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Post# 82959   9/12/2005 at 16:31 (6,800 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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found a fun kitchenaid portable on craigs list and got it for 25 bucks..got it all cleaned and resealed and ready to go but id like to know what year it might be the mod # is KDS-57A




Post# 82961 , Reply# 1   9/12/2005 at 16:34 (6,800 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
could use new racks

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the machine is in really great shape but the racks really should be replaced.. does anyone have a good set of racks that would fit this machine that they would like to sell?? if so please let me know

Post# 82965 , Reply# 2   9/12/2005 at 16:41 (6,800 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
what year am i

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My sister had almost the same machine. Only hers didn't have the black energy button on the left. This is about between a 73 74 75 model I think.
Peter


Post# 82974 , Reply# 3   9/12/2005 at 17:04 (6,800 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
Nice machine

You have had a run of good luck. Good for you. Michael

Post# 82976 , Reply# 4   9/12/2005 at 17:12 (6,800 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Awesome find!!

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The 17 series had a long production run, May 1971 through July 1976. Yours has the energy saver button on the left side and the "A" in the model number so it's probably toward the end of the production run. It was reputed to be the finest of KitchenAid dishwashers, the last of the 40 gallon per minute spray from a single level wash arm (hydro-sweep) turning at 45 RPM had pressure coming from each arm opening at approx. 10 PSI. Now that's a Hydro Sweep!

The upper rack probably won't be hard to replace, but the lower rack might prove a little more elusive. The original, plates down the center, was discontinued and replaced with the 18 and later series rack design (plates on the left side of rack) which will work just fine, but not be OEM - points off from the judges ;-)


Post# 82983 , Reply# 5   9/12/2005 at 18:14 (6,800 days old) by fixerman ()        

Whats wrong with the racks? Look pretty good in the pics. I may have a KDS17A and KDS18 in my warehouse. I don't know what the racks are like. Would have to check out their condition if you are interested.

Post# 83001 , Reply# 6   9/12/2005 at 20:01 (6,800 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Fancy

Does it have a timer dial on the lower panel, or is it
button selection only?


Post# 83008 , Reply# 7   9/12/2005 at 21:14 (6,800 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
I Bought My First 17 in 1976-77

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It wasn't the A series with the energy saver button. The next one I bought was in the fall of 1979 when I moved to California and it was the 18. Greg is right, there is nothing like the wash action of these machines. I have a regular KDS-17 in my kitchen and an almost brand-new KDS-57 convertible portable sold to me by a club member from MA. It's in my laundry room off the kitchen and keeps the KDI-14 company. The 57 was used maybe 10 times. Absolutely like new. I didn't think that I would like the Harvest Gold, but it is somehow very retro and doesn't stand out like a sore thumb, actually beautiful.

Actually, I believe that the upper and lower racks are matched. The later racks, which you can get new have a flatter upper rack. The upper rack of the 17 is more pitched from the center to match the center loading of the dinner plates on the lower rack. Keep looking, you may still find a set out there.


Post# 83009 , Reply# 8   9/12/2005 at 21:16 (6,800 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
Timer Dial

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They did away with the timer dial on the lower panel on the 16 series. You got to love the stainless steel rails along the sides so the the machine looks totally built in. Very classy.

Post# 83010 , Reply# 9   9/12/2005 at 21:17 (6,800 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Oooh. Daddy like!

veg


Post# 83023 , Reply# 10   9/12/2005 at 22:30 (6,800 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Chris that is another beauty!! I agree that the racks really don't look all that bad. Have you ran this machine yet? Looks like a keeper. Terry

Post# 83056 , Reply# 11   9/13/2005 at 06:15 (6,799 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
RACK WORK

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well i touched up the racks..and they look better but they do have a cancer problem..wanted to find a better set before they are all gone..i got a wild hair and took off the top to refinish it, but i do want to test it out this eve and see how well it washes.. hope fixerman reads this.. id love it if youd have a chance to look at the racks you have..as greg says i want to keep the judges happy

Post# 83097 , Reply# 12   9/13/2005 at 13:57 (6,799 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
My all time favourite KA!

Of my life with dishwashers, 1973-2002, and again 2005---, most of my machines have been portables, and I love the guide bar/towel bar on this machine.

To the best of my recollection, no other manufacturer put a guide/towel bar on their portables.

Now, all portables I have seen lately have plastic/laminate tops, and not real wood. The top on my new GE would be too thin to add a guide bar worthy of the name.


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 83137 , Reply# 13   9/13/2005 at 21:14 (6,799 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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You're right about the handles on the KA machines, I always thought that made moving much easier, but then they didn't have a suitable handle on the panel like Kenmore, Maytag, GE, etc.

Post# 83229 , Reply# 14   9/14/2005 at 08:38 (6,798 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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I have a lead on what I think is a similar model, but have a question: is this machine--or Kitchenaids in general--convertible to built-in? Got no room for a portable, but I'd love to have a vintage DW.

veg


Post# 83320 , Reply# 15   9/14/2005 at 18:38 (6,798 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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VEG, These KAs were portable/convertible last I remember. Just like Greg's Kenmore. A conversion kit purchase was required. But I"m sure the astute dudes here can improvise.

Post# 83326 , Reply# 16   9/14/2005 at 19:29 (6,798 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
KitchenAids of This Era

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Came in either convertible/portable as shown above, a front loading portable and a top loading portable. The convertible portables came in the whole range - Superba/Imperial/Custom. The convertibles were really built-ins with panels and a top. If you get that machine, let me know, I have all the original instructions for converting a 17 to a built in. The conversion kit (Part #ML-18132) contained 1 compression ell (3/8" male pipe thread thd. to 1/2"O.D. tube), 2 front and 2 rear legs, 2 kickboards and 16 screws, all improvisable. The one I bought has all the original literature. I figure this way I can use it as a portable while the other 17 is still working, and have a back-up built in almost-new 17 if it fails. Here are some pics. Ain't she a beauty?

Post# 83327 , Reply# 17   9/14/2005 at 19:31 (6,798 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
Inside!

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I put the new racks from this one into my kitchen built in unit and the older ones in here.

Post# 83330 , Reply# 18   9/14/2005 at 19:39 (6,798 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
Georgious

I have to admit she is gorgious. Michael

Post# 83347 , Reply# 19   9/14/2005 at 21:19 (6,798 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Yum!

veg


Post# 83370 , Reply# 20   9/14/2005 at 22:38 (6,798 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Fred that KDA 17 is a real beauty. Glad that you have a back up machine. The inside just sparkles!! Terry

Post# 83387 , Reply# 21   9/15/2005 at 06:14 (6,797 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
NICE RACKS

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NICE RACKS ..WANT TO TRADE?..HA HA..YOUR MACHINE IS IN FANTASTIC SHAPE TOO..WONDERFUL HOW SOME OF THEM MADE IT THIS FAR..GLAD SOMEONE CAN COME ALONG AND KEEP THEM ALIVE


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