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The Computer Controlled Super Unimatic Washes!
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Post# 93794   11/13/2005 at 18:28 (6,745 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Well I’ve Completed Phase I of the Super Unimatic and washed about 10 loads in it this weekend. It worked perfectly except for some software tweaking. Its great fun, made for some very clean clothes. I used two cycles of Heating, one for undershirts/wear, the other for white towels. Both worked great, I measured the incoming water from the tap at 138F, during the Four Minutes of Magic Spray the water temp dropped to 120F and by the end of the 20 Minute wash/soak/heat cycle the temperature was above 130F. I wash a load of dark towels using hot water and no heat and the water temperature dropped down to 101F by the end of the 20 minute wash/soak cycle. So the heater definitely helped to keep the water temperature up.

Here is a link to the software I wrote to run the Super Unimatic. (You will get a security warning when you click on it because windows doesn’t recognize the program, but its safe to run.) It's going to be upgraded over time and I will add and adjust cycles, but it’s a good start. There are a few bugs left in it which I need to fix but you can get a good idea of how it works if you wish. just click on this link and select Run.

Here are pictures from the first wash load.


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Post# 93795 , Reply# 1   11/13/2005 at 18:34 (6,745 days old) by compwhiz128 ()        

Cool machine Robert!

Looks awesome.

You should record a video :D


Post# 93801 , Reply# 2   11/13/2005 at 19:05 (6,745 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Nothing to say but... WOW!!!

Congratulations Robert! Looking forward to any future videos :-).

Lets just hope the computer doesn't get a virus and deliver the same results as Jon's 12 hour jean wash... or even worse, perform an illegal operation and shut down!

All joking aside, fantastic job! Well done!

Jon


Post# 93804 , Reply# 3   11/13/2005 at 19:17 (6,745 days old) by westytoploader ()        

WOOHOO!!! Looks like a FUN machine...the "traditional" Unimatic with the 29-minute cycle gets my clothes sparkling clean so I can imagine what this one can do! :)

You really have talent as far as getting a machine to wash how you want it, especially creating a program with infinitely variable wash, rinse, spin, and other cycle times! To say that I am impressed is an understatement! Can't wait to see the action videos of this machine...and maybe in person in the future!

I tried running the wash program, but it displayed a run time error; apparently a DLL file is missing?

--Austin


Post# 93805 , Reply# 4   11/13/2005 at 19:20 (6,745 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
Fabulous Robert!!

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In the vacuum club, that machine would win in the "Monster" competition. A monster vac is a modified suped-up machine. Yours would definitely qualify. Great work.

Post# 93808 , Reply# 5   11/13/2005 at 19:26 (6,745 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
A Real Washing Machine!

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Whooa Robert,
Way to go - I have to say this is the way all washers should work with plenty of sprays / deep action washing / and plenty of overflowing. This is some awsome machine. Best Of Luck!
Peter



Post# 93810 , Reply# 6   11/13/2005 at 19:27 (6,745 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
A Real Washing Machine!

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And to add they should all have plenty of windows
YAH
Peter


Post# 93811 , Reply# 7   11/13/2005 at 19:27 (6,745 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Robert,
This is no less than amazing!
I had so much fun seeing this in pictures, I felt like I was there!
This is so cool!
I bet your clothes come out so clean with the beginning of they cycle, and the spinning while spraying the clothes.
How many different cycles will you come up with?
Thanks for sharing this!
This is amazing! Oh, I said that already.
Brent


Post# 93814 , Reply# 8   11/13/2005 at 19:41 (6,745 days old) by shanonabc ()        

WOW!

I am impressed


Post# 93815 , Reply# 9   11/13/2005 at 19:42 (6,745 days old) by nurdlinger (Tucson AZ)        
Run-time error 53:

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File not found: inpout32.dll

I can't run "SuperUnimatic".


Post# 93817 , Reply# 10   11/13/2005 at 20:08 (6,744 days old) by rickr (.)        
SUPER DUPER!!

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If it isn't clean after all that.... It will never be clean!

Congratulations on your *Wash Monster* Dr. Robert!


Post# 93818 , Reply# 11   11/13/2005 at 20:10 (6,744 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

WOW, this is SOOOOOOO off the hook!!!!!! Would love to see what you do for the "Super Norge"!

