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Post# 371616   8/12/2009 at 20:27 (5,370 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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I was dumping scrap at one of our local 'piles' and arrived just in time to see these sitting there awaiting oblivion. The claw was actually swinging around to grab them and feed the crusher with them. All I could do was get out and yell "STOP, PLEASE!!!". As luck would have it, the operator of the claw was I guy I'd done favors for in the past and knew me. After getting a 'Go for it' wave, I dumped my scrap and rescued these. My first ones of this flavor although the color is no stranger (my luck...). Ladies and Gents, meet the luckiest set to ever escape appliance oblivion: The Frigidaires!




Post# 371617 , Reply# 1   8/12/2009 at 20:27 (5,370 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The washer console...

Post# 371618 , Reply# 2   8/12/2009 at 20:28 (5,370 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The washer says AHHHH!

Post# 371619 , Reply# 3   8/12/2009 at 20:29 (5,370 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Her birth certificate... How old is she?

Post# 371620 , Reply# 4   8/12/2009 at 20:30 (5,370 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The dryer console. Missing a timer knob... How much of a pain will THAT be to get?

Post# 371621 , Reply# 5   8/12/2009 at 20:31 (5,370 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Open wide...

Post# 371622 , Reply# 6   8/12/2009 at 20:32 (5,370 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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and the dryer I.D. How old is this one? I'm guessing early 70's?

Post# 371625 , Reply# 7   8/12/2009 at 20:34 (5,370 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Stay posted!

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Those who know me (hush, QSD!) know that as you read this, I'm going thru them... Let me have them 'strut their stuff' and I'll post some more later.

RCD


Post# 371628 , Reply# 8   8/12/2009 at 20:37 (5,370 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
(hush, QSD!)

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Awwwww, come on, man ;)

Post# 371630 , Reply# 9   8/12/2009 at 20:44 (5,370 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

I just can't fathom why anybody would be dumb enough to scrap these. It's a great set, for sure! Also, the knob for the dryer should be easily obtainable. I am sure I can find a source some place.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 371632 , Reply# 10   8/12/2009 at 20:46 (5,370 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

I'm liking the silver trim at the bottom of the console!! Very nice set.

Post# 371640 , Reply# 11   8/12/2009 at 21:11 (5,370 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Wow

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Those are beautiful. What fool would have thrown those out!

Post# 371647 , Reply# 12   8/12/2009 at 21:34 (5,370 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        
WOW!!!!!!

You are lucky man to have found these. I hope the work perfectly. Evidently the person throwing them out didn't realize exactly what he/she had.

Post# 371648 , Reply# 13   8/12/2009 at 21:36 (5,370 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Man, they are in wonderful shape. That washer tub looks pristine. Great save!

Most people wind up dumping machines like these because appliance dealers tell them "No use keeping them; you can't get parts". Or they redecorate/remodel and get rid of the old ones.

You have to remember that old appliances mean absolutely nothing to the vast majority of the general public.


Post# 371649 , Reply# 14   8/12/2009 at 21:38 (5,370 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Talk about being in the right place at the right time!!!YAY Congratulations!!! Great save.

Post# 371661 , Reply# 15   8/12/2009 at 23:12 (5,369 days old) by a440 ()        

Very, Very nice!
They are in great shape!!!!
Congratulations!
Brent


Post# 371664 , Reply# 16   8/12/2009 at 23:33 (5,369 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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Amazing find! That is one great looking set!

Post# 371668 , Reply# 17   8/12/2009 at 23:55 (5,369 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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T is 1971, the second year of 1-18s. Those are just beautiful Andrew, congratulations!!!

Post# 371675 , Reply# 18   8/13/2009 at 00:09 (5,369 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Andrew, YOU DA MAN!! I'm so proud of you. Those are beautiful. I"m wondering if that set came form one of those Sun City housing developments nearby. From what I've heard, still many a 1/18 set can be found there. I'm actually very jealous!! Congratulations again. Bob

Post# 371676 , Reply# 19   8/13/2009 at 00:11 (5,369 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Redcarpetdrew, best of luck with them, Man, what a save. alr2903

Post# 371680 , Reply# 20   8/13/2009 at 00:28 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Here we go...

