a lot to that dryer actually. I bought it from a servicer/rebuilder who I found in the newspaper in 1989 for my sister and her first apartment. The guy was really nice and seemed to enjoy my enthusiasm for appliances. We made an instant friendship and he was a conduit for me to get into repairs/rebuilding that I had always wanted to delve into. Had I not bought that dryer, I would never have been able to have the fun I did with 50+ rebuilds over the next years.

When my sister was done with the dryer in 2000, I had to have it back. It got all the way to the Salvation Army main depot before I could retrieve it and the washer. Last summer I pulled it from storage. Its in my garage using a connection that was meant for it. I love it out there because in a hot southern summer, I don't have to run the house dryer, which helps my a/c bill.

Since installing it, I have had to give it a new thermostat, and I treated it to new rollers, belt and Idler. She "cadillacs" now as my buddy likes to say.


Post# 267547 , Reply# 27   3/2/2008 at 02:11 (5,899 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Kenmoreguy64

Thank you again for explaining the model numbers to me. After I posted that last message, I figured as you did that it was a matter of how the numbers were transposed, and the third digit was probably supposed to be a 9 making it a 1979 model.

My head is clear and the sky is blue once again. LOL.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 267790 , Reply# 28   3/3/2008 at 21:08 (5,897 days old) by magic clean ()        
The

serial number tells the true date of manufacture in year and week format.

The dryer serial number starts with M then a numeral probably 6 meaning 1976 and then two numbers that are the week of the year. I.E. m630. The 30th week of 1976.


Post# 267835 , Reply# 29   3/4/2008 at 10:05 (5,896 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Dryers in the 70s were also made at the Findlay, Ohio plant, so the serial started with F. I believe that plant makes dishwashers now and has for some time. M is the Marion, Ohio plant.


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