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Thread Number: 38825
What Is Over Sixty, Dutch and Smells Good? |
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Post# 575979 2/14/2012 at 20:30 (4,459 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 575983 , Reply# 1 2/14/2012 at 20:33 (4,459 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Rather Charming Parcel USPS Man Delivered The Crate This Mor | ||
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Post# 575985 , Reply# 2 2/14/2012 at 20:35 (4,459 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Stuff Does Smell Lovely | ||
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Post# 575989 , Reply# 4 2/14/2012 at 20:56 (4,459 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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Now Hyacinth | ||
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Post# 575991 , Reply# 5 2/14/2012 at 21:10 (4,459 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Oh And There's French On The Other Side
Fancy Henkel being bi-lingual back in those days.
Long story short have two pamphlets put out in French by Persil which gives directions for using this stuff. Basically one was supposed to "soak, boil, rinse" instead of the usual scrubbing with a brush or washboard. Two packets were slightly opened so after Hoovering the crates and each packetts (you don't know where they have been do you?), put about a teaspoon into a saucepan of cold water and allowed it to boil with a dish rag as a "test" wash. First this vintage Persil is certainly soap,silicate, perborate and whatever else. The water mades a tell tale cloudly/milky appearance which indicates soap. After boiling the rag for ten minutes it was *clean* but aren't holding my breath as to how much power >50 year old perborate still has left. Obviously this Persil wasn't meant for modern automatic washing machines, so it's a no go in the Miele. May experiment though with adding half detergent and a bit of the Persil along with STPP, you never know.. Have to find some use for the stuff or it will join the cases of Lux Flakes, P&G White Laundry Soap, Kirkman's Borax Soap, and Fels Naptha sat sitting stashed all over this household. | ||
| Post# 575992 , Reply# 6 2/14/2012 at 21:41 (4,459 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
Personally... I'd consider....
- measure of 'Napisan' or similar that contains the usual cocktail of enzymes, colour safe bleach etc but is fragrance free.... - half to 2/3 measure of vintage Persil..... - hot wash in your portable or twin-tub - agitate for half the time and then soak for 10 minutes - let cycle complete.....
I bet you'll have sparkling whites and they'll smell FAB...
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Post# 576053 , Reply# 8 2/15/2012 at 08:20 (4,459 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@Ronhic:
Napisan is mainly oxygen bleach,washing soda and other bits IIRC. Am going to hold off on adding more really alkaline substances until can run a pH test on this stuff to see how much of a punch it still packs. Soap is pretty basic on it's own so is the other stuff and don't want to gild the lily too much. *LOL* Do have some vintage La France "bluing" with enzymes so can add that as it also contains water softeners and surfactants as well. @Tomturbomatic: Most all European detergents both liquid and powder contain some amount of soap, at least the TOL brands like Persil, Ariel, etc. Indeed the liquid detergents can contain quite allot of the stuff. On this side of the pond many versions of Tide (again liquid and powder) also contain soap. According to P&G's website that gives the chemcial break down of products certain soils are best dealth with via soap. | ||
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Post# 576106 , Reply# 9 2/15/2012 at 14:07 (4,459 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Post# 576112 , Reply# 10 2/15/2012 at 14:28 (4,459 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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bi-lingual  | ||
| Post# 576116 , Reply# 11 2/15/2012 at 14:39 (4,459 days old) by spookiness (Alexandria VA) | ||
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my first thought was Queen Beatrix | ||
| Post# 576122 , Reply# 12 2/15/2012 at 14:48 (4,459 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 576179 , Reply# 14 2/15/2012 at 17:13 (4,459 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Post# 576203 , Reply# 15 2/15/2012 at 19:15 (4,459 days old) by spiralator60 (Los Angeles) |
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Question for Laundress How much product does each of the Persil boxes contain? Also, what is the size of the typical individual box shown in the photographs? Thanks! | ||
| Post# 576215 , Reply# 16 2/15/2012 at 20:29 (4,458 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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MY first thought was "Two out of three isn't bad at all, Louis!" Nice grab, Laundress. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 576223 , Reply# 17 2/15/2012 at 20:55 (4,458 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@Spirolator
What an odd sort of question luv.
Boxes aren't labled with weight as one supposes laws requiring such weren't in effect at that time. Would require weighing several to determine average gross weight per box. Also considering the time in storage and or conditions of same the contents may have absorbed moisture which would add to the weight and make it totally unrelated to original. | ||
| Post# 576271 , Reply# 18 2/16/2012 at 04:23 (4,458 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia) | ||
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Post# 576319 , Reply# 19 2/16/2012 at 12:25 (4,458 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@Ingemar | ||
| Post# 576336 , Reply# 20 2/16/2012 at 13:21 (4,458 days old) by whirlpolf () | ||
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"What Is Over Sixty, Dutch and Smells Good?" Launderess, this opening is just ... GRAND!!! ;-D Joe | ||
| Post# 576341 , Reply# 21 2/16/2012 at 13:50 (4,458 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 576389 , Reply# 22 2/16/2012 at 17:02 (4,458 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia) | ||
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@ Launderess
Thanks, I would be very grateful.