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First off, thank you all for the kind words. I haven't touched a thumper for YEARS! And yes, I have been working... EErrrmmm... ok, ok, PLAYING with it all this time since last post. Takes a while to upload video to Youtube, but more on that later.

NOW THEN...

The washer is CLEAN! Very little to clean up here. The lid is just one clue how well this was kept.


Post# 371681 , Reply# 21   8/13/2009 at 00:29 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Took off the front panel. Didn't know what to expect on a dumped washer... Pandora's box... Again, CLEAN!

Post# 371682 , Reply# 22   8/13/2009 at 00:31 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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I was expecting rust, leakage stains, who knows what. Then I got a look at the mechanism... No obvious ugliness. Hope began to swirl!

Post# 371683 , Reply# 23   8/13/2009 at 00:34 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
I wonder what to do next? Duhhh!

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No guts, no glory! Lets run the thing! Towels should do the trick. Load them in and start her up... And...

Post# 371684 , Reply# 24   8/13/2009 at 00:36 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
SUCCESS!!!

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It runs! In came the water. I love the water fill from all around the tub cover!

Post# 371685 , Reply# 25   8/13/2009 at 00:40 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
OK, it fills. Does it...

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WASH! Yes it does. Started right up with that lovely thump that I remember from so long ago. There might be a slight 'tap' or 'click' from the lower end. It's not overly loud, so maybe normal for a washer with a few years of service? I forgot how these move the load!

Post# 371686 , Reply# 26   8/13/2009 at 00:44 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Forgot the soap! Well... Maybe I should have!

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I *DID* put in only a little bit. Ooopppss! I guess the jetcone churns up the soap!

For those who have never seen a Jetcone in operation, I shot some video. It also shows the mechanism underneath at work.


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Post# 371687 , Reply# 27   8/13/2009 at 00:48 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
The big question... Will it spin out?

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Again, YES!!! Why did the previous owners get rid of this wonderfull machine? Beats me. Am I just imagining things or did this start out on slow speed for a little bit when first pumping down then shift to high? Anyway, there is a tiny squeek as it first starts out. I'm thinking belt. After all, it's most likely the original belt... I love this camera! You'd never know this was taken during full spin...

Post# 371688 , Reply# 28   8/13/2009 at 00:51 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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I think this machine has the longest spray rinse duration I've ever seen. I'm used to the Maytag top loader with it's short sprays... The spin is quiet. There's no apparent bearing issues here! What IS the rpm on the spin for this?

Post# 371689 , Reply# 29   8/13/2009 at 01:00 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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As I said, there was little cleanup for me to do. The inside of the cabinette wiped right out as did the outside. It shines! The towels came out absolutely dry! I don't know why this little one was booted out into the night, but she has a new, loving home here. AW has helped me join the conventional washer club and now the 1-18 club!

Anything I should be looking for as preventative maintenance for this one? I will admit to being a thumper neophyte but thank goodness I started out with the right unit. Maybe the washer was taking it easy on me for snatching her, quite literally, from the jaws of death...

The dryer runs and drys but I can hear rumblings from inside. Possibly a roller or two or an idler. It's late, and I'm tired. The dryer will get her turn later. I think this is the Franklin design with the bazzillion rollers. Not my favorite, but I'll give it a chance... Later...

RCD


Post# 371692 , Reply# 30   8/13/2009 at 01:11 (5,369 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Wow, nice clean condition, no leaks....and...IT WORKS!!

Holy Freakin SCORE!!

"Am I just imagining things or did this start out on slow speed for a little bit when first pumping down then shift to high?"

If it's anything like my Multimatic, it starts out on slow speed until the timer advances, then it shifts into a higher speed. This is done twice if you have a 3 speed machine.


Post# 371694 , Reply# 31   8/13/2009 at 01:15 (5,369 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Wow!

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Just BEAUTIFUL! Congratulations, and hooray for snatching them from the jaws of death!

You'll love that machine--I sure miss mine! And yes, you talk about a spray rinse!

Congrats again!


