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Miele W3033 Washer / T8003 Dryer

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Post# 401890 12/25/2009 at 15:53 (5,236 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes Well unfortunately back on 11/4 when I had already been working on the order for the Miele Washer and Dryer, the dryer was out of stock and on backorder through the vendor. I waited and waited and it was STILL out of stock. I ended up cancelling the order. I am going to place the order again around the first week of January and try again with a different vendor this time. Here is the current state of the basement finishing project. Still have to finish taping, muding, sanding, texture, paint, trim, shelving, and carpet the stairs. I've just pushed over $2000 on the project, not bad! I want to be able to sit and watch my Mieles in style... LOL Andrew www.automaticwasher.org/TD/THREAD... And the before/after pics of my basement in it's current state are below. Getting there! Andrew

Post# 401891 , Reply# 1 12/25/2009 at 15:53 (5,236 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 401892 , Reply# 2 12/25/2009 at 15:54 (5,236 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 401894 , Reply# 3 12/25/2009 at 15:56 (5,236 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Lighted Detergent Cubbie* Lighted Detergent Cubbie

Post# 401896 , Reply# 4 12/25/2009 at 15:59 (5,236 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Original Basement* Here is what the basement was like when we moved in 2 years ago. Very inappropriate for a set of Mieles to live in!

Post# 401897 , Reply# 5 12/25/2009 at 16:00 (5,236 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 401955 , Reply# 6 12/26/2009 at 01:47 (5,235 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)
Checkrate/Likes Lighted detergent cubbie - I love it!!!

Post# 401966 , Reply# 7 12/26/2009 at 06:27 (5,235 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes Thanks Greg - It's obviously not big enough to hold all of the 30,000 boxes and bottles of detergent in your 10,000 sq foot laundry facility, but it'll do just fine for me ;-) I'll have to drag you over here to see it all when I'm finished. (If I ever get finished!!!) Andrew

Post# 401974 , Reply# 8 12/26/2009 at 08:33 (5,235 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)
Checkrate/Likes *The Basement Gifted* I wish I had been fortunate enough to find a house with a basement when I was hunting a few years back. At that time, I thought I had gotten over the washing machine addiction. Not so... I would have a basement full of machines by now. Your home improvement project looks like it is coming along nicely. Sorry about the Miele set. I am not a person that likes to wait. Once I decide on something, I like to make it happen quickly. Keep us posted on progression. Malcolm

Post# 402001 , Reply# 9 12/26/2009 at 11:54 (5,235 days old) by washmeup (scottsdale)
Checkrate/Likes *Miele* I have a Miele Dishwasher and it is awsome! I love their products and next on my list is their washer and dryer. Good luck and keep us posted! They are easy to purchase out here in AZ but I guess scarce in Nebraska!

Post# 405451 , Reply# 10 1/11/2010 at 18:56 (5,219 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Washer Ordered 01/11* I ended up going with the original dealer who gave me a nice discount for the delay with the dryer not being in stock, and being on backorder. I've gone ahead and ordered the W3033 today, and it will be here in about 10 business days. Hopefully before next Friday so I can have a weekend with the new washer!!! Dryer will come soon once they have it in stock. Uncrating and installation photos will be posted soon :-) Now to sell the LG's... Andrew

Post# 405776 , Reply# 11 1/13/2010 at 09:09 (5,217 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Miele Shipped!* I have to share my excitement! I hope it gets here before next weekend so I can spend the entire weekend with her... :-) Order Date: January 11th, 2010 Order Status: Shipped Miele W3033 24" Front Load Washer with 11 Wash Programs, Stainless Steel Honeycomb Drum and Angled Digital Control Panel Item Price Quantity Total $1,999.00 1 1,999.00 Andrew

Post# 405779 , Reply# 12 1/13/2010 at 09:53 (5,217 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)
Checkrate/Likes *nice!* I am very excited for you. One thing I haven't quite figured out is why the smaller capacity machines are more expensive than the 4XXX series machines. I can only assume the build quality is better in the smaller machines. Malcolm

Post# 405817 , Reply# 13 1/13/2010 at 13:07 (5,217 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *W3000 Series* Agree with you Malcom. I decided on the W3000 series because it's got the classic Miele look that I've really gained an appreciation for over that last 2 years. I saw the W4000 series in person at the dealer here in Omaha, and while they are very solid built, 2 reasons I decided to go with the W3033. You cannot feel the door glass on the W4000 - they have a glass front to the door with Miele stamped in it. I wouldnt be able to hear the clank of buttons and the sound of the water filling down the door as well. In fact, I don't even think the W4000 series fill down the door at all. They have an orange LED drum light, not a white one like the W3033, and it also does not appear to have a spout on the top of the door seal where it would fill down the door. (Yes, I'm certified washer crazy I think). Also, I didn't exactly like the setup of the controls on the W4000. All the buttons are on the top, you wouldnt hardly be able to see them if you were sitting in front of the machine, like many of us do as if we are watching a movie. I like the display on the W3033 much better. These were things which drove me to the $2000 machine vs the $1600 machine. I was considering a set of the SpeedQueens like yours Malcom, but I decided, that I better just get the ones I REALLY want. I don't think I'll have a desire for something better anytime soon, I'm not sure that there IS anything better than a Miele! (I hope, or my boyfriend WILL slaughter me.) Now for a Miele La Perla II.......... ;-) Andrew

Post# 405819 , Reply# 14 1/13/2010 at 13:28 (5,217 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)
Checkrate/Likes *La Perla II...* Andrew, Get the La Perla II, you'll love it! I purchased mine back in August and it is quite frankly the BEST dishwasher I have ever owned and used. Its racks are deceptive in that you they appear smaller than a U.S. machine but I am able to get more in the Miele than the Kenmore Elite I got rid of. And talk about quiet. You can barely hear the machine when it is running. :-) Chris

Post# 405835 , Reply# 15 1/13/2010 at 15:51 (5,217 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)
Checkrate/Likes *Agreed.* Andrew, I agree with you on that one. That was a big reason for not going with the Miele's because I like to trade up every two to three years. Once you get the Miele's, all the fun of trade-ups is out and you're done. Frankly, I enjoy getting a new set to play with every couple of years. That way, I know something about almost everything out there. Eventually, I will break down and get the Miele's. My dream machines would be the Little Giant set. Sigh... When I hit the Lottery, perhaps. But, I can feel your excitment growing. Aint it the best high ever? Malcolm

