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Post# 454851   8/5/2010 at 20:42 (5,012 days old) by stopmeister72 (Irving, TX)   |   | |
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Have a somewhat new Kenmore Elite tall tub dishwasher with turbozone mod - 665.13752k602. Was wondering if there is something you can do to trick the sensor to get a full rinse instead of a purge after the wash so I can get 2 full rinses. Even with a dirty load and using the Smartwash - still only does a purge. If I add water, doesn't purge near as long and pretty much just goes into drain.
Here is a link to a video - just ordered a Kitchenaid wash arm to put in it. |
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Post# 454859 , Reply# 1   8/5/2010 at 21:43 (5,012 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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John, I have a higher-end model than yours, but they're pretty much the same. You're going to have to simply only use the Pots Pans cycle if you want to full post-wash rinses. That's the only cycle that has that built in to its programming. My Smart Wash will do it sometimes, but I cannot figure what specifically tricks it into doing that. When I think I have it figured out, it fools me. The full 2 rinses occur on SmartWash if the load is extremely extremely dirty, or the machie is completely full with dishes and such and is pretty dirty load, or if the initial fill temp is like 100 or so degrees and that's it. Also if you use any options such as TZ, high-temp wash, or sani-rinse that will negate any cycle variances from soil.
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Post# 454861 , Reply# 2   8/5/2010 at 21:46 (5,012 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 454887 , Reply# 4   8/6/2010 at 00:25 (5,012 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)   |   | |
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Post# 454912 , Reply# 6   8/6/2010 at 06:36 (5,011 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 454935 , Reply# 7   8/6/2010 at 09:47 (5,011 days old) by stopmeister72 (Irving, TX)   |   | |
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The wash arm I ordered is for a new Kitchenaid so there is actually one less hole than the whirlpool and the holes on the wash arm are smaller that what we are used to in a Hobart Kitchenaid; plus they use the same pumps so I think the pressure will be good if not a little more. On the old Wmc1 Hobart undercounter I had the holes in the hydrospeed were actually bigger than my current Hobart (WM5h, but it has a wash arm on top so i guess they needed to make the holes smaller so there was enough pressure between the two arms. Should get it in Monday so will take another video. It was kind of hard to hold the knife, flashlight, and the phone to get a video but was fun. Will see what happens and share :-)
My cycle chart has the same sequence for pots and pans as the normal and china cycle only the temps and times are different. Under the Smart Wash cycle chart - every thing is a purge except for full heavy load and I have been running a bunch of those but still get a purge. Sometimes I just have it do a quick rinse after. Have thought about doing a quick rinse first with detergent then just putting some detegent in for the prewash so that way I would get 2 washes a rinse, purge and a rinse. Only thing, the wash temps wouldn't be as hot or as long but will try and see what happens. |
Post# 455003 , Reply# 8   8/6/2010 at 15:05 (5,011 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 455066 , Reply# 9   8/6/2010 at 19:27 (5,011 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 455154 , Reply# 10   8/7/2010 at 09:39 (5,010 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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I don't know, this looks kinda good to me, at least it looks like it would remove remaining detergent and loose soil. What does a full rinse look like? How much more water does a full rinse require? |
Post# 455160 , Reply# 11   8/7/2010 at 10:10 (5,010 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 455164 , Reply# 12   8/7/2010 at 10:27 (5,010 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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John, I've pulled up both your user manual and my user manual. I can see where you think all but the heaviest soil on SmartWash has nothing but a purge. Trust me, even with an empty dishwasher on Pots & Pans, it does two full post-wash rinses and not just a purge and rinse. To be honest, unless you are completely present for the entire cycle, you really have no idea what the sequence is for each load, especially if you use smartWash without any options selected other than heated dry. I know because my computer is next to the kitchen and I'm present for every load at least until the beginning of the final rinse. (It's even been nkown to extremely rarely do a full two rinses on Normal Wash, but I haven't been able to figure out a reasonable correlation to load type when it does that). My loads usually run between 2 hours and 6 miknutes to 2 hours and 15 minutes. (My water heater is set between 115 & 120). I have occassionally had it run the entire 145 minuites (2 hours and 25 minutes)--the maximum number of minutes as stated in the user manual for longest Smartwash.
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Post# 455254 , Reply# 14   8/7/2010 at 17:54 (5,010 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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OOPS sorry I thought I was looking at a purge. Any one know how much water was moving around in this video? |
Post# 455306 , Reply# 15   8/7/2010 at 22:30 (5,010 days old) by stopmeister72 (Irving, TX)   |   | |
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I ran a Pots and Pans cycle today and you're right, it did do two full rinses. Guess this will be my "normal cycle" from now on. Next thing on my list is to get some STPP.
Looks like the other wash arm in going to take longer to get than I thought, but can't wait to see if there is any difference in performance. |
Post# 455309 , Reply# 16   8/7/2010 at 22:45 (5,010 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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me i also have a model with turbozone and i use the smartwash cycle and have not seen any diffrence in the cycle temp or any purge during the wash i can say that the only time it purge is if the sensor notice that the qwater is dirty so it purges the dirty water in order to replace it with fresh water
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Post# 460651 , Reply# 19   9/1/2010 at 20:32 (4,985 days old) by 2dishwasher ()   |   | |
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All I did was disconnect the sprayer pump from the roof of the machine. It hangs a couple of millimeters down, but its Working! |
Post# 460671 , Reply# 20   9/1/2010 at 21:43 (4,985 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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