Post# 371700 , Reply# 32   8/13/2009 at 01:27 (5,369 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        

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Drew,

What a happy thread with great pictures and a wonderful story. I am so glad you were able to save these machines and join us in the wonderful world of Frigidaire Jet Action. These machines look to be in great shape and that squeak you mention at the beginning of spin is normal. In fact every 1-18 I've ever owned seems to have that squeak. It goes away as the machine picks up speed. And yes, it does start out in slow speed while it pumps out the water and then shifts to high. I can never remember the exact spin speed on these but I know someone will chime in. It's around 700 rpm if I remember correctly and does a pretty decent job.

Congratulations. You will have lots of fun with these.

Patrick

Here's one of my sets.



Post# 371718 , Reply# 33   8/13/2009 at 04:54 (5,369 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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If my brain is working properly.I think the slow spin speed prior to the Rapidry is 640 RPMs.I think the Rapidry is 880.Don't quote me on that.The timer selects the spin speed on the Permanent Press cycle only so the user doesnt make there Permanent press get permanently wrinkled.I had these in coppertone when I lived in Fells point where Devine from John Waters campy movies would come over and use them as we'd returned from our trip down the alyways in Baltimore's Highlandtown on the southeast side of the city, got high and talked true trash.I got mine from an add for a used washer dryer from "Refrigidaire" for $75.I replaced the original washer lid with a glass one and had to use a wire brush to scrape off all the carbin residue that had built up on the gas burner glow bar.Those were the hay days of FRIGIDAIRE and as we all know and miss tremendously,the 70's were the very last decade of FRIGIDAIRE Appliances as we knew and loved them.I must have sold hundreds of them and know they were made to last.They were not only extreamly effective in getting out ground in dirt but,they were the hugest capacity of any other washer and dryer. The capacity and the FRIGIDAIRE Rapidry spin made them gain the number two spot in Consumer REPORTS the following year second only to Maytag.However,Their dryers and electric range(Model RSE36S) were rated number one.In 1973,the Touch N Cook range was introduced and a new line of their Super Surge dishwashers with a new polipropeline tub were also unvailed.They also released the "GMini" compact washer and dryer.Similar to a "Skini-Mini" stacked compact washer and dryer but seperate instead of together.Amana made FRIGIDAIRE's microwave ovens(the open down door and three button controls gave that away imediately)and Poppy red was also unvailed but was only available on select models but became very popular.Moere so than avacado or coppertone.I feel like I'm venting but nobody has made anything near what FRIGIDAIRE (a division of General Motors)had designed,pionered,developed and tested non stop prior to introduction to the consumers did.Yes,I'll admit, some of the newer ceramic top ranges,bottom mount freezer refrigerators,dishwashers and all the front loading washers far exceed the performance and some the quality of the old line of true FRIGIDAIRE appliances but none of us will ever know how well or how horibly FRIGIDAIRE's version of the current major appliances made today would have scored.My own opinion would be a more positive one.Yes,another admision of mine,the current line Frigidaire (Electrolux)has available now has excelled in sales,quality and performance.Now farther ahead in their quest for success than they ever were after the take over from GM to WCI.I wonder if they would be where they are today had Electrolux not bailed them out.There are pros and cons here,However,I would buy a new Frigidaire front loading washer over a GE,Sears Kenmore,Amana,Samsung,Maytag,Whirlpool,or KitchenAid.The only front loaders I prefer over them are L.g. and Speed Queen.I know there are many others here who are not that sold on L.g. but I sold thousands of them and had very few disatisfied customers. My customers who bought the L.g.dishwashers,refrigerators and electric ranges and had issues were the ones that were disatisfied ones.Not because of the problem at hand but the extreamly poor service they received. I haven't been selling L.G for a few years now so I am not aware of the improvements,if any that L.G has made in their previously unexceptible poor customer repair service.hopefuly,L.G. has improved that and moved forward.

Post# 371719 , Reply# 34   8/13/2009 at 05:05 (5,369 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

Alice will start at a slow speed, then slowly ramp up. During the spray rinse on the warm setting, he'll slow down to a crawl. But with cold water, the slowdown isn't very noticeable. So, I'm thinking that more water is coming in than the pump can pump out at once, which slows the tub. Still, there are no problems with draining fully. And yes, these 1-18's really do spin great! Not quite as fast as my belt-drive Whirlpool portable, but I can hardly tell the difference between the two. I'll sheepishly admit that a Rapidry or Unimatic would do better at extraction, but I'm perfectly happy and content with what I got.

