Thread Number: 18681
New for 1956! Imperial Unimatic by Frigidaire |
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Post# 302855   9/10/2008 at 21:16 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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I think this may be one of the first times that I've brought home a washer that I've never seen before in person. What I mean is, I've never seen a 1956 Imperial Frigidaire washer before in person. I always thought they looked cool from the few photographs that have surfaced over the years here at automaticwasher.org, but it seems to be the read-headed step child of the Unimatics. We've seen plenty of WO-65 machines, quite a few control control towers, a 55 set here and there, some showing of the early WA machines, and the elusive Custom Imperial, new for 1958. Either the buying public did not generate enough enthuiasm around the pink trim, or by chance this one off model year made it to the crusher more often than it's siblings. I've always been the kind of person to root for the little guy, so when I saw this WI-56 come up for auction, I thought what a great washer to bring home and have around as a project. (I will say it now, for those who will ask, I was not able to retrieve the dryer. It has found a new home in applianceville heaven). I could tell from the photos that it would need some work in the tub, and it also appears there will be some fun work on the mechanism as well. So - without further adieu, here she is! First up - as seen from my front door. I think we'll be seeing - and using - a lot more of these crates in the next few years here at aw.org!! Fresh from the DFW area. |
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Post# 302856 , Reply# 1   9/10/2008 at 21:17 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302857 , Reply# 2   9/10/2008 at 21:19 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302858 , Reply# 3   9/10/2008 at 21:19 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302859 , Reply# 4   9/10/2008 at 21:21 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302860 , Reply# 5   9/10/2008 at 21:22 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302862 , Reply# 6   9/10/2008 at 21:23 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302863 , Reply# 7   9/10/2008 at 21:24 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302865 , Reply# 8   9/10/2008 at 21:25 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302868 , Reply# 9   9/10/2008 at 21:27 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302869 , Reply# 10   9/10/2008 at 21:27 (5,707 days old) by a440 ()   |   | |
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Very nice! |
Post# 302870 , Reply# 11   9/10/2008 at 21:28 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302872 , Reply# 12   9/10/2008 at 21:29 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302873 , Reply# 13   9/10/2008 at 21:29 (5,707 days old) by rickr (.)   |   | |
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Post# 302874 , Reply# 14   9/10/2008 at 21:30 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302876 , Reply# 15   9/10/2008 at 21:31 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302879 , Reply# 16   9/10/2008 at 21:32 (5,707 days old) by rickr (.)   |   | |
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Post# 302880 , Reply# 17   9/10/2008 at 21:33 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302883 , Reply# 18   9/10/2008 at 21:34 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302884 , Reply# 19   9/10/2008 at 21:35 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302885 , Reply# 20   9/10/2008 at 21:36 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302887 , Reply# 21   9/10/2008 at 21:37 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302888 , Reply# 22   9/10/2008 at 21:38 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302889 , Reply# 23   9/10/2008 at 21:39 (5,707 days old) by tagfan75 ()   |   | |
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Congrats!! A great find...and in such good shape for its age. Will be a real beauty when she's done! I know your Unimatic has to be glad to have some company now...lol! |
Post# 302891 , Reply# 24   9/10/2008 at 21:40 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302893 , Reply# 25   9/10/2008 at 21:43 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302895 , Reply# 26   9/10/2008 at 21:45 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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with the back panel removed. Everything seems to be in good shape up here, and the timer seems to be advancing just fine. The linkage to the escapement is nice and loose, so I imagine that it is jamming up somewhere prior to. This girl will need a complete resto! And I'm looking forward to it ;-) LOOK - WE HAVE LIGHTS, two of them! |
Post# 302897 , Reply# 27   9/10/2008 at 21:48 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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After scrubbing on the bizarre hole in the tub for about five minutes, this is what I was able to get it to look like. So, I'm interested to hear what you guys think caused this. A manufacturing defect? A hex? A sour piece of candy? Had to be something! As soon as I get time in the next few months, I'll start to dig into it. Till then, enjoy the photos! |