Post# 406208 , Reply# 16 1/15/2010 at 08:12 (5,215 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Delivering Tuesday 01/19* NOW ON TRAILER 280997 AND ON-HAND AT AKRON OH USA SHIPMENT REQUIRES CONSIGNEE TO BE NOTIFIED. PICKUP DATE 01/14/2010 BROOKLYN, NY 11232 EST DELIVERY DATE 01/19/2010 OMAHA, NE 68142 Can't wait!!! I'm going to take the entire day off work, and my friend is going to come over Tuesday night to help me cautiously slide the 200lb beauty down the basement stairs still crated and wrapped up in it's box. If it won't fit through my doorjamb in the garage still crated, I'll have to put up padding around the doorjambs so we can carry it in. All of my LG's have fit still in the box, so I'm sure the Miele will. It's smaller than the LG's. The slightest scratch, dent, or ding on a $2000 washer would make me cry, and beat my own ass. I've already called the delivery company YRC to advise them they must NOT remove the washer from it's shipping crate / wrapping / box. I don't see why they would, but I took the precaution anyway. I bought a set of whirlpools back in 2006 when I lived in Mississippi for a short while, and the fools from Lowes opened it up in the back of the truck and were scooting it allover the metal bed of the truck on the back of the dryer etc. Bottom of the dryer was all scraped up, and the back. A few slight scratches too from hauling them in w/o them being in the boxes. I was livid, should have refused them, but I didn't. We only planned to have them for 6 months, so I really didn't care after I cooled off. That was my first washer/dryer purchase, so I learned my lesson. ;-) More to come Tuesday! Andrew

Post# 406227 , Reply# 17 1/15/2010 at 10:50 (5,215 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)
Checkrate/Likes Wow you passed up a 4800 and went for something with a tad less capacity??? I have a 4800 and the door most certainly gets water. There is a jet nozzle in the door opening that fills the drum and drenches the load as it tumbles. Also I can hear buttons touching the glass. Also with the 4800 even though the control panels are angled and on top one can figure out where it is in a cycle. Its not like the 4840 with the display panel that I kinda wish the 4800 had. Also was the 4800 plugged in so you could see the color of the LED light? It is white. The lens looks orange but when the light is on it is white. One key difference is drum angle. The 4800 has an inclined drum...the 3000 does not. A true horizontal drum on that model. Another is that I think that 3000 series is made in Germany. The 4800 and 4840 plus the T9800 dryer are made in Czechoslovakia. A tad maddening but no biggie. Now when you get a Miele LaPerla dishwasher...now that will make your nips hard! I love mine. 2 years now and no problems whatsoever. Just give it what it needs like salt and rinse aid and a good detergent and that machine will reward you will clean dishes. I find it very easy to load and it does hold alot. Dont let the racks size decieve you. It holds alot and it is very flexible. More so than any other dishwasher I have ever used. The silverware tray takes no time at all getting used to. It also will make sense to you as well.

Post# 406235 , Reply# 18 1/15/2010 at 11:51 (5,215 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Passed up :)* Hi Mike, Yea I did decide to go with the W3033, even though it is smaller capacity. I really wanted the more classic look, vs the new modern 4000 series. And our local dealer did not have the units plugged in. In fact, you could barely get to the machines because they had the entire Miele applaince showroom floor they have cluttered with all sorts of crap. While the W4000 are still very nice machines, I really did not like the door on it. (W3033 has the electronic door button, 4000 series does not). I am so freaking excited... Going to try and get the laundry room textured this weekend. Trying to have it done before I order the matching T8003 Vented dryer. :) Andrew

Post# 406252 , Reply# 19 1/15/2010 at 12:59 (5,215 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)
Checkrate/Likes Where in Omaha are they selling Mieles? I used to live there and the only place at the time...this was in 98-99 was a place near the Furnature Mart and they only had vacuums at the time. I want to say it was a sewing center at the time too.

Post# 406275 , Reply# 20 1/15/2010 at 14:33 (5,215 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Same place* Same place, OK-Sewing and Vacuum. I'll just nicely say that I've had a horiffic experience with them with my Miele S7, and will never return to that store again. Ever. Ever ever ever... Ever. Ever.

Post# 406282 , Reply# 21 1/15/2010 at 14:51 (5,215 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)
Checkrate/Likes Thats the place! I am surprised that they are still in business. I went in there looking for vac bags for my Miele 248i vac and they had no clue what i was looking for.

Post# 406407 , Reply# 22 1/16/2010 at 08:33 (5,214 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Enroute* TRAILER 281279 IS ENROUTE TO CRYSTAL LAKE IL USA I sure hope they have good roadways in Crystal Lake, IL... I do not want her to be jostled on her journey... LOL 3 more days! (Sorry guys, I have to share the excitement!) Andrew

Post# 406414 , Reply# 23 1/16/2010 at 08:42 (5,214 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)
Checkrate/Likes *You Go* Right ahead Andrew! Share the excitement. Miele does do an exceptional job at packaging their washers and dryers, well in fact all their appliances. Check out the link to Miele's website. Click the first video "Gutersloh Factory". You'll get to see the product of the machines as well as how the "crash test" them. Very fascinating. Chris CLICK HERE TO GO TO neptuneguy27's LINK

Post# 406427 , Reply# 24 1/16/2010 at 09:21 (5,214 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)
Checkrate/Likes *Tub Paddles* I like a machine with tub paddles that are steel. I also prefer the paddles to extend the full depth of the tub. It really makes for a more energized wash. Malcolm

Post# 407093 , Reply# 25 1/18/2010 at 10:38 (5,212 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Delivery Confirmed for 01/19* TRAILER 281279 IS ENROUTE TO OMAHA NE USA 01/19/2010 09:00 - 17:00 With my persistance via email and calls to the delivery company, I've got "DO NOT OPEN OR UNBOX" plastered allover their systems :-) About 24 hours to go! Andrew

Post# 407192 , Reply# 26 1/18/2010 at 16:24 (5,212 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)
Checkrate/Likes *Break out some Champagne!* Welcome that machine into service by raising a glass of bubbly when she arrives! I know you must be counting the minutes... Malcolm

Post# 407197 , Reply# 27 1/18/2010 at 16:40 (5,212 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)
Checkrate/Likes Congrats! Post videos/pics soon! That's worth taking the day off

Post# 407236 , Reply# 28 1/18/2010 at 19:29 (5,212 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Long Haul!* I do believe she will be very tired and cold on her 2nd half of her journey. Here is a map of her route to my cozy basement! I've already got the tripod setup for the filming of her initial startup / programming ;-) Nerd Andrew

Post# 407239 , Reply# 29 1/18/2010 at 19:38 (5,212 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *:-)* Ok, I need professional help...