These are great machines, and Thumper looks like she's in perfect condition and as clean as the day she was born. I'm sure she'll be forever grateful for the home you provide. You have found a loyal friend for life, and I am very certain that you won't let her down.

As for the jerk that left her to the crusher: I hope his new fan-dangled HE miracle junk heap throws fits and costs him several times more in maintenance than he bought it for. He deserves it. Stupid is, as stupid does.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 371723 , Reply# 35   8/13/2009 at 06:16 (5,369 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

A great find! Likely cast off from an elderly persons home since they appear to be so well cared for.

A trick I recently learned from John Lefever is to reduce the water used for a given load to increase roll-over!
After all these years it had never occured to be to try it but it really works. (With a solid-tub Rollermatic the more you pack it full the better the roll-over!)

I used to get frustrated with a really big load getting lame or almost no turnover. Now the HIGHEST water level I EVER use is "Normal".
For a normal sized load I use the "Medium" setting and for a medium load the "Small" setting, etc.
It does make a difference!


Post# 371724 , Reply# 36   8/13/2009 at 06:32 (5,369 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Wow

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Certainly not meant for the crusher, thank goodness you got there in time!!!

When it says "Warm Rinse" are all the rinses Warm or just the last one??

Happy hunting, Mike


Post# 371726 , Reply# 37   8/13/2009 at 06:43 (5,369 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

That is one beautiful machine you have there. Someone has taken good care of her. I really enjoyed the video as well. I would be nice of one of these would pop up close to me.

Post# 371729 , Reply# 38   8/13/2009 at 07:02 (5,369 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Wow - what great luck!!

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Talk about being in the right place at the right time! Nice save - I can't believe someone would trash a working set like that! Then again, that is the sort of thing that the 'keeping ahead of the Joneses' types would do. Love the Harvest Gold - my second favorite appliance colour. Enjoy them and may they bring you many more years of washing fun!!

Post# 371730 , Reply# 39   8/13/2009 at 07:04 (5,369 days old) by bygted ()        
great save

wow - that's a really pretty pair!
I wish the guys at my scrap yard were cool like that!


Post# 371739 , Reply# 40   8/13/2009 at 08:23 (5,369 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
WOW DREW.....

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Those are AWESOME! That is SO fortunate that you came across these and were able to save them! Absolutely fantistic! CONGRATS!


Post# 371740 , Reply# 41   8/13/2009 at 08:49 (5,369 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Drew - very, very nice save. Even a Maytag guy can drive a GM car, can't they ;-)

Both the washer and dryer are T line, MFG in 1973. The first number in the serial number tells us the year. Also some of these 73 and 74 machines seem to have the year in the model number as well, or at least this is an observation I've seen when looking through the Master Parts lists.

Enjoy the washer! Steve's comment about the lower water level is spot on. You'll be amazed at what they can do with the correct water level.

Ben


Post# 371741 , Reply# 42   8/13/2009 at 09:19 (5,369 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Chuck---I just checked Consumer Reports reliability ratings and LG front-loading washers (along with Whirlpool) scored the best in that department.

I checked for the reliability of LG dishwashers but they aren't listed due to not having enough data. However, CR took the print space to say the evidence they've gathered so far show LG dishwashers are a repair-prone brand.

I keep waiting for something to go wrong with my LG dishwasher, as nearly every consumer forum has horrible things to say about their reliability. Dishwashers get very, very heavy use in my house, so I'm a good test as to a brand's reliability.

I bought my LG 9810 in July of 2008. Hope it hangs in there, as it's the best dishwasher I've ever had. My only complaint is drying; there's no heated dry option. Otherwise, what's not to like? It cleans even the worst pots/pans; capacity is huge and flexible; has powered steam option; has a dedicated silverware rack; is very parsimonious with water; is truly whisper-quiet. Cycles rarely take as long as displayed in the timer window.

