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Post# 569212   1/15/2012 at 10:44 (4,485 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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Here is a video presentation for the Maytag Bravos XL washer and dryer. While their wash tub size has increased, they still claim a capacity of 18lbs. Didn't we have 18lb machines back in the 1960's?

Malcolm


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Post# 569213 , Reply# 1   1/15/2012 at 10:47 (4,485 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Model X

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Here is the model X machine which is a 12lb washer. At least they are being somewhat honest about how much laundry these machines can handle...

Malcolm


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Post# 569216 , Reply# 2   1/15/2012 at 10:49 (4,485 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Dryer...

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I am surprised that Whirlpool didn't give their flagship Maytag top load washer the TOL dryer to complete the package. Opting to reserve it for the Vantage set instead.

Malcolm


Post# 569243 , Reply# 3   1/15/2012 at 12:39 (4,485 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Malcolm

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A Facebook friend in the US has recently bought the Maytag Bravos XL washer and dryer set. He sent me those video clips and I to was suprised at the capacity. He is very happy with the set and say they wash and dry well although the washer had to be replaced after a few days as it had a fault.

Post# 569246 , Reply# 4   1/15/2012 at 13:34 (4,485 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Yes, people fall for the high cubic feet numbers of these top loaders. But a "smaller" front loader will still wash more than these machines. Of course - since a front loader easily moves the entire load because it doesn't have to rely solely on an impeller on the bottom of the tub. My 3.3 cu. ft. Duet is rated at 24 lbs.

Post# 569271 , Reply# 5   1/15/2012 at 15:09 (4,484 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Core Components of a machine...the wash basket and motor....are they joking....what about the bearings and the computer control boards?......these are the most likely to fail.......

and better yet.....these have a life expectancy of 12 years.....not your Mom and Pops 20 to 30 year Maytags are they?

and 12 to 18 lbs loads....your right Malcolm, why not just stick with a GE V-12...

CEE tier III may mean a higher rebate....but lower water use......a tier I will use more water per load.......that 25.00 rebate ain't mounting to a hill of beans, if enough water is not used to be effective.....


Post# 569459 , Reply# 6   1/16/2012 at 04:45 (4,484 days old) by qualin (Canada)        
To Malcolm

You are partially right. 18 lb machines were pretty much the norm in the late 70's, while 12 lb machines were more the norm in the 1960's when it came to toploaders.

I saw one of these in person and thought it was quite worrying how easily the basket moved around when I put my hand inside. All of these new washplate machines all seem to have very weak suspension, seemingly designed purposely that way.

It's these washplate machines which are going to usher in front loaders.





Post# 570385 , Reply# 7   1/22/2012 at 00:50 (4,478 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))        

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These Maytag Bravos look interesting. So what is the storey with the Power wash, what does that do? Also the cold wash spraying load as the tub turns. My Fisher & Paykel intuitive takes in a small amount of warm or hot water then circulates the warm/ hot soapy water over the load as the tub turns for 5 mins then fills the rest of the way up with cold water then agitates as normal. is this the same as with this washer? Really like the glass lid and see thru door on the dryer.

I wonder about these plates in the bottom of the tub, heard mixed reviews on their efficacy. The F&P Aquasmart has the wash plate in the bottom and I believe not ver good but could be wrong.

Maytag have pulled out of Australia, no longer able to get domestic Maytag washers, which is a shame, always good to have lots of choice when shopping for new appliances.

Simon


Post# 570403 , Reply# 8   1/22/2012 at 02:55 (4,478 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

When I first saw the Calypso machines back in the early 2000's, I was fascinated by the glass lid they came with. I was also fascinated with the style of agitator, it was like some kind of alien washing machine was just delivered into the appliance store.

So, I admit, I like the glass lids. I wouldn't mind seeing a video of one of those 18 lb machines washing away, maybe it's not as bad as I think it might be.

Yeah, 18 lbs really isn't a "Revolution" in laundry. I think it's getting to the point where domestic laundry is starting to see 20 and 25 lb machines starting to become the norm now.


Post# 570423 , Reply# 9   1/22/2012 at 05:48 (4,478 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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"When I first saw the Calypso machines back in the early 2000's, I was fascinated by the glass lid they came with."

AFAIK the glass lids were only on demo models. I remember seeing a machine with a glass lid when I traveled with friends through the USA. He liked the glass lid very much. But when he asked if he could get one, the answer was they were only for demonstration purposes.


Post# 570975 , Reply# 10   1/24/2012 at 15:14 (4,475 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Louis is correct!

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The glass lid on the Calypso was only for the demo units.   I have a 1st Gen (2004) WP Calypso and as much as I'd like it to have a glass lid, it does not. 

 

Full sized glass lids (not just a window in the lid) on production top load washers only started appearing in the last 4? years or so, on the Cabrio, Bravos, etc, machines.    They've become the norm on the TOL models.

 

Kevin

 

 


Post# 571027 , Reply# 11   1/24/2012 at 19:13 (4,475 days old) by MaytagA710 ()        
Nice looking

I think they look kinda nice. I wish the control panels were a bit more squared though. Maytags large capacity pitman/helical drive machines could do 18lbs.

Anyone read the fine print about the dryer saving over $1000?

"Compared to pre-2004 conventional top load pairs, average life, based on a 12 year average life, when paired with the Bravos XL washers."


Post# 571044 , Reply# 12   1/24/2012 at 20:12 (4,475 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Oxy - a - NO NO

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I see that they have eliminated the Oxy dispenser. Guess that trend came and went. LOL!

Malcolm


Post# 571415 , Reply# 13   1/26/2012 at 08:46 (4,474 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        
In my friends house..........

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That I'm staying in here in Texas has a Whirlpool Cabrio. While for everyday laundry it's fine, I'm not impressed at all with how it handles large, bulky items like comfortors, pillows, etc. I can't wait to get my own place and go back to a front loader. This cabrio does have the washplate with window lid. I have watched it go though most cycles and again not all that impressed.

Post# 571719 , Reply# 14   1/27/2012 at 09:03 (4,473 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I'm not an engineer but to me the problem that I have with the Bravos by watching it wash is the fact that it takes so long to roll over (it does roll over) but from what I've seen, it's like watching the hands of a clock move) it eventually happens, but by the time that it does happen, so MUCH wash time has gone by....So the clothes on top FINALLY go down, then back UP, and by the time they get back down again, it seems half the wash cycle time is done, which means they may roll over three or four times in the entire wash. Am I wrong?

Post# 571910 , Reply# 15   1/28/2012 at 01:18 (4,472 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

It is stupid to attempt in a top loader what a front loader does naturally with gravity instead of working against it in the funny HE TLs and they have to be hard on clothing also.

Post# 571914 , Reply# 16   1/28/2012 at 01:59 (4,472 days old) by qualin (Canada)        
To Mark

When I was looking at washers, the salesguy did say that these washplate style machines do turn over clothes fairly slowly in comparison to a centerpost agitator style machine.

Before I came onto these forums, I was actually considering buying something like one of these machines. I'm glad I didn't.


Post# 572473 , Reply# 17   1/30/2012 at 17:07 (4,469 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        
Speed Queen AWN542....................................

is marked "16LB." capacity on the label which lists the model# and serial#. This label is on the underside of the lid with the washer instructions. LOL
Mike
I raised the water level, so I woudl like to think it is a 19lb capacity top loader.



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