Post# 407241 , Reply# 30 1/18/2010 at 20:09 (5,212 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)
Checkrate/Likes LOL. I did the same thing with my Speed Queen. I read every bit of info I could find in the long week's wait--including bugging the store every few minutes waiting on it's delivery. I painted the laundry closet, scrubbed the floor, and even dug out 2 grocery bags full of lint using the Lint Eater (which works well by the way). Of course, that's 1/2 the fun--it's also when you know you're going to get something you really enjoy. I could never say that I've been as excited to get other appliances. Are newer Miele's made in Mexico now?

Post# 407256 , Reply# 31 1/18/2010 at 22:16 (5,211 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 407265 , Reply# 32 1/18/2010 at 22:57 (5,211 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)
Checkrate/Likes So close, yet so far away...nail biting, I'm sure.

Post# 407332 , Reply# 33 1/19/2010 at 07:03 (5,211 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)
Checkrate/Likes *I agree...* Take the day off! I wouldn't be able to function properly at the office with the arrival just around to corner. Malcolm

Post# 407347 , Reply# 34 1/19/2010 at 08:23 (5,211 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Miele Day!* It's loaded on the truck, now I'm waiting... anxiously... for them to call 30 mins ahead of the arrival. I did take the day off :-) Andrew

Post# 407354 , Reply# 35 1/19/2010 at 09:13 (5,211 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)
Checkrate/Likes *The Waiting Basement* Andrew, You need to post a pic or two of the completed laundry area in the basement. The waiting space for your new toy... Malcolm

Post# 407360 , Reply# 36 1/19/2010 at 09:33 (5,211 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Basement* Well... yea... LOL Ummmm I've still got some more mudding to do and sanding (I've been lazy), but I have the texture sprayer, got that last week. I'm about 70% done with the basement really. And you can believe that the Miele will have 3 layers of plastic covering over her before I get to the texture spraying! :) It should be here soon... just waiting for the phone to ring. Andrew

Post# 407365 , Reply# 37 1/19/2010 at 09:48 (5,211 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)
Checkrate/Likes *Arrival Pix* Andrew, I am interested to see how well your Miele is packaged from the factory. Can you snap a pic or two before the unpackaging? Malcolm

Post# 407375 , Reply# 38 1/19/2010 at 10:51 (5,211 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)
Checkrate/Likes A nice shot of the drum with light would be cool. "Quilted" stainless...now that's really cool.

Post# 407377 , Reply# 39 1/19/2010 at 11:09 (5,211 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Pics* I'll be taking a ton of unboxing photos, no doubt. You'll have to excuse the garage, it's such a mess from winter. I hope to be able to get the washer down to the basement still boxed for protection, otherwise I'll have to enlist my friend with his huge biceps to assist me :-) I'll be posting videos on YouTube this afternoon also, I'm going to film it's intial booting, where you get the welcome screen, language selection, shipping strut removal warning, and initial request to start a 70C sanitary wash. :) 220lbs of German Bliss, is about to arrive! Andrew

Post# 407380 , Reply# 40 1/19/2010 at 11:11 (5,211 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *LOL!* So I took the day off for this grand event, and my hag at work sent me this: "Sabrina" i just heard there was big wreck on the interestate, a semi turned over and caught fire..loaded with washers andrew.leeling: LMAO!!!!!

Post# 407411 , Reply# 41 1/19/2010 at 13:08 (5,211 days old) by dysonanimal ()
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Post# 407412 , Reply# 42 1/19/2010 at 13:10 (5,211 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)
Checkrate/Likes 220 lbs of sheer German wonder. My 4800 weighs in at 287 pounds. try moving that!

Post# 407430 , Reply# 43 1/19/2010 at 14:11 (5,211 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Celebration!* She's here! Cold, tired, and begging for me to drag her inside the garage entryway. I've got space heaters aimed at her, not too close though as we do not want to cook her. She's got ice in the drum seal, and the pump filter is frozen solid LOL. Some of the pictures look like there are scratches on the panel, but it's just saw dust and stuff from shipping. It's a bit dirty as well. Well if I was stuck on a truck since Monday at this time of year, I'd be frozen also. The drain pump is now draining and It'll be ready for installation around 6pm, so about 4 hours to go before my bicep assistant arrives. It does have recessed handles on the back of the lid as well as the front bottom for carrying thank god. I did black out the serial number on these pics with Photoshop - sorry guys, I'm paranoid like that. More to follow! Andrew I'm so excited!!!!

Post# 407436 , Reply# 44 1/19/2010 at 14:32 (5,211 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)
Checkrate/Likes *Wow...* I can feel the exciment up to here! She's a beauty really! Btw why did you marked the serialnumber? (Have no clue why you did this :$)... Also what's the plastic port in the centre of the back?

Post# 407443 , Reply# 45 1/19/2010 at 14:40 (5,211 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)
Checkrate/Likes I would have blacked out the serial number as well. Remember the WORLD can see ANYTHING on here. How come there is so much ice? One would think the unit would have arrived moisture free?

