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| Post# 402758 12/30/2009 at 07:42 (5,231 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
I finally uploaded my video of my 2009 Speed Queen AWN542 TOL TL. I captured all the functions: fill, wash, spray/spin 1, rinse, and final spin and abbreviated the time. The video quality is a bit low due to file size, but still pretty good. I plan to make more (other cycles/speeds) as soon as I get new video editing software. I hope you enjoy!
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| Post# 402759 , Reply# 1 12/30/2009 at 07:44 (5,231 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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Darn Link... | ||
| Post# 402784 , Reply# 2 12/30/2009 at 10:25 (5,231 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Camera Angle | ||
| Post# 402786 , Reply# 3 12/30/2009 at 10:39 (5,231 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 402787 , Reply# 4 12/30/2009 at 10:43 (5,231 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Wonder
I wonder if the weight of the load combined with the weight of the motor/pump position causes the machine to lean forward. I suppose you could try to verify the tension on each of the springs underneath. ( I think there are six, if not mistaken ) Otherwise, you might try to adjust the machine to pitch slightly to the rear and see if that improves balance. Although, honestly, it probably doesn't affect the performance of the machine a single bit. Glad you waited to post this video after I got my Imperials, I might have waivered back to a TL machine. Malcolm Malcolm | ||
| Post# 402788 , Reply# 5 12/30/2009 at 10:54 (5,231 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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That could be it...since most of the parts are "up front". I wonder if anyone else experience this? Most SQ owners will never notice since lid has to be down before agitation without the bypass. Hmmm... It only does it when heavy loads. I washed a huge comforter thing in it one time and it was very severe, but never got off balance...hasn't budged in 2 months...not a even a centimeter. If you notice in the video, once the water is gone, it's back on center. I've pushed the agitator around in all directions to make sure nothing was wrong (without clothes), and it springs back to center. :? | ||
| Post# 402789 , Reply# 6 12/30/2009 at 10:56 (5,231 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Spin Balance | ||
Post# 402798 , Reply# 7 12/30/2009 at 11:55 (5,231 days old) by yogitunes  (New Jersey) |
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210 degree arc
the agitation arc is 210 degrees in one direction....the only manufacturer with a transmission to do that, amazing of 2 designs that they created can give you 210......whirlpool and maytag belt drives give you only 180 degrees.....some even less still an excellent machine.....hard to choose which one thanks for the video | ||
| Post# 402803 , Reply# 8 12/30/2009 at 12:33 (5,231 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 402804 , Reply# 9 12/30/2009 at 12:34 (5,231 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 402805 , Reply# 10 12/30/2009 at 12:38 (5,231 days old) by mtn1584 (USA) | ||
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DanMan My SQ also leans foward while washing, and my machine is level. Don't worry about it..when she's finished, the tub is always perfectly centered. Mike | ||
| Post# 402807 , Reply# 11 12/30/2009 at 12:41 (5,231 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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Another video...
Short video with close up of agitator, large load, several sheets and a blanket--note great turnover for such a large load.
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| Post# 402814 , Reply# 12 12/30/2009 at 13:50 (5,230 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Leaning | ||
| Post# 402839 , Reply# 14 12/30/2009 at 16:13 (5,230 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 402875 , Reply# 15 12/30/2009 at 17:42 (5,230 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Laundry Detergent | ||
| Post# 402889 , Reply# 16 12/30/2009 at 18:52 (5,230 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Purex Fabric Softener Is great stuff, and much cheaper than Downey. Even in my front loader, I find that the Downey gunks up in the dispenser just like it did with our old Whirlpool Top Loader. Andrew | ||
| Post# 402897 , Reply# 17 12/30/2009 at 19:50 (5,230 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Apparently, 'indexing' is normal operating action of Speed Queen washers. | ||
