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Post# 74026   7/17/2005 at 19:45 (6,857 days old) by mulls ()        

Hello all
Gonna remodel the kitchen and replace the DW-which make do you ladies and gentlemen recommend-I went to Lowes today and looked around and was impressed with the looks of the KitchenAid.
Thanks
Tom





Post# 74085 , Reply# 1   7/18/2005 at 08:27 (6,857 days old) by Stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        
be sure to check out thread #2422

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Tom,
Be sure to check out the thread #2422 that is further down the page, lots of comments on many different machines. It will come down to your budget and what features you want. There's a lot of DW out there for around $400 that are decent, you can spend more than that for silent operation, cabinet facing, cutlery third rack (in the 'Rolls Royce' aka Miele)and on and on...We really like our Sears (Whirlpool Made) model 1602, it is quiet, flexible and ex large capacity. Now that we have what is known as a 'tall tub' we would never go back to a standard tub. Did some baking the other day and loaded a large mixing bowl and the other items, added enzyme based Cascade complete...and let her rip! Another thing we like about our KM is that the 'smart' cycle senses how dirty the load is. We never pre-rinse but do scrape. The baking load was clean and dry (hot!) in a little over one hour, ready for our dinner guests.
Best,
Robert


Post# 74109 , Reply# 2   7/18/2005 at 12:15 (6,857 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Not thrilled with (the default) one final rinse in my KA!!

Post# 74113 , Reply# 3   7/18/2005 at 12:27 (6,857 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Bosch is definitely the way to go...removeable/adjustable upper rack with a shower spray for tall items, SS tub, and not only 1 final rinse...plus you can't beat the styling on any model!

Post# 74162 , Reply# 4   7/18/2005 at 18:28 (6,856 days old) by agiflow ()        

I especially like the Bosch models like yours Austin in all SS.
Sharp looking machines.


Post# 74163 , Reply# 5   7/18/2005 at 18:36 (6,856 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I agree on most points, but I HATE when the flatware racks are in the middle of the front of the lower rack. Kills space for bulky pots..

Does the Bosch have a heated dry? Doesn't matter to me in that I never use it....


Post# 74174 , Reply# 6   7/18/2005 at 20:11 (6,856 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Steve, a lot of the Bosch models now have splitable moveable silver ware baskets.

Post# 74201 , Reply# 7   7/18/2005 at 22:38 (6,856 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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wooo-hooooo my next machine appears to have been chosen.

Butsadly by the time I "need" one the timers will be gone...


Post# 74204 , Reply# 8   7/18/2005 at 22:46 (6,856 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I have a newer WP-KA and replaced it with a VINTAGE KA machine(Hobart built)MUCH BETTER!! Would recommend an older KA over the new one.The new KA machine is now sort of lonely in the kitchen corner.Its electronic timer got fried AGAIN by a storm.The older one is physically Sturdier too.

Post# 74281 , Reply# 9   7/19/2005 at 23:58 (6,855 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
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I highly recomend the LG models!!! the are the ONLY ones with the heating elements completely removed from the wash tub.this enables you to truly randomly load your dishwasher.It uses about 4.5 gallons of water per cycle and unlike all other import dishwashers it has a built in stainless steel hard food disposer so you need not pre rinse any dishes or pots and pans.It also enables you to do a half load in the upper OR lower rack or a regular load using both.The booster will bring the hot water fed into the tub up to 165 F.for sanitizing in the main wash as well as the final rinse.Go to www.lgappliances.com... to see the available models as well as their features.Good luck!Remember,Consumer Reports recently rated the Bosch dishwashers among the very worst for frequincy of repair!!!

Post# 74303 , Reply# 10   7/20/2005 at 07:39 (6,855 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

In the mid-90's I bought a Maytag dishwasher that was very solidly built. The door alone weighed a ton. That thing cleaned like no other dishwasher I have ever had. It was around $400.00.
Unfortunately, Maytag dishwashers of today don't have the same quality they did 10 years ago, they seem more flimsy. But not any more flimsy than any other brand out there.
The house we are in now came with the BOL Kenmore(GE) series. Just a knob that states "On" & "Off" and a switch to select heated dry or air dry. It's about 11 years old. I have seen it still being sold for about $179.00. It cleans just fine, but it will wake the dead while running. Go figure.
If I were to buy a dishwasher today, I'd probably look at the Whirlpools. They have their silverware rack in the door, leaving space for large pots and pans on the bottom rack. The $379-$400 range seems to get you a MOL or near TOL machine these days.


Post# 75955 , Reply# 11   12/31/2069 at 18:00 (19,839 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
Concealed Element

Hi Laundromat,

I think you'll find most european dishwashers have a concealed element, IE Miele, Asko, Bosch, European Whirlpool, F & P and so on.

Regards

Nathan


Post# 76303 , Reply# 12   8/3/2005 at 07:36 (6,841 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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LG dishwashers are great and use about 6 gallons of water per load! You may use either the upper or lower racks to do a half load of dishes or do both at the same time for a full load.They have a stainless steel built in hard food disposer,the upper rack holds 10 or 12 inch dinner plates,the lower rack can be made completely flat,the heating element used for drying and the booster ellement used to heat the wash and rinse water up to 168F degrees are both out of sight enabiling you to wash plastics in the upper AND lower racks without melting!They are so quiet that you can take a wind up alarm clock and set it two go off.When it does,you can not hear it!!!!!!!!!!!!All high grade stainless steel,no filters to clean and 3 speed wash spray.WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

Post# 76370 , Reply# 13   8/3/2005 at 11:45 (6,841 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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My AEG dishwasher is still running fine, but when I would need a new one I would certainly buy a Miele. I love the third rack for the flatware which gives you more space in the bottom rack. Always clean flatware, enough space for bulky pots. Concealed heating elements, automatic cycle on the new models etc. etc. etc. The new TOL models also use only 2.6 gallons but clean still wonderfully!


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