Post# 302899 , Reply# 28   9/10/2008 at 21:50 (5,707 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 302915 , Reply# 31   9/10/2008 at 22:28 (5,707 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 302951 , Reply# 33   9/11/2008 at 00:22 (5,706 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 302952 , Reply# 34   9/11/2008 at 00:23 (5,706 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)   |   | |
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I bet you'll have it back on line in a jiffy. Perhaps a dol- lop of some very caustic residue stuck fast in the tub ; maybe some thing heavy and sharp got dropped in, or a manufacture on a Monday or Friday! It is a beautiful red-headed step child! Con grats.. |
Post# 302953 , Reply# 35   9/11/2008 at 00:46 (5,706 days old) by jetaction (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 302959 , Reply# 36   9/11/2008 at 02:39 (5,706 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 302963 , Reply# 37   9/11/2008 at 03:32 (5,706 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)   |   | |
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Post# 302991 , Reply# 39   9/11/2008 at 08:36 (5,706 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)   |   | |
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Yay Ben, Glad you got her! Maybe your pictures will help me when you tear her apart! LOL! |
Post# 302997 , Reply# 40   9/11/2008 at 09:09 (5,706 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Ben that is super cool, what a beautiful machine. I bet the capacitor will be just fine, I've only seen one bad one in a Unimatic, that was in my '47 Unimatic. Now put some hot water down the drain hose and start him up. Let it agitate a few minutes to get the oil pump pumping oil up to the spin bearing and put it into spin, if he purrs he's ready to wash, if he roars well then you have some work to do :-). To patch the tub I would pull out the tub and use Plumbers Epoxy to seal below the hole and as Steve recommended a good coating of JB-Weld from above. |
Post# 303113 , Reply# 42   9/11/2008 at 19:47 (5,706 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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It looks beautiful! Can you see the agitator going up and down when you turn the tub? If you can't turn the fan/motor shaft, you may not get far testing it. Hot water in the pump may free up the seal and you could be good to go. Perhaps we need to have another Unimatic weekend? Get those lab coats pressed! |
Post# 303135 , Reply# 43   9/11/2008 at 21:18 (5,706 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)   |   | |
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hell, everybody in that old photo still has hair. |
Post# 303138 , Reply# 44   9/11/2008 at 21:30 (5,706 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 303140 , Reply# 45   9/11/2008 at 21:35 (5,706 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)   |   | |
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the Diet Coke likely ate the bottom out of the old one long ago. You can believe the stuff is still flowing though----- bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. |
Post# 303144 , Reply# 46   9/11/2008 at 21:42 (5,706 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Can you see the agitator going up and down when you turn the tub? Yes, if I would spin the tub, the pulsator would go up and down. I decided to take the plunge and took Robert's advice tonight. Unfortunately the original drain hoses were not in great shape. I trimmed down the hose from the pump outlet to the garden hose connector to at least allow water to travel through it for this test. I then cut the petrified drain hose to about 3 feet long, and poured about 16 ounces of HOT water into the pump. Then I placed the original drain hook in the hose and set the bucket underneath. I let it sit for about 10 minutes, did a few hail marry's - and plugged her in. The first pass the motor was locked up. Waited 20 seconds, tried again - still locked up. I thought I'd give it a third shot, and BAM, I heard some garbling! I looked in the bucket that I had placed under the remaining 3 feet of water and saw some nasty gunk that had flown out. The mechanism had worked itself free! I then cut the threaded end off of a bad inlet hose, and stuck it along the backside of the wash tub so I could pour some hot water in the outer tub. I got about 2 gallons processed and the pump was flowing out clear water. Then came time for a spin test. Engaged the spin, could hear the solenoid engage, and .... nothing. The machine continued to agitate and the was just coasting at a snails pace - hardly 1140 RPM. What does this mean, to those who might not be quite 100 percent about the Unimatic mechanism? Let's find out from the Frigidaire doctrine. |
Post# 303148 , Reply# 47   9/11/2008 at 21:47 (5,706 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Rats - the clutch torque spring is probably broken. When I engage the trip I can hear a rattle inside the mechanism, probably the broken segments just laughing at me inside. I should take back my statement of thinking that I was the first to pull things apart. I could see some orange RTV around the drain plug tonight, which leads me to believe that someone has been inside of it before. So, I've got some parts to start gathering up. Probably could use a new carbon seal for the pump, new clutch spring, and may as well put a new bearing in it if I'm going to have it apart. One of those is easy - the other two hard. The only lead I have on parts for Frigidaire lost EVERYTHING in the Floods that happened back in June. I will go back to beg and plead to go through the stuff to see if I can find anything. Otherwise, she'll be a pretty show piece while I go searching for the parts. Until then - Ben |