Post# 93819 , Reply# 12   11/13/2005 at 20:14 (6,744 days old) by agiflow ()        

Robert you are amazing!! What a cool washer. Hope all goes well

Post# 93820 , Reply# 13   11/13/2005 at 20:23 (6,744 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Thanks everyone. Ooooh sorry I forgot about needing the DLL for the circuit board to run the software. Here is a link to get a copy of the DLL. For those interested download and save this file to your hard drive and copy it into your WINDOWS/SYSTEM directory.

inpout32.dll


Post# 93823 , Reply# 14   11/13/2005 at 20:39 (6,744 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
inpout32.dll

Don't pout about inpout
Here it is without a doubt
Open the zip file and pull it out
Put it in windows/system32 and check it out


CLICK HERE TO GO TO jasonl's LINK


Post# 93824 , Reply# 15   11/13/2005 at 20:40 (6,744 days old) by nurdlinger (Tucson AZ)        
Thank you, Robert

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Works great now with DLL.

Is the field named "contacts" the decimal representation of the eight bit relay setting?


Post# 93825 , Reply# 16   11/13/2005 at 20:45 (6,744 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
oops

Robert beat me to it

DVD NOW! Please????? With whipped cream and a cherry on top?


Post# 93826 , Reply# 17   11/13/2005 at 20:46 (6,744 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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OH ROBERT:

Why don't you take this to the Patent shop. I belive you'd have a seller, REAL FAST!!!!

Good work man!

Steve


Post# 93830 , Reply# 18   11/13/2005 at 21:01 (6,744 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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"Is the field named "contacts" the decimal representation of the eight bit relay setting?"

Yes nurdlinger that is correct. Here is how it works:

1 = Relay #1 Motor
2 = Relay #2 Spin Solenoid
4 = Relay #3 Heater
8 = Relay #4 Drain Pump
16 = Relay #5 Recirculation Pump
32 = Relay #6 Hot fill inside cabinet
64 = Relay #7 Cold Fill inside cabinet
128 = Relay #8 Cold Jet-Circle Spray Fill.

So in writing the program if I want to the washer to spin I send the number 3 to the relay board. 1 + 2 = 3. 1 for the motor, 2 for the spin solenoid. If I want to spray rinse I send the number 131, 1+2+128. 1 for the motor, 2 for the solenoid, 128 to Jet Circle Cold Spray.

Next week I will start to work on Phase 2. This is going to be sending information from the washer back to the computer. Right now I'm using timed fills, but I want to hook up pressure switches and monitor the amount of water filling into the washer. I also want to add an unbalance sensor to communicate with the computer in case the wash load gets out of balance. From what I have researched there are 8 pins on in the parallel port cord that are for inbound messages, just like the 8 outbound pins I‘m using now. In order to communicate back to the computer I have to send 4 to 5 volts DC from the washer across one or more of the inbound pins. When that DC voltage is recognized at the computer port, the inbound values change and the program can always be on the look out for changing values. It will be interesting to experiment with this. I have a spare small, milliamp 6.3 volt transformer and I will use a resistor to bring the voltage down between 4 and 5 volts and see how the inbound values change.


Post# 93842 , Reply# 19   11/13/2005 at 22:39 (6,744 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Robert, fascinating and hart stopping photos. I agree with Steven, you could sell an awesome machine.

Now, reading your text about relay number combinations, I call this the 21st century version of Lisa douglas' electric combination in her kitchen.


Post# 93845 , Reply# 20   11/13/2005 at 22:45 (6,744 days old) by scott55405 ()        

This is very fun Robert!

Post# 93848 , Reply# 21   11/13/2005 at 23:27 (6,744 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
IT'S AL-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-VE!!!!!!!!

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What did you come up with for a spray/recirculation nozzle? That powerful looking spray looks like it would just SCARE that dirt out of the clothes! This is just too cool for words!

Post# 93856 , Reply# 22   11/14/2005 at 03:08 (6,744 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Drama!!!

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Robert, what a fun machine! Royal drama here!!!

Post# 93872 , Reply# 23   11/14/2005 at 07:56 (6,744 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        
What can I say but

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Well, Dr. FrankenUni, I am absolutely speechless! This is probably the most interesting thing I've ever seen in my entire life. You've done what many of us always wished we could do with a washer: program everything exactly the way we want it.

Post# 93880 , Reply# 24   11/14/2005 at 08:51 (6,744 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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What did you come up with for a spray/recirculation nozzle?

After trying about 10 different types of nozzles, I decided to try the WO-65 water flume, it was so simple and right there all the time. I just re-installed the flume to face towards the right side of the wash tub and it works perfectly. The entire side wall of the spinning tub gets dowsed with the high concentration of detergent/water spray from right under the rim down to the very bottom of the tub. It's makes really cool sounds when it first starts as it takes about 2 or 3 seconds for the water to saturate the clothes and for it to start spinning back over the top of the tub.