Post# 407446 , Reply# 46 1/19/2010 at 14:46 (5,211 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes The port in the back is for the WLAN Adapter, not entirely sure that I'd need to have that connected to my home network so I could pay who knows how much per month for Miele RemoteVision :-) I don't even think remote vision ended up being available for the 3000 series, even though they have ports for them. I blacked out the serial number as that will be registered to me at Miele, along with my address etc. I had my identity stolen in 2002 - you learn to do these things after such a horrible experience! She's thawing nicely :)

Post# 407448 , Reply# 47 1/19/2010 at 14:49 (5,211 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)
Checkrate/Likes *hmm I guess...* your right! It never occured to me that you can find the adress by a serial number... She is a beauty (or am I repeating this I've already said xD)

Post# 407449 , Reply# 48 1/19/2010 at 14:56 (5,211 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Water in drum* The water in the drum / sump is from testing at manufacturing. I guess they don't drain it out other than what the pump can pump out on it's own. I'm sure being a Miele, it'll be fine, but to me leaving water in it when it's being shipped in sub-zero regions is not a wise idea. We all know water expands when frozen :-) The pump is finally defrosted and dryed out, and the pump rotates freely now. I'm still waiting for her heart and lungs to come up to room temperature, before I plug her brain in. -Andrew

Post# 407453 , Reply# 49 1/19/2010 at 15:14 (5,211 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)
Checkrate/Likes LOL... Andrew, MD (Miele Doctor)

Post# 407455 , Reply# 50 1/19/2010 at 15:18 (5,211 days old) by logixx (Germany)
Checkrate/Likes *Nice washer!* Now you just need to find out how to enter the washer's programming mode... ;-) Maybe this works One, two, three: Miele W4840 Programming

Post# 407464 , Reply# 51 1/19/2010 at 16:49 (5,211 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)
Checkrate/Likes I wonder if they have the same instructions for a Miele 4800 washer. I would love to increase the water level in my machine.

Post# 407470 , Reply# 52 1/19/2010 at 17:07 (5,211 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)
Checkrate/Likes *So where is the...* dryer? Malcolm

Post# 407471 , Reply# 53 1/19/2010 at 17:11 (5,211 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Dryer* Dryer will be here probably in Mid Feb. They were backordered :( But they still gave me free shipping and the $50 off the dryer, so I can't bitch. At least it's not going to weigh 220lbs!!! Andrew

Post# 407553 , Reply# 54 1/19/2010 at 22:13 (5,210 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *First run video* Here is an unedited video I wanted to upload in a jiffy for you guys. The Miele is still not in her permanent spot as I'm still working on finishing the basement, so that's why the drain hose is duct taped to the laundry sink ;-) LOVE THIS WASHER!!!!!!!!!!! Andrew CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacfanatic's LINK

Post# 407567 , Reply# 55 1/19/2010 at 22:50 (5,210 days old) by aaronfitzy (Pennsylvania)
Checkrate/Likes *cool....* So far its lookin pretty sweet! Wish I could afford a nice machine like that....maybe soon.

Post# 407598 , Reply# 56 1/20/2010 at 05:43 (5,210 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Immer Besser!!!* Congrats Andrew, lovely machine, I`m sure you will have no sleep this week as you plough through the programmes & finish off the laundry room!!! Do you have to use a waste water pump in the laundry area as it is in the basement??

Post# 407617 , Reply# 57 1/20/2010 at 08:19 (5,210 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *No sleep for sure!* Hi Mike, No I just have it draining into the wash tub temporarily as I'll have to move the washer to finish the drywalling and texturing soon. Behind the wall is where all of the plumbing connections and electrical are at, we have standard city plumbing that drains to the sewer system here. I was up intil about 1:00am. Ran a load of towels at 70C to help get rid of any residual oil residue from manufacturing. I have an infrared thermometer, and the target temp of the Miele is right on, 158F, or 70C is the limit here in the US. My LG always struggled to hit target temps, especially if the basement was cold. I then washed my backpack on delicates, and about had an orgasm when I saw the AWESOME high water level abotu 1/4 up the glass. I'll be moving my bed to the basement soon... LOL j/k Andrew

Post# 408032 , Reply# 58 1/21/2010 at 12:17 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Pics* Here are a couple pics of the frozen pump and pump filter that I had to wait to thaw before I could fire her up on Tues night. Also pics of the nice water level on Delicates washing some bath rugs.

Post# 408034 , Reply# 59 1/21/2010 at 12:18 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 408036 , Reply# 61 1/21/2010 at 12:19 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 408037 , Reply# 62 1/21/2010 at 12:19 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 408038 , Reply# 63 1/21/2010 at 12:20 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 408039 , Reply# 64 1/21/2010 at 12:23 (5,209 days old) by neptuneguy27 (Baltimore,MD)
Checkrate/Likes *Andrew* I am so envious of you! I just love your Miele washer! Congratulations on your purchase. Look forward to more pictures and videos :-) Chris

Post# 408050 , Reply# 65 1/21/2010 at 12:56 (5,209 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Backpacks!!!* Hey Andrew I`m sure everything washable will make its way towards a "Miele Programme"...max will have the cleanest bedding around!!!interesting scenario about the freezing water, I`m sure a bit of feedback to them may not go amiss!!! accuracy is one thing that is a Miele advantage...What type of detergent did you use??

Post# 408061 , Reply# 66 1/21/2010 at 13:27 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Detergent* I just bought a jug of this new Tide TotalCare HE, and LOVE IT. Smells so good, especially on Sanitize (70C, 158F). It's our main detergent brand here in the US. If it's possible to be in love with an appliance, I'm living proof! Andrew

Post# 408065 , Reply# 67 1/21/2010 at 13:43 (5,209 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)
Checkrate/Likes One thing you will notice that i have noticed on my Miele that it will make HE liquids suds up like crazy. The drum plays a big part in the suds factor plus so does the fact that HE liquids suds up no matter how much or little one uses of it. If you can get your mitts on Persil Powder or even the MegaPearls then do so. It will unlock that washer's cleaning ability. Tide HE powder does very well also. I have also found that with Liquid HE detergent my 4800 will go into a sudslock. Then I get the light reminding me that it was oversudsed. . Yours may do the same.

