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Electrolux and Simpson water saving top loaders
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Post# 274104   4/7/2008 at 00:28 (3,537 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

Has any of our Aussie members seen these machines yet? I am very impressed. They look and feel nice in the store, and, amazingly, use a full tub of water to wash. Like the old Simpson fluid drives, its tub is largely solid and the water that escapes through the few drain holes is pumped back in.

It then does 5 shower rinses with the option of a deep rinse if so desired. I think that with the few holes in the tub even the shower rinses would be more effective as the water should have some time to really soak into the clothes.

I wonder if Electrolux plans to adapt this system for other top loading markets?

The Electrolux website has a demonstration of how their system works.


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Post# 274105 , Reply# 1   4/7/2008 at 00:29 (3,537 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Simpson

I managed to take a picture of the Simpson version so you can all have a closer look.

Post# 274106 , Reply# 2   4/7/2008 at 00:31 (3,537 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Money shot.

I think the tub looks really nice. Only thing that I could fault about the Simpson version is that some Chrome would be nice - my Fluid Drive is full of Chrome.

Post# 274218 , Reply# 3   4/7/2008 at 22:36 (3,536 days old) by shanonabc ()        

Honestly... They do have elegant styling like all Electrolux machines... But I am not overly impressed with it...

Post# 274231 , Reply# 4   4/8/2008 at 01:31 (3,536 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

Shannon, following up your comments here from the other thread. What I like about this machine is it keeps the agitator and the full fill but no wasted water in the outer tub. I guess that makes things easier for people who are hesitant about changing from a conventional washer. Although I was hoping for a new agitator design.

A pure solid tub would be fun of course, but to have such a capacity it would not be possible, it would require a huge outer cabinet and motor power to throw the water over the top. Solid tubs work when smaller and that wont work in the showroom these days.

Well its horses for courses I really like this machine more than the Fisher and Paykel. It will be interesting to see how they compete with each other for sales.


Post# 274236 , Reply# 5   4/8/2008 at 04:57 (3,536 days old) by shanonabc ()        

I sotally agree

Post# 274264 , Reply# 6   4/8/2008 at 09:39 (3,536 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
reminds me of a big GE mini-basket

Interesting concept for lowering water usage in the wash cycle...sort of borrowed from the GE mini-basket. An almost solid tub with just a few holes to let a small amount of water escape which is recirculated back into the tub. It doesn't look like it has any holes in the bottom of the tub. I wonder how it does in sand disposal.

Post# 274335 , Reply# 7   4/8/2008 at 21:40 (3,535 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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So basically what we have here is a quasi solid tub washer, with load sensing, recirculating water and a series of spray rinses to save water. Exactly the sort of top loading washing machine I and others spoke about in the posting about making top loading washers that would be water efficient enough to satisify US mandates.

Would be interesting to see if the unit can meet Energy Star guidelines.



Post# 274339 , Reply# 8   4/8/2008 at 21:57 (3,535 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

Laundress, the 9.5 Kg version of this machine uses 98 litres of water while the 8 kg uses 82. The 9.5 drum is very large. Larger than the drum of a large size DD Whirlpool.

Apparently to qualify for 4 star water effiency (at which point you get cash back from the water board) a machine must use around 10 litres of water per kilo.

It is interesting that LG has its large turbo drum direct drive machine on the market for some years now claiming it to be 8.5kg capacity, now it is 10 kg claimed capacity though it looks no bigger than before, but now operates in the fashion of the Harmony. It uses 103 litres according to its sticker so they have made the capacity to fit the water rating. LG always strikes me as dodgy and this only makes the Simpson/Electrolux more impressive to me.

Rich,

It is very much like a mini basket I hadn't thought of it like that. It does have very small holes in the bottom. Funny but sand removal has never been used as an advertising feature in Australia nor has our consumer magazine, Choice, ever made an issue of it when testing washing machines. For a long time Simpson machines never had a row of holes in the tub at the bottom.


Post# 274574 , Reply# 9   4/10/2008 at 17:56 (3,533 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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Wonder if Electrolux has any plans to bring a topload washer line to the US.

MRB





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