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Opinions on the early Maytag Neptunes |
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Post# 595288 , Reply# 1   5/9/2012 at 13:16 (4,369 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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I did an overhaul on a 24 series MAH3000 about 3 years ago. Since then it has been my daily driver without fault. Certainly a fantastic machine once all the 'upgrades' were completed.
Thankfully the PHA upgrade had been completed prior to finding it behind Menards, and also that it was a later version with the log water valve instead of the wax motor controled water dirverter system. The original bearings sounded great when I got it, and after 3 years of regular use, they still sound fine. Now, at the ripe old age of 14, the one thing it may need is a new pair of shocks. Ben CLICK HERE TO GO TO swestoyz's LINK This post was last edited 05/09/2012 at 13:34 |
Post# 595290 , Reply# 2   5/9/2012 at 13:30 (4,369 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 595291 , Reply# 3   5/9/2012 at 13:31 (4,369 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 595292 , Reply# 4   5/9/2012 at 13:32 (4,369 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 595295 , Reply# 5   5/9/2012 at 13:47 (4,369 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 595300 , Reply# 6   5/9/2012 at 14:46 (4,369 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 595302 , Reply# 7   5/9/2012 at 14:50 (4,369 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Per the Wikipedia article.
They act more like a linear actuator than an actual rotating motor. Ben CLICK HERE TO GO TO swestoyz's LINK |
Post# 595307 , Reply# 8   5/9/2012 at 15:07 (4,369 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 595319 , Reply# 9   5/9/2012 at 16:12 (4,369 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()   |   | |
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Not a bad price, if all that is wrong with it is the belt. CLICK HERE TO GO TO AutoWasherFreak's LINK on Quadcities Craigslist |
Post# 595321 , Reply# 10   5/9/2012 at 16:13 (4,369 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()   |   | |
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Even cheaper yet, but how much is a new control board? CLICK HERE TO GO TO AutoWasherFreak's LINK on Iowacity Craigslist |
Post# 595322 , Reply# 11   5/9/2012 at 16:17 (4,369 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()   |   | |
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And another CLICK HERE TO GO TO AutoWasherFreak's LINK on Quadcities Craigslist |
Post# 595333 , Reply# 13   5/9/2012 at 17:05 (4,369 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()   |   | |
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I would like to get a Neptune with this control panel instead of the electronic panel. |
Post# 595334 , Reply# 14   5/9/2012 at 17:10 (4,369 days old) by k1rod (Scottsdale, AZ)   |   | |
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That is an MAH3000AWW. I've seen them on CL fo $30 and all they needed was the repair I mentioned above. |
Post# 595391 , Reply# 17   5/9/2012 at 21:22 (4,369 days old) by fordtech ()   |   | |
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Neptunes |
Post# 595430 , Reply# 18   5/10/2012 at 00:39 (4,369 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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I was set to buy one in 1998 until I found out it had no window. So I got a Frigiwhite FL which has needed no repairs and I still have it.
Seems I dodged a bullet. Until they were re-engineered the original Neptune was a DOG. Yeah warranty fixes it but somebody has to stay home from work to let the repairman in. Sure there were reasons for the blown boards and waxmotors, failed bearings, two versions of bad motors, and the gym-sock smells. But nobody can tell me those exact problems didn't show up in prototype testing, assuming they even did that. So they either didn't test it or they did and shipped it as it was anyway. A lifetime of credibility, blown on one model. Helluva way to run a business. If they'd fixed it before they sold it AND put a window in it, I'd love to have one. The slant tub has ergonomic and performance advantages over the Frigiwhite I ended up with. |
Post# 595491 , Reply# 19   5/10/2012 at 11:06 (4,368 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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I hated these machines from the fist day they arrived at our store.I was lied to and told how Maytag had these in trial homes fifteen years before they were put on the market. Seeing the similarities in their nightmare combos from 1960 made me avoid selling them. About 85% of the sets I sold were either returned or constantly in for repair.I sold 200 stacked sets that were installed on the Disney ship, Magic. I had clearly explained to its captain that they should neither be installed on its lower deck nor be vented out up through the smoke stacks. He did it anyway and the ship had a severe fire a few years later ruining all the machines. The cause was lint build up from venting through the stacks.