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Post# 402898 , Reply# 18 12/30/2009 at 20:13 (5,230 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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The way I measure arc is by placing a piece of black electrical tape, cut thinner, across top of the agitator, and set machine for a slower agitation, and take notice of an imaginary point of how the outside edge of the tape cross each other, on a WP or Maytag they just touch with out crossing, this is half way which would be 180 in one direction. a simple way to look at a whirlpool was the agitator cap had a "W" on it, while at neutral it would be nomally read horizontal, while agitating the "W" became an "M"...on a similar idea of a SQ, the "W" would almost become a "3" so to speak.... You know you could also raise that water level up another inch or two.... Another classic sound to these SQ is the legendary "gulping" of water from under the agitator as it starts to spin.....Alliance could have kept the aireated fill flume to keep it as classic as possible...but a super machine none the less.....if my neptunes ever give out, this will probably be my next 2 sets, although 2 stacked FL is a nice idea too.... | ||
| Post# 402955 , Reply# 19 12/31/2009 at 06:40 (5,230 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Stacked | ||
| Post# 402959 , Reply# 20 12/31/2009 at 06:55 (5,230 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.) | ||
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Same thing with mine. The tub leans forward during the wash and rinse, but is centered after the spin cycles. I contacted Speed Queen about this and was assured this was normal. So far the machine is almost 4 years old and haven't had an issue yet. | ||
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Post# 403068 , Reply# 21 12/31/2009 at 18:45 (5,229 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 403082 , Reply# 22 12/31/2009 at 19:32 (5,229 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 403537 , Reply# 24 1/3/2010 at 08:38 (5,227 days old) by autowasherfreak () | ||
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If I could win the lottery I would have a SQ fl'er, SP tl'er, and the double dryer. I like the SQ agitator better than the dual action agitators by Whirlpool/Maytag. | ||
| Post# 403552 , Reply# 25 1/3/2010 at 09:59 (5,227 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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The SQ agitator started it all for me. I think the only 'back and forth' agitator left on the market. I hate those corkscrew things. BORING. Watching my SQ is like being in a time machine. :) The Dryer Dryer unit is cool, but you have to run another 220 line to get it to work. But with both of those things on, nearly 11,000 watts of dryer going--that's a huge amount of power. If it's a gas line, just T off supply. | ||
| Post# 403701 , Reply# 26 1/4/2010 at 01:28 (5,226 days old) by strongenough78 (California) | ||
It seems like the Speed Queen top loaders are pretty much the answer for those who want vintage style washing, but in a brand new machine. I myself am wanting to hopefully someday get myself a Speed Queen set. You get a solid, one piece agitator, the slower, longer washing strokes that many people seem to miss, and a 710 rpm spin speed WITHOUT any modifications. Granted you can get the same stroke speed and a 750 rpm spin speed out of a vintage Maytag with the 50 HZ pully set up, but from how it looks, the Speed Queen has a larger tub about the same stroke speed and only 40 less rpm spin speed right from the factory. And the versatility you get with many different cycle combinations and infinite variable water level that makes laundry day so much better. It would be nice to see more and more Speed Queen sets in Americas homes.
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| Post# 403845 , Reply# 27 1/4/2010 at 21:04 (5,225 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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Surprisingly, Maytag 806 and 712 has a larger tub. Not much, 1" taller and 3/4" wider than Speed Queen tub. The 50 hz pully set regular wash stroke becomes 77 OPM and the fast spin is 757 RPM. | ||
| Post# 403849 , Reply# 28 1/4/2010 at 21:38 (5,225 days old) by strongenough78 (California) | ||
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Cool. | ||
| Post# 403854 , Reply# 29 1/4/2010 at 22:01 (5,225 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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Post# 403859 , Reply# 30 1/4/2010 at 22:13 (5,225 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia) |
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Dan is right... | ||
| Post# 403863 , Reply# 31 1/4/2010 at 22:51 (5,225 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 403875 , Reply# 32 1/5/2010 at 00:19 (5,225 days old) by strongenough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 404701 , Reply# 33 1/8/2010 at 21:40 (5,221 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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Splish Splash... | ||
| Post# 404766 , Reply# 34 1/9/2010 at 08:09 (5,221 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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210 Degree Agitation Arc
There was some discussion on the agitation arc of Speed Queens...being in the experimental mood the other day, I placed a red and black mark on the agitator with a dry erase marker. It appears to be 180 degree back and forth at first glance, but if you will look closely the agitator is turning around as well as the color of the marks eventually swap position. So, not sure how that 210 is measured. Medium load, hot water, whites, with Borax. Enjoy!