Post# 303178 , Reply# 48   9/11/2008 at 22:32 (5,705 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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How cool that the '56 has LIGHTS. The Blackstone uses the same kind of Christmas tree lights. Just think you can change them for any holiday--green for Saint Paddy's, red for Valentine's, etc. Jon put Halloween orange in the Blackstone. Good luck on the parts, Buddy, and with your Karma--hey--a piece of cake. |
Post# 303185 , Reply# 49   9/11/2008 at 23:12 (5,705 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 303231 , Reply# 50   9/12/2008 at 08:31 (5,705 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)   |   | |
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Ben ... will it be almost impossible to find that clutch torque spring? Well ... at least you know what the problem is. You love a good challenge, don't you? :-) |
Post# 303233 , Reply# 51   9/12/2008 at 08:50 (5,705 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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... will it be almost impossible to find that clutch torque spring? I think if I cross my arms in front of me, and nod my head down real fast, one will magically appear in front of me ;-) You love a good challenge, don't you? Life just wouldn't be fun without them. I love Robert's message. I'll make sure to remove and bring the mechanism to the 'shop', which is about 20 feet away ;-) |
Post# 303315 , Reply# 52   9/12/2008 at 17:52 (5,705 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 303316 , Reply# 53   9/12/2008 at 17:54 (5,705 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 303422 , Reply# 54   9/13/2008 at 10:55 (5,704 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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What does the little white button do on the water level control? |
Post# 303426 , Reply# 55   9/13/2008 at 12:26 (5,704 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 303561 , Reply# 56   9/14/2008 at 13:38 (5,703 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)   |   | |
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Post# 303630 , Reply# 57   9/14/2008 at 19:42 (5,703 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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I got a little antsy Friday afternoon before going out (since I was at a good stopping point on house work), and found myself digging into the '56 for no apparent reason. With all the Unimatic fun that is going on this month, I thought I'd provide more for the fun! Top off. I was very relieved to find that the gasket is in superb shape. Not to say that was the same fate of the fill hose. Mind you, this was as far as I wanted to go. |
Post# 303632 , Reply# 58   9/14/2008 at 19:43 (5,703 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 303636 , Reply# 61   9/14/2008 at 19:46 (5,703 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 303640 , Reply# 64   9/14/2008 at 19:50 (5,703 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 303642 , Reply# 65   9/14/2008 at 19:52 (5,703 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 303643 , Reply# 66   9/14/2008 at 19:52 (5,703 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 303645 , Reply# 67   9/14/2008 at 19:56 (5,703 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Yesterday I removed the mechanism nut and seal - and soaked the mechanism support. It is pristine and should last quite a few more years. Yay for 1140 RPM's!! The bench testing went well, and certainly will need a new clutch spring. I took some video so if anyone wants me to post the video of the bench testing, let me know. Well gang, this is as far as I am going to take it for now. Once the restoration begins, I'll start a new thread (give it a few weeks/months). Be careful with those spells - you might just get stung! OUCH! Ben |
Post# 303754 , Reply# 68   9/15/2008 at 13:23 (5,702 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 303759 , Reply# 69   9/15/2008 at 13:41 (5,702 days old) by tuthill ()   |   | |
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Wow Ben, you already got the mechanism out! I don't think it will be too hard for you to find a torque spring ;) |
Post# 303850 , Reply# 70   9/15/2008 at 19:38 (5,702 days old) by drmitch ()   |   | |
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Beautiful machine, I hope it turns out ok! |
Post# 303907 , Reply# 71   9/15/2008 at 22:44 (5,701 days old) by rickr (.)   |   | |
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Damn!! You got that out of there in no time Ben! If my 57 needs service, I will know who to call. <: I hate a dirty tub, so I am with you on that. Also hate stinky washers! I will not put a machine into service at my house without cleaning the outer tub out. Lord knows what may be molding in there..... Thanks for the cool pixs! You will have that up in running in no time. Just remember to close your eyes when you cross your arms and nod for that torque spring. <: |