Honestly a detergent old like this it would be very hard to find for me. In my collection I have a lot of relatively modern detergents from all around the World, but very few realy old ones. As you can see I have an old Persil from 1959, bought on e-bay an old All given to me from a friend of mine in Italy and an old Tide bought in Italy in a shop that sells vintage jukeboxes, refrigerators, fornitures end vintage gadgets. It was a gift from my mother and it costed 250.000 LIRE in 1998. (125 EURO but now this would be equivalent to 250 EURO) Absurdly high price!! The problem is also that some interesting things are sold only localy or in some case the price is really overpriced. CLICK HERE TO GO TO gorenje's LINK | ||
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Post# 576465 , Reply# 23 2/16/2012 at 22:12 (4,457 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 576632 , Reply# 24 2/17/2012 at 16:18 (4,457 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@Frigilux
Have posted snaps here and there as things come in but now most if not all "crates" are squirreled away in storage spots. You *know* I love you more than my luggage but to haul everything out (and by extension put it back again)for a photo op just isn't in the cards ATM. *LOL*
One day will probably gather my entire laundry proudct collection together for an inventory. Will take some snap then and may post, but don't want persons to think one is bragging or anything. L. | ||
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Post# 576728 , Reply# 25 2/18/2012 at 05:14 (4,456 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 576740 , Reply# 26 2/18/2012 at 07:02 (4,456 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia) | ||
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"bragging"
I agree with Frigilux.
I don't think anyone here would see it that way. It is always nice to share the joy with others, particularly with people with same or similar interests. I also always love to see what others have, that's why I'm here. Not to brag with wat I have and also not to envy what others have. Cheers, Ingemar | ||
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Post# 578592 , Reply# 27 2/27/2012 at 04:05 (4,447 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@Ingemar | ||
| Post# 578706 , Reply# 28 2/27/2012 at 13:37 (4,447 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia) | ||
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@ Launderess | ||
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Post# 578748 , Reply# 29 2/27/2012 at 16:49 (4,447 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Just Send A Message Via The Internal System. | ||
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Post# 578840 , Reply# 30 2/27/2012 at 22:05 (4,446 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Ok, Had To Try This Persil
What is the good of having it otherwise? *LOL*
According to packet directions one is supposed to use about 2 tablespoons per litre of water. Or the entire packet for 20 liters. The Miele wash is about 5 gallons which is near 40L if my conversions are correct, but wasn't going to use *that* much soap in a modern front loader. As a compromise used about 50 grammes (about 2oz) along with Tide "Free and Clear" HE liquid, and 3 grammes of vintage Calgon (phoshpates added as insurance against scum in the wash), and away we went. Test wash were two sets of cotton bed linens (full) washed at 140F (fill tap warm and heated to desired temp). Before the wash put the kettle on to boil as per the directions in vintage French Persil leaflet. One places the required amount of Persil into a container, add enough boiling water from the kettle whilst stirring to make a slurry, then pour the slurry into whatever vessel one was using for the washing or soaking (filled before hand with hot water), stir until mixed, then add one's wash. Have not read the directions on the side of the Persil boxes to see if they were updated for anytime of automatic washing machine. As the washer filled went ahead and added the Tide liquid, then began to mix up the Persil. After the machine had filled and began tumbling a bit (to mix) added the boiling "slurry" down the hatch as it were. Herr Miele within a few moments began to protest LOUDLY! Froth, can you say FROTH? One could hear it coming up the dispenser drawer and god only knows where else in the machine. Since my unit has a solid door couldn't see that part of the drama. Quickly added some defoaming agent (always good to keep handy if one is going to play around with vintage detergents in modern front loaders), and for a while that killed the foam But as the temperature of the wash water began to rise from warm to 140F, yet more froth. So every now and then had to add more defoaming agent to keep things under control. Since my washer fills from a tap allowed the water to remain on "hot" so the first two rinses were high temperature as one normally does when using soap for laundry. As the unit drained all that hot steamy milky white wash water can only tell you it smelled DIVINE! This Persil soap has the most wonderful scent. Methinks only those members who grew up in Europe or the UK when boil washing was in and Persil was the product of choice know what one is talking about. Oh well, after the fourth warm rinse set the wash to cold for the final one and added a bit of vinegar. As the final rinse water was draining however it still wasn't clear enough to my tastes so reset the washer to spin and rinse again. This seemed to do the trick. Results? Well when one opened the washer was greeted by the most wonderful smell. As the linens were hung up to damp dry more of the same. Whilst ironing on the mangle noticed how smooth and soft whilst crisp my linens were. They've been airing most of today before being put away and the scent in the laundry area is divine. Verdict? Cleaning and whitening wise the Persil still has it, even for being >60 years old. Would one use it alone for badly stained items? No, but cut with a modern detergent am sure things would be fine. Am going to do routine cleaning of the Miele's pump trap next weekend so will see if there is any undissloved gunk down there. I think this Persil would be great in a twin tub, wringer or even a top loading washer. Long as one has plenty of hot and soft water for washing and rinsing. Oh and a bit of phosphates wouldn't hurt. | ||
| Post# 579497 , Reply# 32 3/1/2012 at 06:40 (4,444 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia) | ||
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@ Launderess | ||
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Post# 580139 , Reply# 33 3/3/2012 at 19:30 (4,442 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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By Popular Demand | ||
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Post# 580140 , Reply# 34 3/3/2012 at 19:31 (4,442 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 580155 , Reply# 35 3/3/2012 at 20:38 (4,441 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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