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| Post# 566448 1/2/2012 at 10:18 (4,498 days old) by lesto (Atlanta) | ||
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Everytime I see one of these old ads for a WCI counterfeit Frigidaire I want to hurl! Absolute blasphemy! A White- Westinghouse disguised as a Frigidaire. Oh, the shame of it all! | ||
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Post# 566449 , Reply# 1 1/2/2012 at 10:27 (4,498 days old) by peteski50  (New York) |
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POD! | ||
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Post# 566453 , Reply# 2 1/2/2012 at 10:38 (4,498 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles) |
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Sad . . . One of the ugliest consoles ever with that outrageously fake looking woodgrain, such a sad transition from the elegance of the elegance of the '60s and technically inferior as well. | ||
| Post# 566473 , Reply# 3 1/2/2012 at 12:17 (4,498 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada) | ||
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Post# 566485 , Reply# 4 1/2/2012 at 13:00 (4,498 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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POD FRIGIDARE WASHER AND DRYER | ||
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Post# 566508 , Reply# 6 1/2/2012 at 16:03 (4,498 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Frigiscare! | ||
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Post# 566557 , Reply# 8 1/2/2012 at 19:51 (4,498 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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OK....someone has to stick up for the pitiful thing: Yes, it's true that everything WCI touched turned to cheap crap. But having had a 2005 Frigidaire top-loader, I have to say it was fun watching that indexing tub. Let's see...there has to be something else good I can say about it. Nope, that's it.
Oh well, I tried! | ||
| Post# 566562 , Reply# 9 1/2/2012 at 20:50 (4,497 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
My 2 cents here
Sure the model may be old but its still a part of or history and in that time frame era do not forget that parts where of very good qualty and did not cost a lot to make and where produce in or area compared to today washer parts witch might be made by subcontractent working for the same company but cost more to produce since they might be made in another contry where the parts may cost lest to make compared to if made in the us or canada they might cost more to produce and the sale price would be very high. And also do not forget that at the time the washer and dryer in the pod might of been very good during that time era. and do not forget that there might be some homes today that still have this particular washer model for the main reason that eather its still works or people might of buy for there family needs or starting out in life that can not afford anything new this type of washer in a refurbish store. that was my 2 cents here.
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Post# 566567 , Reply# 10 1/2/2012 at 21:22 (4,497 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York) |
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yeah I have to admit that my 1991 WCI Frigidaire washer and dryer set that we used until 2006 when we got a FL set, is still in regular use by my step-daughter. The only repairs have been a new belt on the washer and a door knob on the dryer. | ||
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Post# 566572 , Reply# 11 1/2/2012 at 21:49 (4,497 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Frigiscare! | ||
| Post# 566598 , Reply# 12 1/3/2012 at 01:48 (4,497 days old) by philr (Quebec Canada) | ||
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Unfortunately Phil NOTHING was the same or interchangeable with the GM built Frigidare laundry appliances. It would be just as likely that parts would fit from a WP or GE washer or dryer LOL.
John, Not even the knobs or the drying rack? (WCI rack shown below) I think at least the bright aluminum strip at the base of the console could be the same (these sometimes deteriorate on older 1-18 washers). If it's not the same, it looks quite close!
Even if these WCI 1-18 washers aren't among the favorites here, I still enjoy seeing them in the POD.
But for my birthday (on 1-18!), I'd like if we could have the real (GM!) thing on the POD! 
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| Post# 566602 , Reply# 13 1/3/2012 at 02:38 (4,497 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Interesting question about the dryer, did WCI, keep the GM version of the dryer for a while after the acquisition? I thought all WCI dryers have that unmistakeable pattern in the back of the drum that my Gas Frigidaire/Elux had? alr
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Post# 566634 , Reply# 14 1/3/2012 at 07:44 (4,497 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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POD FRIGIDARE WASHER AND DRYER The back of the dryer drum looks similar as does the consoles, but NONE of the parts are the same, remember I have had dozens if not hundreds of these apart over the years. The only machine that WCI continued to build in any form from GM Frigidare was the already terrible 24" laundry center and that had a downsized Franklin washer mechanism installed in it. | ||
| Post# 566638 , Reply# 15 1/3/2012 at 08:32 (4,497 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Combo52, TYVM. I figured WCI had made some "adjustments". alr | ||
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Post# 566722 , Reply# 16 1/3/2012 at 17:17 (4,497 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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I don't have anything against any "lame duck's", either...
Part of Appliance History & whether good or bad in retrospect is always 'GOOD!'... Just wonder how long it was, though, that FRIGIDAIRE ever did go back to their "own, original design"... (On the washer lint filter--the dryer door, of course is so "universalized", on the basis that it opens WIDELY, is the right height and that the lint trap is large, durable & conveniently located, that ALL dryers have it; even GE... And in the case of Whirlpool, Kenmore, Kitchen Aid, only retained their drop-down door!)... -- Dave | ||
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Post# 566792 , Reply# 17 1/3/2012 at 20:51 (4,496 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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It is history... | ||
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Post# 566793 , Reply# 18 1/3/2012 at 20:54 (4,496 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Thank You Robert | ||
| Post# 566970 , Reply# 19 1/4/2012 at 17:36 (4,496 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
Knobs and drying rack You'd be surprised. I still have the full control panel from the "faux" 1-18 that I had installed next to a real GM-Frigidaire 1-18 at the 2006 wash-in. WCI went to painstaking lengths to duplicate the look, but nothing was identical--truly! The timer knob screwed on in the opposite direction; the timer now had an 18-minute wash as the starting mark, and of course, the head fit on the cabinet differently. All the controls were Westinghouse in Frigidaire clothing.