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| Post# 404833 , Reply# 35 1/9/2010 at 13:21 (5,221 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Balance | ||
| Post# 404848 , Reply# 36 1/9/2010 at 14:47 (5,220 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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A properly matched load is a thing of pride amoung us washer people. :) It also makes for an entertaining load. I'm glad I've been recording my Speed Queen--sure has cut down on water usage as I don't have to rewash stuff just for entertainment. :) So when laundry day does come around it's like going to a live concert. LOL
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| Post# 404853 , Reply# 37 1/9/2010 at 15:31 (5,220 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Agreement | ||
| Post# 404944 , Reply# 38 1/10/2010 at 02:42 (5,220 days old) by strongenough78 (California) | ||
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Well I can definitely see where the marks overlap each other, but if it's 210 in each direction you'd think the whole thing wouldn't index the way it does. You can obviously see how each stopping point eventually does a complete revolution after a minute or so. Unless it is 210 in each direction, but the CCW tub indexing causes the whole thing to shift including the agitator.
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| Post# 404945 , Reply# 39 1/10/2010 at 02:44 (5,220 days old) by strongenough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 405012 , Reply# 40 1/10/2010 at 10:24 (5,220 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 405054 , Reply# 41 1/10/2010 at 11:50 (5,220 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Indexing Minimal
Dan, The indexing of the tub looks minimal to me. Probably less today then when freshly installed. I would expect it to stop altogether over the next few weeks. I suppose your machine doesn't get the usage that most of these machines do in the commercial environment or it would have stopped by now. I agree. The agitation certainly does appear much more gentle than the DD machines on the market. Even the F&P machine I had a while back had questionable gentleness as the lower agitator fins seemed to grab garments and drag them through the water at the bottom of the tub. 540 degrees in one direction then back just doesn't seem gentle to me long term. Malcolm | ||
| Post# 405076 , Reply# 42 1/10/2010 at 12:28 (5,220 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 407268 , Reply# 43 1/18/2010 at 23:02 (5,211 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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Empty Load...
9 minute video of Speed Queen toploader without clothes...demonstrating the long agitator arc by watching the "rocking" motion of the wash water--very much like classic wringer washers of a bygone era. I love my Speed Queen!
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| Post# 407485 , Reply# 44 1/19/2010 at 18:16 (5,210 days old) by fridgiman () | ||
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Love the video! Great wash action. Was just wondering, what type of lint filtration system does it use ? Jim | ||
| Post# 407509 , Reply# 45 1/19/2010 at 19:39 (5,210 days old) by andrewinorlando () | ||
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Have you adjusted the maximum water level of the machine beyond the factory settings? Or does it fill all the way to the top at the highest setting?? | ||
| Post# 407512 , Reply# 46 1/19/2010 at 19:47 (5,210 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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Yep, otherwise with the new EPA standards, it would only fill to what would normally be a "medium" load. The fact that I could increase the load with a little skill is why I purchased it. Toploaders are an indangered species, unfortunately. With clothes, the water is about an inch lower than what you see...with all the wash motion it does look a bit deeper than it is...as you can see at the beginning of the video. I'm not sure of what type of lint system it uses...anyone else know? | ||
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Post# 407543 , Reply# 47 1/19/2010 at 21:51 (5,210 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Top Loaders Need Not Become An "Endangered" Specie
There are ways to work around and address problems caused by energy use. However given the current state of appliance making in the United States, the cost to benefit ratio probaby simply does not add up. Water use could be reduced by going to solid inner tubs, or perhaps tubs with many micro holes, thus reducing the amount of water required. Increasing final spin speeds to 1140 (as was wont of vintage Frigidare "Jet Action" washing machines, would greatly increase the Energy Star ratings of top loaders as it would leave less water for dryers to evaporate. Designing better spray rinse systems would reduce the need for deep rinsing for many loads, though it could always be an option. Know for a fact from using my Vintage Hoover TT, spray rinses done correctly, are as effective as deep rinses. Of course if one is rushing to the bottom of the barrel and selling top loading washing machines for a few hundred dollars, then why bother? L. | ||
| Post# 407604 , Reply# 48 1/20/2010 at 06:36 (5,210 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Lint Filtering | ||
| Post# 407882 , Reply# 49 1/20/2010 at 22:45 (5,209 days old) by strongenough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 407886 , Reply# 50 1/20/2010 at 23:05 (5,209 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 407900 , Reply# 51 1/21/2010 at 00:25 (5,209 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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New Speed Queen Ads!
Needs to be some in the US as well. Nice to see at least something...
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| Post# 408238 , Reply# 52 1/21/2010 at 23:00 (5,208 days old) by strongenough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 408289 , Reply# 53 1/22/2010 at 06:57 (5,208 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee) | ||
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