Post# 408092 , Reply# 68 1/21/2010 at 14:46 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Suds* Mike, Thanks for the note - after the initial sanitize cycle the machine requires to remove it's spin lock, I decided to do a huge load of towels to help clean out the drum further. Not sure how sudsy it would get, I just used the manufacturer recommendation on the Tide TotalCare to line 2 for a large load. I did sudslock, but line 1 would probably have been about right for the load size. I'm still experimenting with dosage as you have to do with any new washer really. I'll try some Tide HE Powder tonight when I get home to watch Miele TV. :-) Miele W3033, television for men. Andrew

Post# 408110 , Reply# 69 1/21/2010 at 15:49 (5,209 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)
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Post# 408113 , Reply# 70 1/21/2010 at 16:00 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Drum Light* Unfortunately no. It turns off after the initial fill down the door. I do have LED lights that run off AC which I've attached to my Tripod though for filming / viewing :) I have the service manual for the W3033 and it doesn't give any settings for the drum light other than enabling it / disabling it in the service mode. Andrew

Post# 408115 , Reply# 71 1/21/2010 at 16:09 (5,209 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)
Checkrate/Likes oh one thing too is that if your previous washer didnt rinse clothes out well it will show up in the Miele as suds and lots of them. Towels especially are notorious for that.

Post# 408118 , Reply# 72 1/21/2010 at 16:26 (5,209 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *congrats Andrew !* ChesterMike is really right : you can wash such things one wouldn't dare to throw into a washing machine. Camping tents, backpacks, wetsuits, lambswool/cashmere jumpers, loden jackets, raincoats, duvet jackets/coats, ski suits ..... If the W48XX servicemode code is right for the W30XX too you'll be able to adjust the "sensitive" option for a furter rinse and a rinse level like the delicate cycle @ Mike(nmassman)-Liquids : i have no problem, unless I use wool detergents on regular or permapress instead of wool/delicate/handwash cycles. Same applies to my brother's machine with the honeycomb drum. Maybe your liquids are so sudsy like Woolite ? Maybe you've extremly soft water ? Carlo

Post# 408185 , Reply# 73 1/21/2010 at 19:28 (5,209 days old) by appnut (TX)
Checkrate/Likes *Dosage* Andrwe, you gotta also remember that this machine is smaller than the large U.S. front loaders the manufacturers design the dosages for. I find in my 3.1 cu. ft. Frigidaire, line one or line two at the most is more than adequte. A very full load in a 4.4 cu. ft. front loader would probably need line 3 or 4, depending upon the soil leve.

Post# 408216 , Reply# 74 1/21/2010 at 21:05 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Towels Wash* Towels Wash at 70C - I did reduce detergent, still a bit too sudsy :-) I'll knock it back more next time. Enjoy!

Post# 408217 , Reply# 75 1/21/2010 at 21:06 (5,209 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Final Spin* 1300 RPM Spin after the first sanitize wash to clean out the residual oils in the drum from manufacturing.

Post# 408220 , Reply# 76 1/21/2010 at 21:20 (5,209 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)
Checkrate/Likes *Does size matter?* So now that you've had it a little while, any further thoughts on the capacity? I really like the build quality, reliability and wash performance of the smaller, horizontal axis machines. But, since we're a family of four, I'm afraid I'd be chained to the darn thing doing our mountain of laundry. How many are in your household? Do you think the smaller size is an issue?

Post# 408221 , Reply# 77 1/21/2010 at 21:25 (5,208 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Machine Size* There are 2 of us here, and the way I see it, the more loads of wash I get to do in this gem the better :-) I can still load quite a lot of towels in it. I don't mind the reduced capacity as the machine meeting it's target temperatures is a tradeoff. Neither if the LG's I owned with heaters would reach 70C on a regular basis. Generally it would stop at like 63C, 65C. I bought an infrared thermometer to handily check temps at the door glass :) Andrew

Post# 408240 , Reply# 78 1/21/2010 at 23:02 (5,208 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)
Checkrate/Likes Holy Hanna Batman, that's a fast spin!

Post# 408282 , Reply# 79 1/22/2010 at 05:32 (5,208 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *@ Mysteryclock : sit on the river bank and wait ......* I guess they will introduce the latest bigger series (W5000 W6000) in the northamerican markets too. These machines are rated 7 (some even 8 KG) despite the outer size is standard. Check them on the UK mielesite : CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK

Post# 408283 , Reply# 80 1/22/2010 at 05:39 (5,208 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *opps, the Brits still havent the 8 Kg model* ... but we have it (W5983) : CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK

Post# 408290 , Reply# 81 1/22/2010 at 07:00 (5,208 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Coming to a home near you...Soon!!!* Oh Carlo, you are such a tease!!!...LOl, I hear they are on their way!!! my best seller at the moment is the W5740...classic & functional, and thank goodness they have brought out the matching Vented Dryer, the T8722, they also listened to customer & retailer feedback about the grey doored models and so we got the W1756 with its big chrome door!!!

Post# 408292 , Reply# 82 1/22/2010 at 07:02 (5,208 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)
Checkrate/Likes *Size isn't everything...* ...when it comes to actual capability of doing a good/excellent job on the wash.... These machines are rated in our market at 6.5kg (14lb) and are designed to be filled to capacity. That is right to the very top of the drum.... To put this into some perspective... 2 x Queen sized sheets 4 x pillow slips 1 x Queen size quilt cover..... is NOT a capacity load in these machines..... My mother had a 4.5kg (10lb) ASEA and washed for a family of 4 without any issues.... I can only say that you shouldn't be afraid to use the full capacity and capability of a Europeean machine. Having seen videos of American front load machines in action I am always amazed at how underloaded they are given the size of them.... If you're concerned about if a Euro sized machine will suit, ask a retailer of Bosch/Miele/Asko if you can bring a basket of CLEAN laundry in one afternoon or morning (near close/open) to load a machine with what you would normally consider a 'full' load....just remember there is a method to load just like a top loader (where you 'drop')...don't 'scrunch' or 'ball' but rather 'lie' them in. I grab shirts, tracks and jeans around the middle and put them im 'folded' if that makes sense...keep loading until you can just get your hand up over the top of the load....or load till it is really full (and the drum moves front to rear as you try to put things in) and take a heavy shirt out... That will be close to a capacity load in a European machine.....

