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Post# 308024 10/6/2008 at 19:29 (5,680 days old) by jetcone  (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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beats up Artey's blanket! BOY DID IT GET CLEAN THOUGH! I should have made before and after pictures!! Knock on any Norge!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO jetcone's LINK | ||
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Post# 308026 , Reply# 1 10/6/2008 at 19:43 (5,680 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 308028 , Reply# 2 10/6/2008 at 19:46 (5,680 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Gene | ||
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Post# 308039 , Reply# 4 10/6/2008 at 20:44 (5,679 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Boy oh boy!! That filter pan looks almost exactly like our's did toward the end of the machine's 6 year existence at our house. In fact, chipped in the same place lol. But the color of the pan was exactly the same as ours. Monkey Ward's version was grey and wasn't quite as big. Now I gotta admit, I never considered that machine a pig. DD Whirlpool products wrere the only pigs I've ever considered. I usually cleaned the filter after each load but many times I wated for two or 3 loads. I know there were times when I would do certain types of loads (but I can't remember exactly what they consisted of) that the filter pan would get completely full of lint by the end of the rinse andthe water would just go over the sides. The lady across the street only used her machine on medium and the loads were such that the clothes usually didn't circulate, but basically went back & forth with the washer. The washer replaced the L1000 Westy like you have Jon. Her dryer was a frog-eyed with the sun-burst looking dial just like the washer version you have. So, that's why she did medium size loads in the Monkey Wards, try to match load size. I think she got her machine the summer before we got ours. anyway, when we got ours, I figured I'd do 1/2 loads to match the dryer (still a non-lighted Norge Timeline with no temp knob). My insisted a full load was to be washed and then split in to 2 loads for the dryer. We did this until February when the matching WrinkleOut dryer arrived on the tailgate door of the 1960 Kingtwood Estate Chevy Wagon lol. My dad had a customer who was a Norge distributor so dad got a good "deal". I remember him bringinng the sales brochure home for my mom to look at and for me to also. I vividly remember seeing the exact washer you have Jon. I think there was one more model between the model you have Jon and the TOL DispensoMat we ended up with. I think the auto dispensers was the only reason why my mom wanted the machine--so she wouldn't have to go back and add softner and bleach to the old GE (non-FF that looks just like the one you grew up with Jon). Our panel was more at an angle--exactly just like what Ben's 68 or 69 Moneky Wards tap & wash model. The model next up from yours may have had that same angled panel, but I don't remember. The lady across the street ended up replacing her 64 model with a near TOL Wards burper that had an ex-low agitation speed. My mom referred to this one as a Thrashing Machine--I think by then we had the Kenmore 800. So now, I'm wondering if the replacement tranny that's in your machine is more from that vintage, which would have had an even more aggressive agitation--resulting in what you see because I don't remember ours being quite as aggressive and water so intensely sloshing around the tub on high like you had in the previous video. Incidentally, that med. water level is exactly where our medium level +1 one dot was. We had a sliding varial water level lever. Medium resulted in more splashing and noise. Toward the end of the machine's life due to my abuse beccause I hated the washer, any water level which resulted in quite a bit of splashing that went over the top of the tub shell on top, ended up on the floor and trickling down the wall and into the breakfast room via the door. So the mom ended up putting a towel in the front right corner on the floor lol.
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Post# 308040 , Reply# 5 10/6/2008 at 20:47 (5,679 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Eugene, yes the agitation is substantially faster. We used a Norge Cleaning Village equipped with TimeLines before the new Norge arrived--the GE was leaking at some copper tubing in the fill mechanism and mom had been wanting a far more modern machine for a while and this gave her to perfect opp. to put the heat on my dad I spoze lol. Anyway, I hadn't seen a timeline work until the 2001 convention--all those 38 years. And when I saw it work, I thought it was so anemic and pathetic, wondering if it could clean anything when loaded to its full capacity.
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Post# 308042 , Reply# 6 10/6/2008 at 21:07 (5,679 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Here ya go Bob | ||
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Post# 308043 , Reply# 7 10/6/2008 at 21:08 (5,679 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Bob-shot ot timer | ||
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Post# 308045 , Reply# 8 10/6/2008 at 21:10 (5,679 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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see here is the bizarre under skirt | ||
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Post# 308046 , Reply# 9 10/6/2008 at 21:18 (5,679 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Jon, I am wondering if that is the case with the exposed tranny. I think trannys were the major failure for these machiknes if I remember right. Jon, thanks for the timer shot. Can you make out what the wash times are for Gentle? The Monkey Wards across the street had a speed setting knob, wasn't timer dependent. The same cycle ssegment was called short wash and had 1 or 3 minute settings. The number for the fragile washables cycle button and corresponnding number on the timer dial was a 3 minute wash. Needless to say, I never matched cycle button muber with timer wash time setting. I set my own time.
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| Post# 308055 , Reply# 10 10/6/2008 at 21:45 (5,679 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Gee Jon, Dirt doesn't stand a chance with that Norge!! Loved the video, thanks for sharing. | ||
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Post# 308058 , Reply# 11 10/6/2008 at 21:58 (5,679 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 308059 , Reply# 12 10/6/2008 at 22:00 (5,679 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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| Post# 308063 , Reply# 13 10/6/2008 at 22:12 (5,679 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
Your 64 Norge looks a lot like the 69 Monkey Wards!
