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Post# 272327   3/26/2008 at 19:34 (3,764 days old) by lasvegasrox ()        

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Post# 272337 , Reply# 1   3/26/2008 at 21:35 (3,764 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Great marketing.
Great ad!

I'm still not convinced effective quick washing occurs "without" water!

Give me a good old-fashioned water-hog any day!

Post# 272342 , Reply# 2   3/26/2008 at 22:03 (3,764 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Kenmore elete!

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I had checked over the instruction booklet on this machine. What dissappointed me was when you select hi-temp wash the max temp is 120 and not 140. Also all cycles are expected to run at Least 2 hours. And finally their is a special cycle called one hour wash which is supposed to be the shortest and that runs 1 1/2 hours with drying. (You call that short)
They go with so much BS just to save water and now it's just a matter of development insanity. I hope that whirlpool doesn't put out this model. I agree with Toggles - give me a water hog?

Post# 272345 , Reply# 3   3/26/2008 at 22:15 (3,764 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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The music was a bit annoying after a while, but probably proven to excite the viewer. You have to admit, the vids of the washing action were cool. Reviews and reports seem to support the claims of Sears so far.

Post# 272347 , Reply# 4   3/26/2008 at 22:17 (3,764 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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Bosch clone with turbo jets.....

Post# 272357 , Reply# 5   3/27/2008 at 00:55 (3,764 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
WP-Euro clone

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There is a strong resemblance to a Bosch, but it's actually based on the European Whirlpool design. I've seen this at Sears and it looks very nice, but I'll wait for the model with the water softener, coming in the not to distance future - probably not long before the phosphates are removed from d/w detergents in 2010...

Post# 272373 , Reply# 6   3/27/2008 at 07:09 (3,764 days old) by vulcanchef ()        

does it come with strobe lights ?

Post# 272376 , Reply# 7   3/27/2008 at 07:40 (3,764 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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But I wouldn't mind two xenon (sp?) lights and a fan-forced dry!

Post# 272377 , Reply# 8   3/27/2008 at 07:51 (3,764 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

Since I have a Bosch dsihwasher myself, I can say that the upper sprayarm is very similar to mine, but minde does not have those red points on it.
But great video and nice washing action.

Post# 272385 , Reply# 9   3/27/2008 at 11:09 (3,764 days old) by rpm ()        

Kinda cool video but I thought it ran 30 seconds too long.
Does anyone have the turbo zone and if so does it make much difference?
I think I read in the consumers magazine that the smart wash wasn't any better at sensing and cleaning your dishes than if you had just chose a cycle yourself.
I think they ran the dishwasher empty and it still sensed to change the water the same amount of times as it would have if you chose the short cycle.
Could be wrong.
I still think the cycle runs way too long. But that might be inspiration to have longer conversations at your dinner parties.
No one can leave the table till the dishwasher is finished the first load.

Post# 272396 , Reply# 10   3/27/2008 at 12:17 (3,764 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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The wash action was informative (and shows just how little water is running around that sump). I'm not opposed to the idea--I'm sure it works.

I wondered how they dealt with only running one wash arm at a time, and it's interesting to see the downward-pointing jets on the middle wash arm that undoubtedly help shoo food bits off the bottom-rack dishes as the top rack is being washed. I was keen on seeing how they kept particulates moving downward in a system that could not fill the entire tank with a maelstrom of water.


I'm still keeping my KUDI22, though :-)

Post# 272431 , Reply# 11   3/27/2008 at 16:10 (3,764 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

How much water does this machine use per wash?

Post# 272440 , Reply# 12   3/27/2008 at 17:00 (3,763 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Wasn't it something like

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...5 cups per fill?

Post# 272448 , Reply# 13   3/27/2008 at 17:47 (3,763 days old) by magic clean ()        

charge per fill is:

1.2 gallons or 4.5 litres. 4-5 gallons per cycle. The spray arms alternate.

Whether or not we agree with the federal requirements, the water and energy savings mandates are here to stay.

Post# 272451 , Reply# 14   3/27/2008 at 17:53 (3,763 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Thanks guys, I tought it used less water. 4 gallons is around 15 L and 5 is around 19 L, it seems normal usage to me, not too less nor too much

Post# 272460 , Reply# 15   3/27/2008 at 19:09 (3,763 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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I'll take my KD2-P,70 Mobile maid,KDS-18,Oops sorry I had to count or my Kenwhirl anyday. I alternate these machines after I run one of them, and they're all magnificent.Regardless of water use.

Post# 272467 , Reply# 16   3/27/2008 at 19:57 (3,763 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

4-5 gallons per cycle? Why, that's an absolute water-hog compared to this Asko machine, which uses about 3 gallons per normal cycle. It's also rated very high by That Consumer Magazine Everyone Loves To Hate.

Post# 272473 , Reply# 17   3/27/2008 at 20:23 (3,763 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The above link doesn't work for me. :-(

Post# 272489 , Reply# 18   3/27/2008 at 21:45 (3,763 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Pretty soon you'll spit in the detergent cup three times

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Wasn't it something like
...5 cups per fill?

6, at least! LOL LOL LOL

Post# 272505 , Reply# 19   3/27/2008 at 23:01 (3,763 days old) by rpm ()        

Is this the same couple from the picture of the day?
If it is something went horribly wrong on the 366th day

Post# 272534 , Reply# 20   3/28/2008 at 07:05 (3,763 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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yes, sigh I "lifted" the pic. Hope that is ok!

Post# 272567 , Reply# 21   3/28/2008 at 11:50 (3,763 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        

I wish I could get my hands on one. If it saves me money on water, electricity and does the same job YES PLEASE!!!

Post# 272572 , Reply# 22   3/28/2008 at 12:12 (3,763 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
..and that is a MIGHTY big if!

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Just remember, "IF" is the biggest word in the English language!

Post# 272587 , Reply# 23   3/28/2008 at 13:32 (3,763 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        
My Kenmore Elite Manual (Non Bosch Version)

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Post# 272588 , Reply# 24   3/28/2008 at 13:33 (3,763 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        
My Kenmore Elite Manual (Non Bosch Version)

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Vista is a BITCH to resize photos!!!

Post# 272724 , Reply# 25   3/29/2008 at 00:12 (3,762 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
For Toggles

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Betch! :-)

Post# 272739 , Reply# 26   3/29/2008 at 01:18 (3,762 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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What the hell was that!?
That's the best damn dishwasher ad I've EVER seen.
Impressive machine.
Looks like 2hrs is the new cycle time.

Post# 272773 , Reply# 27   3/29/2008 at 08:40 (3,762 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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That, my dear, is a real fruity "See-You-Next-Tuesday" BEE-ATCH wanna-be designer.

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Post# 272774 , Reply# 28   3/29/2008 at 08:50 (3,762 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
A purge is NOT a rinse

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Did anyone notice the "game" employed of renaming the "purge" a pre-rinse?

sneaky sneaky sneaky.

Post# 272964 , Reply# 29   3/30/2008 at 13:28 (3,761 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Just Junked

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I just junked a Kenmore Elite w/ Smartwash dishwasher. It died just 5 year and 2 months into its life. Requiring over $400 in parts to repair it. So, to the curb it went and a Bosch was brought in. Much better dishwasher than the Kenmore. Love the 30 minute cycle.


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