Post# 408358 , Reply# 83 1/22/2010 at 11:14 (5,208 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *teasing again ...* Mike, why HA toploaders don't catch in UK ? Elux, Whirlpool, BSH, Merloni and Miele don't export them there ... just Candy does ? I saw in your website a Hoover HA TL CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK

Post# 408369 , Reply# 84 1/22/2010 at 12:02 (5,208 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *Underloaded FLs in the US ?* Chris, that makes sense with our machines whose wash bath is at least half an hour long.... But if I think of those american E'lux with extremly low water levels .. their wash part of the cycle is max 21 minutes long ... well I guess I'd underload them too. A full load (as we mean it) takes 5 or even 10 minutes to saturate . Not a case in "our" machines the quick 30 mins cycle is made for very small loads only. For real full loads I'd always push "Extended" in the US mieles Ironically the 220 Volt version of the Affinity sold here takes forever (3 hours !!) to complete a cotton 60�C cycle

Post# 408627 , Reply# 85 1/23/2010 at 08:33 (5,207 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Shipping Struts* I thought I would share what the Miele shipping struts look like. They are very heavy steel, which could handily be used for a weapon if anyone tries to steal the new baby. LOL. I cleaned all the much off of them and took some pictures, then placed them in their respective holders on the back of the machine. Can't lose them this way! Andrew

Post# 408628 , Reply# 86 1/23/2010 at 08:34 (5,207 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 408629 , Reply# 87 1/23/2010 at 08:34 (5,207 days old) by vacfanatic ()
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Post# 408694 , Reply# 88 1/23/2010 at 12:13 (5,207 days old) by mielabor ()
Checkrate/Likes Interesting to see that the transport rods haven't changed since I bought my Miele W765 in 1985. The provision for storing them on the backside is new for me.

Post# 408725 , Reply# 89 1/23/2010 at 14:24 (5,207 days old) by nclh77 ()
Checkrate/Likes Very nice thread and thanx for putting in the time. I watched your videos. I did notice a lot of suds, I never get that close in my LG when using the recommended amount. The water level in your Meile seems the same as my LG with permanent press and the extra water button pushed. What I did notice was a lack of "pause" time to allow the water to soak thru the cloths. Your machine seems to be always spinning, ergo I think that may be creating more suds than my LG. Once again, thanx for one of the best washing machine threads I have ever seen.

Post# 408765 , Reply# 90 1/23/2010 at 17:32 (5,207 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)
Checkrate/Likes Congrats on the 3033... tis basically the American version of the UK model W2652 I own. 70C is still a very reasonable temp, I wouldn't worry too much about it as you will very rarely need above 60 degrees/140F anyway. nclh77... in terms of water soaking through the clothes, that is actually why the drum tumbles in such a way. It will start off slowly to allow water to be plunged and squeezed through the load, speeds up to the distribution tumble to agitate and force water and detergent through the fibres, slows down again to squeeze and plunge the load, and then reverses. Although this action only takes place for the first part of the wash cycle - the last portion of the cycle, at least on the EU machines, is standard 55rpm tumbling backwards and forwards, with a couple seconds pause in between. You are right though in that this action is what causes a lot more sudsing; in fact I've found you don't need that much detergent compared to other frontloaders thanks to the distributing portion of the tumbles. Jon =)

Post# 408833 , Reply# 91 1/23/2010 at 20:29 (5,207 days old) by nclh77 ()
Checkrate/Likes lavamat_jon, interesting choices the manufacturers are making. My LG never spins the cloths like the Miele. It will spin maybe three times in one direction rather slowly, then pause for a while to let the water flow thru the cloths, then spin the other direction a few times, then pause. It does this for the entire wash cycle. I had a Siemens in Germany which would fill to 1/3 of the window and spin constantly with no pause. I think because of the amount of water in it, I never had any sudsing issue with it. May be tough to empirically say which method actually cleans the best.

Post# 408872 , Reply# 92 1/23/2010 at 22:17 (5,206 days old) by appnut (TX)
Checkrate/Likes NCLH77, welcome from another Texan.

Post# 409009 , Reply# 93 1/24/2010 at 12:10 (5,206 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes hi nclh77, I guess your Siemens was a very old machine that uses high levels even in the regular cycle and you were in a place with very hard water. High water level matched with a intensive tumbling cadence is usually a sudsdmaker with medium hard water and really a disaster with soft water. Delicate (hi level) cycles have slow motion not only to be gentle but also to control suds Here we've some places having very soft water. I remember several years ago there was no chance to avoid oversudsing with those high water level machines in those places Still have one of these old water hogs in the garage (it's a Zerowatt) These machines aren't able to wash properly unless they are really full loaded. partial loads tend to roll rather than tumbling. This is the reason for vintage mieles used Hi levels in every part of the cycle except in the main wash. the low level enhances the tumbling action and controls suds. Too much suds reduces cleaning performance in normal cycles as it has a cushioning effect (gentler wash action with rolling and no tumbling)

Post# 409066 , Reply# 94 1/24/2010 at 14:16 (5,206 days old) by bernina (Chicago)
Checkrate/Likes *what a great machine* hi, Andrew, Congratulations on your new 3033! You said" after the initial sanitize cycle the machine requires to remove it's spin lock, I decided to do a huge load of towels to help clean out the drum further. Not sure how sudsy it would get, I just used the manufacturer recommendation on the Tide TotalCare to line 2 for a large load. I did sudslock, but line 1 would probably have been about right for the load size. Do you mind telling me, what this "spin lock" is? and how did you know you had "suds lock" and what did you do to fix it? I'm a lurker in this forum... am in the market for a 3033, too. And have been researching as much as I can. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you sharing your updates! Thanks!

