Thread Number: 39569
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
1967 Kenmore 100 series washer comes home...finally |
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Post# 586196   3/31/2012 at 22:06 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Ever have one of those days when you do something early in the day on an impulse, something which you had no previous intention of doing, and it set the tone for the whole day? Well, today around 11am I had a thought that today would be a great day to take home the 1969 built Kenmore 100 series 24-inch washer that RedCarpetDrew snatched out of the pile for me last year. It is a 100 series - says so right on the lid instructions, which was designed for 1967 but built in the first weeks of 1969. So, within 20 minutes, I had the dolly and tie down strap loaded, and I was on the road.
Andy was enthused when he found this machine, and for very good reason. It is almost mint, and the term pristine comes to mind. Andy has sent me a few choice machines, and I have recently brought two home in the last weeks to play. One (the 1982 24-inch 200 series) we knew was going to present a leak challenge, which it did in a big way. Then the 1986 Lady K has a tired pump which I think dried out in the last year of dis-use and wanted to leak (ok spew) when it was put back into service. So today I thought maybe the little '69 would be the one to let me plug and play. Not that I am afraid of fixing the two other machines, but I think Andy was really hoping for any easy toy. You know what they say, the third time's is the charm, right? This post was last edited 03/31/2012 at 23:29 |
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Post# 586201 , Reply# 1   3/31/2012 at 22:15 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Post# 586204 , Reply# 2   3/31/2012 at 22:17 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Post# 586208 , Reply# 3   3/31/2012 at 22:20 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Post# 586210 , Reply# 4   3/31/2012 at 22:21 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Post# 586212 , Reply# 5   3/31/2012 at 22:23 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Post# 586215 , Reply# 6   3/31/2012 at 22:24 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Post# 586216 , Reply# 7   3/31/2012 at 22:29 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Well, the machine ran two loads tonight, which I was really inspired about after seeing Robert and Fred's episode of My Crazy Obsession, which had been DVR'd.
The load you see above was one of the sudsiest loads I've seen in a while, and my little Kenmore suds-locked subbornly. I haven't had a machine do that in 20 years I'd bet. The combination of a sudsy detergent, that straight vane agitator (it should be called a paddle spanker), and four towels made quite the suds cake. I had to use a large capacity load size amount of Final Touch to kill the suds. For the second load I used a low-sudsing detergent. MUCH better and much more fun results were had where I could actually watch the laundry, not a simulated snowfall... |
Post# 586217 , Reply# 8   3/31/2012 at 22:30 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Post# 586218 , Reply# 9   3/31/2012 at 22:34 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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I did a couple videos, one of which I will ad here after I upload it to YouTube.
The second load is in the dryer right now. I have more work for the newest addition to my home collection for tomorrow. For now I'm going to go put on one of the shirts I washed in the first load, and a pair of comfy cotton shorts and put my feet up for a while. I hope you like my little Kenmore, because I sure do. Yep, the third time was the charm - THANKS Andy! I have always wanted to post a thread with one of your pile rescuees living on to do more work, and here it is, I finally did it. Gordon |
Post# 586221 , Reply# 10   3/31/2012 at 22:40 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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I forgot to mention a couple things. This model was originally built in 1967 with a bakelite six-vane agitator. I have one of the better models (a 200 series) which has this agitator, but it is in nowhere near this condition. I think this is a real eye-opener of a washer, and a conversation piece too.
One thing I didn't know until today, and at first thought something was wrong with the machine --- its a single speed machine. Delicate runs in high-speed. I am not surprised for a 100 series, but since the machine had the delicate cycle, I thought it would have been a two-speed. |
Post# 586237 , Reply# 11   3/31/2012 at 23:52 (4,408 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Here's a link to some video. I have a second video with agitation and drain, but it has three inches of suds in it and you can't see anything else. LOL!
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Kenmoreguy64's LINK |
Post# 586239 , Reply# 12   3/31/2012 at 23:57 (4,408 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Finally! One made it to you in ready to go condition! Out of the three, I kinda had a soft spot for this little one. Again, a combination of features that had you wondering about Nevada being a testbed for new feature combinations before nationwide release... All I had to do to her was replace the water valve with the generic Maytag 205613 valve. That thing fits EVERYTHING! I did leave the original valve in the tub as I figured you'd do something with it. I am so jazzed that third time was the charm and was able to provide you with a working 24" washer.
Question: why do a delicate cycle with a high speed? What would have been the difference between that and the regular cycle, then? Video... Tap... Tap... Tap... LOL! RCD |
Post# 586240 , Reply# 13   3/31/2012 at 23:59 (4,408 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 586253 , Reply# 14   4/1/2012 at 01:57 (4,408 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 586279 , Reply# 16   4/1/2012 at 06:09 (4,408 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 586288 , Reply# 17   4/1/2012 at 06:53 (4,408 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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It is interesting how they sometimes called the short cycle delicate on the inexpensive models with only a one speed motor, later they became a little more honest and labeled the cycle short. You may find this washer has an orange terminal on the timer that has wire on it jumping to the blue Hi speed terminal, if so it is very easy to install a 2SP motor and and run an extra wire from the timer to the motor and have a real delicate low speed agitation. |
Post# 586326 , Reply# 18   4/1/2012 at 09:15 (4,408 days old) by sillysuds (new jersey)   |   | |
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love this washer, wish that i could get one just like it,water fall lint filter and 24'' you are very lucky, good luck. Bob from New Jersey. |
Post# 586472 , Reply# 20   4/1/2012 at 18:50 (4,407 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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The washer is beautiful. At first glance if I didn't know it was the 24" model and it wasn't sitting next to a full sized machine I would think it was a newer cabinet because of how close the lid comes to the edges.