Post# 93894 , Reply# 25   11/14/2005 at 12:15 (6,744 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        
A question, Uni....

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Not to be a complete moron, but don't the electronics/wiring inside the cabinet get wet from all that water flying around? Is the wiring protected somehow?

Post# 93900 , Reply# 26   11/14/2005 at 12:41 (6,744 days old) by gregm ()        
speechless

that is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing ..................

Post# 93971 , Reply# 27   11/14/2005 at 19:35 (6,744 days old) by mathewhebailey0 (port arthur tx)        

I wonder how do I use this program? I want to interface my XP desktop to the car operating handle contacts of an old Otis elevator. (i'm looking at the elevator's electrical schematic which shows how the car's control switch is wired)
The interface needs to use six relays,three for up & the other three for down. The schematic is for an Otis No. 2A or 3A SOS
Magnet Controller w/ worm gear traction machine 3 phase,3 wire,car switch operation w/ potential switch & operating transformer variable. Relays 1-3 for down direction would have
their contacts connetcted to contacts 1D,A7,4D & 3D.
Relays 4-6 for up would have their contacts connected to
contacts 3U,4U,B7 & 1U. There are three operating speeds in either direction. & the building the elevator is in is 10 stories.


Post# 93992 , Reply# 28   11/14/2005 at 20:32 (6,743 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Robert

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I'm in love!



Post# 94001 , Reply# 29   11/14/2005 at 20:45 (6,743 days old) by bostonwash ()        

(gasp!)

Post# 94034 , Reply# 30   11/14/2005 at 23:13 (6,743 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Mathewhebailey0 I don't quite understand what you are trying to do with your Otis elevator, but since a few people have asked to see the VisualBasic6 code that I wrote for the Super Unimatic software, I posted it at this link. All the fun stuff, controlling the actual cycles, is at the very bottom. You might be able to adapt it for your Elevator project.

but don't the electronics/wiring inside the cabinet get wet from all that water flying around? Is the wiring protected somehow?

Eugene, early Frigidaire washer cabinets (as well as ABC, Apex, Kelvinator, Thor) had no outer tub. The cabinet served as the outer tub as there was a sealed shelf about 2/3 way down the cabinet to hold the water. All the electrical components are under this shelf or behind the machine. You can see this in this picture...


Post# 94039 , Reply# 31   11/15/2005 at 00:19 (6,743 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Speechless

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*round of applause for Robert*

Post# 94048 , Reply# 32   11/15/2005 at 06:34 (6,743 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
All I dreamt about last nite was

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Electronic Controls on washing machines!



Post# 94049 , Reply# 33   11/15/2005 at 06:36 (6,743 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I can't get side tracked

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I have to finish JonDash! But all I am thinking about is this fabulous project.


Post# 94095 , Reply# 34   11/15/2005 at 15:19 (6,743 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What machine will you do that with next?

Post# 94119 , Reply# 35   11/15/2005 at 18:39 (6,743 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        
Well Mr. Seger!

What a project! Since your doing all this geeky stuff (you called it that I didn't) and your very good at it. I think you should come up with a remote control washer. If someone hasn't already said that. Or make the control panel built into the wall or something. Just think how many wealthy people would love to have the computerized wall panel just so their ahead of the Jones. Have bins that they fill with soap,bleach and softener once a month and everything is controled from the panel. I guess thats what the staff is for but, they still would buy it.
I have a friend that can control his house from anywhere in the world. Lights,TV whatever is electronical. He'd probably buy one! LOL


Post# 94120 , Reply# 36   11/15/2005 at 18:44 (6,743 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        

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Robert, You are a very talented individual.
This was amazing. Thanks for all the details
and photos. Keep on keeping us all inspired
and entertained. -Patrick


Post# 94122 , Reply# 37   11/15/2005 at 19:17 (6,743 days old) by jerseymike ()        
I'm speechless!!!

Amazing, truly amazing.

You sure are talented, Robert.

Mike


Post# 94130 , Reply# 38   11/15/2005 at 19:52 (6,743 days old) by kennywhy (Tucson, Arizona)        
The King of Applianceville

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Talented? The guy's a genius. You're incredible Robert.
Thanks for all you've done with this web site as well.
Also, Robert, thank you for your review of the CD recording of my Unimatic problem. I'll check out the fan, and retighten it when I get a chance within a few weeks. Hopefully that was all that was wrong.
Ken



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