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Post# 595579 , Reply# 20   5/10/2012 at 19:20 (4,368 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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I had a matched MAH4000 set for a very long time with little issues until I had a chance to jump at a MAH7500 washer. I had been wanting 7500s for a long time and had been stockpiling a 'wish stash' of parts in anticipation. Did a complete ground up rework. New bearings, boot, changed the motor and control to the new style and new struts. I also changed cabinets with a donor 4000 with a shot tub since the 7500 had a whollop in it from when the owner backed his car into it. I changed out the problematic Dayco belt with the new Hutchinson sourced belt. I love it.
My old 4000 washer went to a friend who is still using it with no issues. I still say that a fair amount of the issues with Neptune can be attributed to owners who can not/will not use the thing right. Wrong soap, no bleach, cold water ONLY, not wiping out the boot when done for a while, etc... Sure, there were design issues to be fixed such as the wax motor, but still the owners had a fair share...
Here's mine. I still have the 4000 dryer while I wait to jump on a 7500 electric dryer. As soon as one shows up, I'll overhaul it as well and switch the windowed door over.
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Post# 595587 , Reply# 21   5/10/2012 at 19:59 (4,368 days old) by k1rod (Scottsdale, AZ)   |   | |
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Hey Andrew, I'm kind of surprised. I assumed (you know what that gets you) that by the time the 7500's came out that Maytag was installing the new 3 phase motors as OEM. BTW Martin, your collection of 5500's is awesome! |
Post# 595607 , Reply# 22   5/10/2012 at 21:07 (4,368 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 595631 , Reply# 23   5/10/2012 at 23:47 (4,368 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()   |   | |
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I wish the Neptunes had see through doors, LOL. |
Post# 595655 , Reply# 24   5/11/2012 at 01:54 (4,368 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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If they had, I would have bought one. Then I would have had to stay home from work a dozen times to let the repairman in.
I can't name another FL with no window. Even some DRYERS now have windows. What was Maytag thinking? "We can sell junk for $999 on the basis of our name alone, without bothering to test it"? Sure looks that way. |
Post# 595737 , Reply# 25   5/11/2012 at 11:38 (4,367 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)   |   | |
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Ah, the Neptune. "The machine that killed Maytag.", as I would like to title my book about it (if I ever write one.)
We were so excited to leave our GE Profile TL W/D when we moved in 2001 and bought a brand new Neptune set for the new house (the teeny pushbutton version.) We loved the concept of a FL washer way back then, liked that it still fit in a TL-designed laundry room, admired the retro-future styling and logo, and believed that since it was a Maytag, what could possibly go wrong?? It was a great cleaning washer and sort of exciting to use, being new to FLs. But then... First came the mold...lots of it. I'd chalk the first replacement boot up to user error, but the second and third were just bad design until they finally got to the one with the drain in it and it stopped turning black. Then came the wax motor failures, at least two. Then a control board or two (lost track.) Then the bearings started to sound more like a 707 @ takeoff. Finally in year 4, now past warranty and the very week we started potty training our oldest son (use your imagination there...) the washer completely failed AND the dryer died, within hours of each other. Seriously...what can go wrong with an electric dryer to make it completely die?!? At that point I'd absolutely had it and vowed - as I suspect others may have too - to never own anything with Maytag on it ever again. That set was hauled away and a new Bosch Nexxt set installed, which we are still using to this day. Adding to my irritation and anti-brand vow was the fact that Maytag never informed me of the lawsuit and subsequent settlement, in spite of having had a valid warranty registration and numerous contacts with them. I found out about it a few months after the closure. I agree with the assessment above that the design of the washer, from a conceptual point of view, was interesting and innovative. But the implementation details showed a lack of real-world component testing and resulted in a problematic end product. By the time they fixed these individual problem spots, the damage to the brand was done and perhaps irreparable. It was during this time that they were acquired by Whirlpool, right? If only they'd done more testing and sorted it out before a broader launch, it could have changed the landscape for W/Ds in America and FL acceptance sooner....alas. |