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Post# 343956   4/21/2009 at 14:24 (5,483 days old) by toploader1984 ()        

does anybody know the capacity of the older ge filter flos? mine is from the 80s, i have the xtra large capacity (18 lb) but i was wondering if anyboy knows how much that is in cubic feet capacity?




Post# 343958 , Reply# 1   4/21/2009 at 14:42 (5,483 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

The capacity of the tub is only as good as the amount of water it will hold. There are many machines that have large tubs but when the water level is selected on "Full" the tub does not completely fill. The difference between 3.0 and 3.1 might be a handtowel. 3.3 a towel and so on.

I have used FF's from the late 1980's that were a good couple of inches short of what a "full" water selection used to be, and that goes for the standard or large tub machines. I think pressure from the Fed had a lot to do with it.

I always had an appreciation for the large tub Maytags, as those tubs tended to fill all the way up. So in my mind they had the largest "useable" capacity. IMO a Queen-sized comforter in an 806 will wash a lot better than in a 1-18, and a 1-18 has a HUGE tub. Of course, the agitator has a lot to do with it, too.


Post# 343962 , Reply# 2   4/21/2009 at 14:58 (5,483 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Seconding what Steve said, I think a cu. ft. measurement is considered "useable capacity". Reading between the lines a bit, useful capacity, even though the tub may be identical between various models, depends on what agitator is used. I believe that as efficiencies of agitators improves, useful capacity increases in the same space.

I believe this is why we saw measurements of 2.7 cu. ft. on older large capacity belt drive Whirlpools and Kenmores, and 2.98 with the same basket equipped with a DA. Fast forward to today, I similarly think that is why a DD with straight vane comes in at 3.0 cu ft., a basic Dual Action at 3.2 and the fancier DAAs at 3.5 - all with the same tub and basket.


Post# 343985 , Reply# 3   4/21/2009 at 18:02 (5,483 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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with GE from the 70's there was standard and large capacities...then they did away with the standard which became large and the large became extra large capacities but they were the same tubs respectively...just a gimmick by manufacturers to make you think they were bigger...we all know better

Post# 343986 , Reply# 4   4/21/2009 at 18:09 (5,483 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Filter Flos

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That is one of the reasons why I really appreciated the older filter flos. The '68 model I have is "standard" capacity rated for 16 lbs loads according to GE then. It also fills up completely full of water right up to the filter pan. That about a good 2-3 inches higher than the later filter flos. Although capacity is not the greatest in that machine, the high fill does compensate considerably compared to the newer models. Pair that up with the ramp activator and you've got a great machine.

Post# 344028 , Reply# 5   4/21/2009 at 21:54 (5,482 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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i was also wondering in the older GE's like my mothers 1964...she had a v-12 with a ramp activator which really moved clothes on the high water level but if you selected a half wash you could not leave the lid open... all the water would spash out...the newer 1970-80 GE's with the ramp don't seem to do quite as well

Post# 344066 , Reply# 6   4/22/2009 at 03:23 (5,482 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        
differences in tubs measurements...

The agitator design definitely has alot to do with the how much a washtub can handle. Although, Whirlpool/Kenmore direct drive washer baskets look the same, they're differences in their measurement of the tubs. My cousin own a late 90's DD Kenmore with a 3.0 cu.ft basket. It was 16" in length and 20" in diameter. That's from the bottom of the tub rim to the bottom of the tub. My daily driver is a DD Whirlpool Gold washer with a 3.2 cu.ft basket, it is 16 5/8" tall and 20 3/4" wide. So it seems, according to the measurement (3/4 of an inch) its equivalent to 2 cu.ft of tub space. Gordon, that is the reason why I asked for your 1980 BD Kenmore wash basket measurements.

To compare them to the Whirlpool/Kenmore DD and Maytag HD washtub which happens to be 16" tall and 21 3/4" wide. BTW, I'm planning on selling my Whirlpool Gold washer model LSB6500PW3 and replacing it for a Maytag DC washer model LAT9806AAW. The Whirlpool "high-frequency" agitation is too tough on the laundry. My I plans are to interchange the obital tranny for a HELICAL tranny to have the longer and slower agitation stroke again, use the POWER-FIN agitator, add a 50 CYCLE (Hz)pulley and belts that will amp the agitating speed a bit to create a "SUPER" power-fin agitator and use the older DEEP washtub because it's bigger than LAT tub.

Harry


Post# 344415 , Reply# 7   4/23/2009 at 20:50 (5,480 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        
Differences In Washtub Measurements

Washer Capacity...

Gordon, tell me what you think about the different measurements. Also, what do you think about my plans for the redesigned/interchanged LAT Maytag.

Harry


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Post# 344418 , Reply# 8   4/23/2009 at 20:59 (5,480 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        
washer capacity

LAT9806AAW washer with a Power-fin agitator.

Post# 344421 , Reply# 9   4/23/2009 at 21:08 (5,480 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

The older Maytag DEEP tub

Post# 344422 , Reply# 10   4/23/2009 at 21:10 (5,480 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

another view

Post# 344423 , Reply# 11   4/23/2009 at 21:15 (5,480 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

and install the Helical Drive transmission

Post# 344424 , Reply# 12   4/23/2009 at 21:21 (5,480 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

longer and slower stroke

Post# 344425 , Reply# 13   4/23/2009 at 21:25 (5,480 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        
Scrubflex

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I swear I've seen that deep tub maytag picture some where before...

Post# 344440 , Reply# 14   4/23/2009 at 22:31 (5,480 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Sure you have, it's from the club. I'm using it as an example picture view if the washtub.

Post# 344442 , Reply# 15   4/23/2009 at 22:48 (5,480 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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Lol yeah, just messing with ya, it's my machine!

Post# 344450 , Reply# 16   4/23/2009 at 23:04 (5,480 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

I love it! What do you think about my idea for the LAT?

Post# 344452 , Reply# 17   4/23/2009 at 23:08 (5,480 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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That'd be pretty damn cool... I've always wanted to soup up my tag too ever since I saw Eddy's video.

Post# 344455 , Reply# 18   4/23/2009 at 23:25 (5,480 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Yeah, now all I have to do is find one...well maybe two. I'll need both to interchange parts. I'm searching for the LAT9806 now.

Post# 344461 , Reply# 19   4/24/2009 at 00:05 (5,480 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

As a side note, just seeing the chassis of one of the helical drive Maytags reinforces what a beautiful piece of simplicity in engineering they were. Now I'm getting all Verklempt! Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic. Maytag Helical Drive Washing machines: No drive solenoids, no clutches, no weird shifting mechanisms, no backsplash color-coded keyboards that look like a 1970's Ward's blender, there, I'm better now. My 806 would still have good roll over with my mom's oversized chenille bedspread while her 1-18 struggled quite a bit. (until I found the water level screw)

Post# 344465 , Reply# 20   4/24/2009 at 00:54 (5,480 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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Yeah Gene I agree, Maytag's are something else. Just try telling Robert ;)


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