The giveaway--lid-opening aside--was that the fake 1-18 was about half a foot shallower than the real deal. To make them look like twins, I had to either line-up the fronts or deal with the kitty-wompus cabinets if I aligned the control panels.
I still think they're handsome machines, and they're fun to play with in their own right. Yes, they were a hurtful rip-off of GM's design, but remember, "We have always been at war with Eastasia"--it's all Geschichte :-)
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Post# 567150 , Reply# 20 1/5/2012 at 16:01 (4,495 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Even Disney made a mistake like this...
All this bad feeling over WCI reminds me of a blunder Disney made at their Epcot Center. One of the original rides there was Journey Into Imagination. It was a very colorful ride that had a theme and characters and inspired people that "imagination is how our minds create creation". For many people, it was their favorite ride but it had mechanical problems and was expensive for Disney and sponsor Kodak to run.
Rather than find some way to make it more reliable Disney chose to change the ride to "Journey Into YOUR Imagination". They took out half the track, removed the characters Figment and Dreamfinder, took away the music, made it dark and scary and the ride told people "you have no imagination". That's right, Disney made an amusement park dark ride that insulted guests, something no other park has ever done. The backlash was so bad that Disney CEO Michael Eisner authorized 5 million to get the original ride back but all of it was destroyed and so now they have "Journey Into Imagination with Figment" which doesn't insult guests but the "smell lab" smells like a skunk. It's no better than a ride at Kennywood. It would cost so much to bring JII back that I believe it will never happen. This was an attraction that people would actually trave to Florida for and now Disney has a reliable "attraction" that no on wants to ride. Kind of like the blunder with GM and WCI. Just as WCI thought that we would forget about GM and up and down agitators Disney thought people would forget about JII and put up with the ride they have now. But Disney never counted on people recording on You Tube so that people know what they are missing. More about this Disney disaster at the link. CLICK HERE TO GO TO neptunebob's LINK This post was last edited 01/05/2012 at 16:34 | ||
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Post# 567400 , Reply# 22 1/6/2012 at 14:50 (4,494 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Try this one. | ||
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Post# 567401 , Reply# 23 1/6/2012 at 14:53 (4,494 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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5 million later...
Meanwhile, here is what the ride is now - and this is after Michael Eisner spent the 5 million. Figment is the only entertaining character.
Tolivac, if you are interested go to videos on YouTube made by Martin Smith, who did a lot of them. By the way, Kodak sponsored the ride. See the thread about Kodak. | ||
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Post# 567525 , Reply# 24 1/7/2012 at 01:41 (4,493 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Sad---like the orig Imagination" attraction better.What a bunch of dopes for destroying the original!5 Mil WASTED!No wonder Kodak is going.... | ||
| Post# 567616 , Reply# 25 1/7/2012 at 12:00 (4,493 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada) | ||
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I've seen the original JII twice when I was a kid and I didn't expect to remember it but now that I've seen it on video, it's exactly what I remembered! I guess these things age and need to be replaced sometimes. The problem is, the new stuff should be more interesting than the one it replaces, but that's not always happening!
I do remember seeing for the first time a 3D movie there and being scared by a witch! I don't remember the name of the movie an I didn't even understand English when I saw it! When I was a bit older, I returned and they had replaced the movie by one starring Michael Jackson. But the thing that I remember the most from Walt Disney World (but I think it was at Magic Kingdom) was GE's Carousel of Progress. That was my favorite attraction. I also remember that my father made a reservation in a restaurant in Epcot Center utilizing a touch screen and that impressed me too! I guess that kids of today wouldn't be impressed at all! | ||
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Post# 567669 , Reply# 26 1/7/2012 at 16:27 (4,493 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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I think the point I am trying to make is that what Disney did is as bad as what happend to Frigidaire - and by making the consoles on the machine look the same it was like Disney was trying to do with that ride - pass off an inferior product as what it used to be and expect consumers to not notice. Hopefully both companies have learned - that doesn't work!
Phil, the first movie you saw there may have been "Magic Journeys". Later it was replaced by Captain EO with Michael Jackson. Guess what is playing there today - Captain EO. Carosel of Progress (not GE) is still there because is was created by Walt himself. | ||
| Post# 567676 , Reply# 27 1/7/2012 at 17:04 (4,493 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada) | ||
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I didn't remember the name of the first movie but now that you say it, I remember Captain EO!
About the GE Carousel of progress, you mean that it still exists but it's not sponsored by GE anymore? I saw this almost 30 years ago... I was 6 then! If I remember well, there were a few GE appliances displayed there, including a 1950's dishwasher similar to the one Paul has in his GE kitchen center. | ||
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Post# 567763 , Reply# 28 1/8/2012 at 03:07 (4,492 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Phil, Carosel of Progress is still in the Magic Kingdom. I have not been there for 20 years but I do plan to go again soon and I will let you know. I believe GE dropped their sponsorship around 2000 and it is now Disney's Carosel of Progress, all GE references have been taken away.
Many attractions that had sponsors at Disney World no longer do because the companies simply could not afford "anything extra". GM no longer sponsors Test Track when they went bankrupt and Kodak pulled out of Imagination last year, now they are going bankrupt. The Imagination pavilion went through several changes over the years, none of them seem to be for the better. The film was at first Magic Journeys, then Captain EO, then Honey I shrunk the Audience and now it is -- Captain EO again. Not to mention what they did to the Imagination ride. Not even in my wildest imagination could I dream up something so pathetic! | ||
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