You are right, this machine is mint. It sounds perfect as it purrs along in the video too. Congratulations and enjoy! Patrick |
Post# 586482 , Reply# 21   4/1/2012 at 19:22 (4,407 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Gordon .... What a great washer ...! One of my all time faverites you have the three cycle model that I told you about. Has the same basket and Agi. That is the one we had for 12 yrs and the strongest Kenmore ever. I love this model control panel and size you just want to squeeze the little bugga. Seems your happy with it ... Sounds terrific !
Darren k
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Post# 586598 , Reply# 23   4/2/2012 at 08:25 (4,407 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 586633 , Reply# 24   4/2/2012 at 12:21 (4,407 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 586647 , Reply# 25   4/2/2012 at 12:54 (4,407 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Here's the next step up, the 1967 200 series. As I said, this machine is in nowhere near the condition that the other is. It does have the bakelite 6-vane agitator. I should do a side by side comparison of the two washing, that would be FUN!
By the way, I did five loads of laundry in the little bugger this weekend. I can't say when I last did all my laundry in one washer, but that was part of what I decided would happen, even before I brought the machine home. I've been rotating machines so often lately, that who knows what will be installed there next weekend! |
Post# 586650 , Reply# 26   4/2/2012 at 13:10 (4,407 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Here is the video that I took when I first got this little washer. A wonderfull little machine and quiet, too. this video shows spin and the bearings sound great for her age. I am really happy you like her, Gordon. Sorry, there isn't alot of that classic "woo woo" but still the soothing sounds of a happy belt drive.
That is so cool that you have the 200 series big brother to the little one (although not very surprising... LOL!). Maybe, someday, we can have a video of the two side by side doing wash?
RCD CLICK HERE TO GO TO redcarpetdrew's LINK |
Post# 586658 , Reply# 27   4/2/2012 at 13:43 (4,407 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 586663 , Reply# 28   4/2/2012 at 14:26 (4,406 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 586664 , Reply# 29   4/2/2012 at 14:34 (4,406 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Joe---that's a Whirlpool/Kenmore unique spray, four 7 second bursts for spray rinse, then an agitated deep rinse, then 2 more 7 second sprays during final spin. Whirlpool advertised 7 rinses from the 50's thru 70's and 80's. Zillions of WP/KM belt drive washers had it. For the dirtiest soapiest clothes, not enough rinses, but perfect for 85% of washes. Of course, it rinsed out some of the fabric softener in those last 2 sprays, but not much.
Question on both of the 60's KM shown above--------One speed?, or was speed contolled in the timer cycles? |
Post# 586668 , Reply# 30   4/2/2012 at 14:39 (4,406 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 586685 , Reply# 31   4/2/2012 at 16:43 (4,406 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Akronman -
I always wondered how WP came up with 7 rinses. It must be how the early machines were set up, but all the Kenmores I've ever come across have done four spray rinses in the first spin, a deep rinse, then four more sprays in the final spin. The KM I just brought home (the subject of this thread) is a single-speed machine. I didn't know that until Saturday in fact. The other, slightly fancier machine I am pretty sure is a two speed, but I would hate to say that for sure. I took that machine in on trade in 1991 on a 1977 Kenmore black panel 80 series machine, and have had it all this time. Chris - This machine has only one water level. I can't image really ever needing to lower the level, as it doesn't take much to fill it. I have found though in those five loads I did that I wanted to add water to it several times. Gordon |
Post# 586713 , Reply# 32   4/2/2012 at 18:02 (4,406 days old) by in2itdood ()   |   | |
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Ok Gordon ... I have to say ... that sure is one cute little gal. =) Glad she is home a doing what she does best. |
Post# 587964 , Reply# 33   4/8/2012 at 18:20 (4,400 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Since I got this little beaut. home, I've run seven loads of laundry with it. I have to admit that the non-adjustable water level has taken some getting used to. I'd like the machine to hold about another gallon of water, and I may adjust the pressure switch accordingly as I think it has become a little off it's mark over the years, which seems to be a common problem.
But, that's not a big deal. During the seven loads, I came to notice a couple points that needed attention. First was this aftermarket drain hose that I really didn't like. It was one of those crush proof plastic things that looks like a vacuum hose. NOT FSP specification not for 1969 anyway. That hose was leaking a little at the joint with the drain elbow in the cabinet, which itself was not properly installed. When the washer would drain, especially when just becoming empty, the plastic drain elbow would rattle in the cabinet hole, making a decent amount of racket. There was also a little drippage coming from the pump. It was during drain only, and sporadic, but it seemed that if the machine hadn't been used in a few days, the pump leaked more than it would in consecutive loads. I hated to do it, but I removed the 1969 dated pump and installed a new one, the second of two 350367 pumps I had used in an hour. I also corrected the drain hose configuration, using an FSP rubber drain hose, and a new drain elbow. Oddly and amusingly, the original drain elbow was improperly installed in the wrong hole, and has been that way for 43 years. The pump I used is a new but older stock FSP pump. It dripped a bit during wash drain also (the only other thing leaking could possibly be the pump to cabinet drain hose) but these often will seal right up after some warm water and use. We'll see as it didn't leak more during rinse drain, and I plan to use it some more when I get home tonight. Wish the machine luck for me! Gordon |