Hey Jon, does that motor pivot back and forth on a slide from agitate to spin? If so, I think that machine may have the same setup as my 69 Monkey Norge.It has the fast agitation as the later Norges and MW models.The same tub ring, ect. I think that the skirt acts as a shield for the rotating transmition, plus as a support for the entire tub/and transmition. Thats a very cool looking machine Jon! Thanks for posting the pixs and videos! 
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| Post# 308064 , Reply# 14 10/6/2008 at 22:16 (5,679 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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69 Wards | ||
| Post# 308065 , Reply# 15 10/6/2008 at 22:18 (5,679 days old) by tuthill () | ||
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Gol I want a big ol Norge!!! This is great guys, keep it coming. | ||
| Post# 308067 , Reply# 16 10/6/2008 at 22:26 (5,679 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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bottom showing motor pivot | ||
| Post# 308090 , Reply# 17 10/7/2008 at 02:26 (5,679 days old) by fredfred9633 () | ||
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wow whackin the dirt out of that blanket | ||
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Post# 308108 , Reply# 19 10/7/2008 at 08:27 (5,679 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Rick
The motor on this machine is setup exactly like your machine. But isn't it fascinating the difference in the snubber. I have 4 large snubbing plates on each corner of the machine, but I can't see the snubber on your machine, how does it snub? Does it just have the four springs?? You could be right about the skirt it may just be a dry shield. Robert is going to doctrine to see if there is any literature on this machine hopefully we will get some information to clarify what this machine is. Glad you'all liked the videos! Jon | ||
| Post# 308111 , Reply# 20 10/7/2008 at 08:55 (5,679 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Hi Jon, Yes, all my machine has is the four springs. No snubber setup at all. Your machines suspention setup looks a lot like the old Norge setup, but kind of a crossover between the old style and the newer style. Yours may even have the four springs also, under the shield. I bet the transmitions are the same in our machines. The transmitions in these are HUGE! About two or three times the size of a Maytag transmition.The bottom of the outer tub is cone shaped, and most of the trans is up inside the cone. You have to kind of look up under the outer tub to see it. Wish I had a better pixs to post of the trans. Borg Warner also manufactured manual transmitions for Ford Motor Company back in the day. It will be very interesting to see exactly what is under that shield on your Norge. Hope Robert can come up with something on this. | ||
| Post# 308138 , Reply# 21 10/7/2008 at 12:00 (5,679 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 308152 , Reply# 22 10/7/2008 at 13:30 (5,679 days old) by tbolt25 (Kentucky) | ||
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My favorite Norges My favorite of the Norges were the 1970's Fedders-Norges up to early 1980's pre-Maytag Magic Chef made washers(preferably Admirals)with the burp-up agitators. | ||
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Post# 308194 , Reply# 23 10/7/2008 at 20:52 (5,678 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Money Shot Peter | ||
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Post# 308200 , Reply# 24 10/7/2008 at 21:19 (5,678 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Jon, off balance buzzer? | ||
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Post# 308253 , Reply# 25 10/8/2008 at 09:13 (5,678 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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yes it sure does have a balance buzzer!
it is just out of the picture located on the lower left snubber! But the way these snubbers work I don't think it will ever hit the buzzer. It sure didn't when I had Artey's one dog blanket in the tub and the thing jumped into high spin. Was just talking to John about this machine, he wants to play with it bad! He tells me that the pressure switch on the spin solenoid is activated by air pressure from the spin solenoid to reset the fill level solenoid if I understand correctly, so it maybe that the spin solenoid is timer activated not pressure activated, I cannot be sure of either as the wiring diagram does not show the pressure switch located on the spin solenoid. For a basic machine this Norge has stirred up some interesting puzzles and debate! I will do its firs full load tonight from start to finish and post here. A real Bob Load® tonight! | ||
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Post# 308256 , Reply# 26 10/8/2008 at 09:56 (5,678 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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A Real Bob Load Tonight...!!! | ||
| Post# 308274 , Reply# 27 10/8/2008 at 13:16 (5,678 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
The Wizard Imperial strikes again!!!!
Full of wonderment: Failed to notice until Steve's post that this is indeed a three-vaner, something we have not seen. Yes? WHEN did they speed up the agitation? Was the slow agitation typical of only the 4 paddle spanker? There was a three vane agi in some of the wringer models. The one I saw around 1966, was red. Will you show the agitator in Full Monty for this evening's Oscar Performance? | ||
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Post# 308369 , Reply# 28 10/8/2008 at 21:16 (5,677 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Now Boys!
Yes I will give you the full monty on the agitator and the money shot on the control panel, but I got side tracked tonight sitting my God daughter so we did small load and she is 3 1/2 and has never seen a top loader before! She roared with laughter at the suds splashing up her arm and over the top! She loved the water fall fill flume and all the bubbles it made and she loved the smell of the detergent! Somethings she doesn't get in her Speed Queen all sealed front loader!! So I will have to do the Bob Load later in the week, sorry guys, uncle duty came first tonight. jet | ||
| Post# 308377 , Reply# 29 10/8/2008 at 22:15 (5,677 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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| Post# 308387 , Reply# 30 10/9/2008 at 00:56 (5,677 days old) by tbolt25 (Kentucky) | ||
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off-balance buzzers I thought the only washers with off-balance buzzers were the belt-drive Kenmore washers! | ||
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Post# 308389 , Reply# 31 10/9/2008 at 01:17 (5,677 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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LOVE NORGE! | ||
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