But, I have to remember that I've had repair issues within two years with almost every brand I've ever owned: KitchenAid (rapid-advance timer on '84 machine; pump issues with early '90s model); '06 Maytag (control board, near-fire); early 00's Frigidaire (control board three times).

In fact, the only dishwasher I've owned that didn't need a repair was a mid-80s Whirlpool portable. I only had that one for about year.


Post# 371805 , Reply# 43   8/13/2009 at 14:59 (5,369 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Thanks...

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I've never really been a Frigidaire guy but this one is kinda growing on me. I guess I've come over to the dark side after all... LOL! Maybe I'm just a sap for the hard luck cases. One theory is that maybe her previous owner was elderly and passed away and the children had absolutely no idea what they had other than just 'an old washer'...

Patrick, that green set is fantastic! Was that how you got them or was there some paint work there?

Ben, that date makes sense as I found a 1972 date on the wiring schematic glued to the tub. Overall, she's a solid little thing. The mechanics seem simple yet complex at the same time.

Is there any preventative measures I should be taking with this washer to preserve the seals or drivetrain? Any guidance or any other usage hints would be welcomed!

RCD


Post# 371826 , Reply# 44   8/13/2009 at 16:09 (5,369 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Good Luck with them

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Frigidaire could maybe convert a Maytag lover...

Post# 371862 , Reply# 45   8/13/2009 at 19:48 (5,369 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Andrew I just can see you running for those Machines lol !
I think the karma is all on your side.
What a great, great find congratulations! I hope you will have a great time with them. Peace.

Darren k


Post# 371870 , Reply# 46   8/13/2009 at 20:28 (5,369 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Drew

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The story goes like this. I was perusing Craigslist and came across an ad for a Frigidaire washer and dryer in "a retro shade of green" as the seller put it. There was no photo. I emailed and asked for a model # and then made arrangements to go see them. They were exactly as you see them. It was a realtor who had bought the house with the appliances still inside and he already had a 'plastic' GE washer and dryer. It was the usual case of someone taking a classic 50's built house and modernizing it so he didn't want them even though they were in the basement. The paint on them is perfect. They even had the manuals and installation sheet with them. I like to think of them now in more modern terms and call them 'sage green'. LOL

Maybe it's me but I look at them and think they could pass for brand new.

Patrick


Post# 371875 , Reply# 47   8/13/2009 at 20:54 (5,369 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        
Maybe it's me but I look at them and think they could pa

The most certainly do Patrick. Absolutely beautiful!

Post# 371888 , Reply# 48   8/13/2009 at 22:14 (5,368 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
a retro shade of green

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That's THE nicest way I've ever heard Avacado Green referred to, ever. That's like my saying Thumper is a 'Sunkissed shade of golden wheat'... LOL! Still, that is a great set you have there and with the books, too! It almost looks like the previous owner cleaned and waxed the cabinettes.

RCD


Post# 371953 , Reply# 49   8/14/2009 at 01:29 (5,368 days old) by soberleaf ()        
you lucked out with it not leaking!

that machine is in really great condition. if you ever do want to pick up a water seal i know a place on the web that still sells them. and dave's repair on the web has water bellows! these are the two main parts that i grabbed when i got my 1-18 recently. mine did leak but your's obviously has had a good life! it's beautiful! hope it continues to perform without a problem for you, nothing like a frigidaire pulsator agitator!

Post# 371958 , Reply# 50   8/14/2009 at 01:56 (5,368 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Another classic set saved from the crusher. Yay! The video is great, it's crystal clear!

Post# 371970 , Reply# 51   8/14/2009 at 03:15 (5,368 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

I figured I'd add a little update on Alice. The slow spin speed that I was dealing with originally was due to the timer, which can be rebuilt. I have just recently got some information on where that can be done. So, if there's ever a problem, save that timer!

Anyway, I swapped out Alice's original WS control panel for the one I got off of the machine I bought from Goatfarmer, which is a WID that's in for a long rebuild. The control panel of a 1-18 is very easy to swap out, just by removing two Phillips head screws, then pulling it forward and up. You then unplug the harness and pressure hose. That's all there is to it.

NorfolkSouthern

Alice's new mug shot!:



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