Post# 409125 , Reply# 95 1/24/2010 at 16:55 (5,206 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *spin "lock"* Hi Bernina, since miele washers have the ball valve between tub an drain pump, their manuals recommend to run a 140�F cotton empty cycle not only to clean the tub from cutting oils but also as a sort of initial set-up for sensors. They say the machine can spin just after this "welcome" cycle is done. Indeed I believe this has more to do with the initial activation the "eco ball-valve" . The drain pump moves water to the drain hose and to a small tank behind the detergent drawer. When the pump stops the water in the tank goes back to te pump towards the tub. This way the ball in the valve starts floating and shuts the valve : no water goes back to the tub and -more important- on the next fill the incoming water will fill just the tub and not the drain pump. Detergent and conditioners aren't wasted in the pump and the very only water in the tub is heated. When the pump engages the ball is no more pushed by the tank pressure so the tub is drained. The small tank had been emptied before shipping the machine to the US. They just slightly opened athe coin trap (that can be also used as a emergency drain in case of long time power failure). For the same reason after cleaning the coin trap is better to pour half a gallon of clean water inside the drum Somewhere I have a drawing of this valve. I'll post it as soon as I'll find it

Post# 409127 , Reply# 96 1/24/2010 at 17:01 (5,206 days old) by nclh77 ()
Checkrate/Likes The Siemens machine was about an 89 model and we lived in a small town outside of Bremerhaven called Imsum. Not sure what the water hardness was. I really liked the machine and when I came back to the USA I felt like I had gone back in time with the lack of front loaders in this country. I vowed to get one and am just about as happy as a pig in slop with the variety available now in this country. Just too bad it takes us so long to catch up. I think I was labeled a "communist" once for stating that maybe a front loader may be a good idea in the US.

Post# 409148 , Reply# 97 1/24/2010 at 18:12 (5,206 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Spin Lock Description* Hi Bernina, Here is the description of the spin lock per the service manual for the W 3033.

Post# 409150 , Reply# 98 1/24/2010 at 18:13 (5,206 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *eco-valve* here it is . Indeed this a drawing of a Lavamat AEG, anyway I'm aware also Miele, Whirlpool/Bauknecht and B.S.H use the same principle. The tank for the valve is on the left, here the drawer is still on the right ("old fashion" side). @ NCLH77 : now I get why there Elux and GE sell somewhat cherry red frontloaders LOL

Post# 409152 , Reply# 99 1/24/2010 at 18:18 (5,206 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Brushless Motor* Apparently, in spite of what the Miele brochure indicates on the W 3033, 3035 models, they must be brushless according to this data in the service manual. The service manual has no reference to carbon brushes, either. Also, the motor sounds somewhat "dc brushless" when it rotates, not quite like my LG's, but you can tell it's a different kind of motor than your average brushed motor. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Post# 409153 , Reply# 100 1/24/2010 at 18:21 (5,206 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Foam Sensing* Quite intelligent, if you ask me! Of course it is, for $2000... ;-)

Post# 409156 , Reply# 101 1/24/2010 at 18:29 (5,206 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *shocked !* Andrew, have never seen such a thing ! I guess Miele put such lock to avoid being sued by silly sales/repair people who don't know basics of safety rules. After all, didn't a old lady sue Starbucks (and she DID win) cause she had her mouth scalded while drinking their coffee ??

Post# 409157 , Reply# 102 1/24/2010 at 18:32 (5,206 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes 1 *Miele W3033 Water Intake Diagram* Miele W3033 Water Intake Diagram

Post# 409158 , Reply# 103 1/24/2010 at 18:33 (5,206 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Miele W3033 Water Drain Diagram* Miele W3033 Water Drain Diagram

Post# 409160 , Reply# 104 1/24/2010 at 18:43 (5,206 days old) by favorit ()
Checkrate/Likes *mine has also a different "foam while heating" rou* the heater keeps going on till target temp, but the cadence gets different (longer pauses between reverse tumbles and slower tumbling speed) until foam is reduced, then the cadence goes back to normal. Euro mieler owners, what about your machines ?

Post# 409315 , Reply# 105 1/25/2010 at 13:32 (5,205 days old) by bernina (Chicago)
Checkrate/Likes *the Rosetta Stone!* Wow, you've got the 3033 Service Manual? THANK YOU for sharing the diagrams and technical info. ps Loved your "Welcome Home" sign! (Post# 407239-1/18/2010-19:38) Please tell us you had that mounted on Sintra and stuck out on your front lawn.

Post# 409352 , Reply# 106 1/25/2010 at 15:44 (5,205 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)
Checkrate/Likes I gotta ask...where did you get the manual??? Miele info is hard to get as far as a service manual. I would love to get my hands on one for my w4800 and my t9800 dryer.

Post# 409368 , Reply# 107 1/25/2010 at 16:43 (5,205 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Service Manual* I got it from one of my buddies on www.fixitnow.com... - they have a service repair manual forum you can ask for them if you need help fixing your appliance. Maybe give them a shout. Andrew

Post# 409467 , Reply# 108 1/25/2010 at 20:55 (5,205 days old) by appnut (TX)
Checkrate/Likes Andrew, if you change the default settings of a program, will those same program change me "present" as the last time yo used the program or do you have to reset them all over again if you want to use the same modificaitons for that program vs. the default settings.

Post# 409480 , Reply# 109 1/25/2010 at 21:13 (5,205 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Program Memory* Bob, Yes it does store any settings you change after the program starts. I changed the cycle temperature on the Normal cycle to "No Heat", hit start, then immediately cancelled the program and shut off the washer. Turned it back on, selected Normal, and it remembers the "No Heat". If the power goes out during a cycle, when the power comes back, the washer powers on and resumes the cycle where it left off. Andrew

Post# 409505 , Reply# 110 1/25/2010 at 22:08 (5,204 days old) by appnut (TX)
Checkrate/Likes Andrew THANKS!! Very impressive, particularly that the cycle picks back up where it left off after a power glitch or loss.

Post# 409605 , Reply# 111 1/26/2010 at 08:38 (5,204 days old) by bernina (Chicago)
Checkrate/Likes *4840 and 3033 Normal cycle* hi, Andrew, A lot of people seem to think that these new Mieles do not use the heater at all for the "normal" cycle. Could you clear this up for us? Does it or doesn't it? Thanks!

Post# 409804 , Reply# 112 1/26/2010 at 20:33 (5,204 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)
Checkrate/Likes *Forgot to ask...* ...once you get the dryer in are you going to stack them, put them on pedestals or leave them as-is?

Post# 409819 , Reply# 113 1/26/2010 at 21:36 (5,203 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Heater Use / Pedestals* The heater does work in normal mode, at least on mine. The only cycle that I questioned it operating was Delicates. With the very high water level, and cold water only fill, it was obviously not reaching '40' C. I emailed Miele and they advised that Delicates program is designed with no/heat and VERY low heat for the delicates. In spite of what the manual shows of 40C, it's actually a temp. Makes sense - we all know that US models cannot heat water as fast as european models due to the ~1000 watt heaters. I have confirmed in my other cycles that he machine does reach target temps though. (Unlike my LGs, which fail to reach target temperatures about 5 out of 10 washes). I've got an infrared thermometer to check door glass temp on the Miele. I will probably order Pedestals for the Mieles, but that'll be after I finish the basement. I've still got to buy slate floor tile etc. Still have at least $1000 to go on the basement project! Andrew

Post# 409823 , Reply# 114 1/26/2010 at 21:46 (5,203 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)
Checkrate/Likes Are you tired of it yet? I guess I could make room for it in the garage - wash rags in it or store a dishwasher on it. Hee hee. Just beautiful, I love that fast spin!

Post# 409838 , Reply# 115 1/26/2010 at 23:53 (5,203 days old) by alr2903 (TN)
Checkrate/Likes Wow, Very Nice, enjoy..alr2903

Post# 411922 , Reply# 116 2/2/2010 at 09:09 (5,197 days old) by bernina (Chicago)
Checkrate/Likes *www.fixitnow.com* hi, Andrew, Just wanted to say thanks very much for telling me about "fixitnow.com" I asked, and they sent me a copy of the Miele 3033 102 page "Descriptive Technical Documentation" service manual. === Can I ask about your installation/setup? Was your washer set up by delivery techs, or did you do it yourself? Have you had to move the machine by yourself, or did delivery people place it? I ask because it's so heavy. Am wondering if you can offer any tips about moving it. Thanks again!

Post# 412036 , Reply# 117 2/2/2010 at 18:00 (5,197 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Very Heavy* I think it weighs close to 240lbs - definately NOT something you can move on your own. I had to help the delivery driver carry it off the truck into the garage, and then I was able to scoot it inside to warm up by placing an old rug over the door threashold. I had to get my friend to help me carry it downstairs though. I've got the dryer on the way soon, should ship next week sometime. The Washer has recessed carry handles on the bottom at the front, and the overhang at the back. I opted to hold on to the feet in front while my assistant took hold of the back by the carry handles when we moved it downstairs. These have solid cast iron cradles that stabilize the drum, which is why it's so heavy.

Post# 412358 , Reply# 118 2/3/2010 at 22:23 (5,195 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)
Checkrate/Likes *Good grief!* 240lb for that tiny thing? My Titanic-sized Bosch Nexxt 500 is approximately ~220lb, and it is much larger than the small Miele's I've seen. That's build quality!

Post# 412361 , Reply# 119 2/3/2010 at 22:43 (5,195 days old) by lip2000 ()
Checkrate/Likes Isn't the Nexxt mostly plastic(outside shell)? I know the latest Korean units have a ton of plastic

Post# 412362 , Reply# 120 2/3/2010 at 22:45 (5,195 days old) by lip2000 ()
Checkrate/Likes Interesting how the LCD display and the whole front panel in general is exactly the same as the 4840. The shipping struts are a bit different though...the 4840 has some plastic pieces as well

Post# 412546 , Reply# 121 2/4/2010 at 13:56 (5,195 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)
Checkrate/Likes lip2000, Mine has a metal top, back and sides... can't recall if the front is plastic or not. The control panel and most of the door cover is though, and in fact the outer plastic "lens cover" on the washer window is a tiny bit loose and rattles during high-speed spin. One gripe I have is that the top (at least) is just painted as opposed to a more durable finish method, and is very scratched up from just detergent boxes, clothes and the occasional short-term laundry basket sitting up there. I've never had any other washer get this scratched up this fast from just regular use.

Post# 413220 , Reply# 122 2/6/2010 at 20:03 (5,193 days old) by vacfanatic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Updates on Lotus* Well I've been super swamped at work so haven't done much with the basement lately. I've got most of the drywall done and ready for texture, and I've already got my texture sprayer a few weeks ago. Thought I'd share a preview of the lighted detergent cubbie (sanded and ready for texture) with more appropriate items inside. Also, a nice size comparison shot to the LG dryer vs Miele Washer, and the utility sink and countertop I put in :-) Slow progress, but I'm also going to probably put down ceramic tile. My partner will be home from Antartica this week hopefully, weather permitting, so he wants to go pick out tile. Had to change up the plumbing for the Miele drain hose, which cleaverly is 1-1'4" and able to be sealed to a drain stack with a compression fitting. Makes the water drain much quieter vs my old top loader whirlpool or even the LG that I had to stick inside the 2" standpipe unsealed. Also, I've reached my 100th hour tonight on the Miele, bless her heart. I've named her Lotus. (She's painted Lotus White) LOL. Her husband T8003 Dryer is in finally! I need to get that shipped although I'm not exactly in a huge hurry. I probably won't install it until the basement is finished, just more to move out of the way when I'm doing my remodeling down here. I'll post pics of it when it gets here in a couple of weeks probably, and thank god he doesn't weigh 250lbs like his wife does... Andrew

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Post# 413249 , Reply# 129 2/6/2010 at 21:24 (5,192 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()
Checkrate/Likes I think it uses an actual 3 phase motor with a modified sine wave applied to it(VFD module). I won't know for sure until I see the motor.

Post# 414142 , Reply# 130 2/10/2010 at 01:53 (5,189 days old) by mieleforme ()
Checkrate/Likes Persil detergent and a Rowenta iron, You're as bad as me man. Nothing but the best i see :) Nice set up buy the way!

Post# 414143 , Reply# 131 2/10/2010 at 02:04 (5,189 days old) by mieleforme ()
Checkrate/Likes Persil detergent and a Rowenta iron, you're as bad as me man. Nothing but the best I see :) Nice set up buy the way!

Post# 1144377 , Reply# 132 3/12/2022 at 13:49 (776 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)
Checkrate/Likes *miele* How are they coming years later? Sorry to revive this thread. I just wanted to check back with you.

Post# 1144419 , Reply# 133 3/12/2022 at 23:24 (775 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes Jerome, Vacfanatic is not a member here anymore, so you will probably get no answer from him.

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