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End of phosphated Blanca Nieves |
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Post# 608713   7/6/2012 at 16:58 (4,311 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Shoot! Looks like Super K-Mart has converted all their mexican detergents to non-phosphate. First, it was Save-A-Lot which had Foca...then, it was discontinued in favor of the no-phosphate. Then, Super K-Mart still had the phosphated Foca, along with phosphated Blanca Nieves and no-phosphate Ariel...then slowly the phosphated Foca sold out. Today, I got the last 3 bags of phosphated BN...that doctored with a bit of enzyme is a very good detergent...the remainder of the bags were no-phosphate. Fraid I don't see much point in the Mexican off-brand detergents without phosphates...can't believe they'd do better than comparable US detergents (comparable--same presence/absence of enzymes). Last time I went to Mexicantown they still had phosphated offerings...I should be in good shape for a while, though
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Post# 608715 , Reply# 1   7/6/2012 at 17:13 (4,311 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Whose products contain phosphates have been in the cross hairs of tree huggers for along time now. It was one of the reasons P&G brought out a non-STPP version of Ariel.
The Hispanic market is vast and growing but it is one that prefers products that they know from their home countries, hence all the Foca, Ariel, Blanca Nieves, and other Spanish laundry soaps and detergents showing up all over the United States. For their part P&G and other producers claimed they didn't directly sell such products to US stores via their distribution systems so shouldn't be held accountable. That didn't sit well with the tree huggers who have kept at stores and anyone else they could drag into the media and or court over selling phosphated detergent where it's illegal. Now that so many states have moved to a total phosphate ban in both laundry and automatic dishwashing products it probably doesn't make sense to keep fighting. If the United States cannot keep illegal drugs from it's borders that doesn't say much about stopping the flow of llict products. |
Post# 608761 , Reply# 2   7/6/2012 at 22:15 (4,311 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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I've been noticing the same! Got the last couple of small bags of Foca (phosphated) from a small nearby Mexican Market.
I'm curious.. what enzymes were you doctoring with? The Mexican detergent Viva, has enzymes in it, you might still be able to find the phosphated version of it. It' a lot like Foca (mild scent) |
Post# 608819 , Reply# 3   7/7/2012 at 06:19 (4,311 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 921263 , Reply# 5   2/14/2017 at 08:37 (2,627 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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banned here in like 1970. No one recalls all the foamy streams and algea over procutcion? |
Post# 921264 , Reply# 6   2/14/2017 at 08:39 (2,627 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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I like phosphates. |
Post# 921771 , Reply# 9   2/16/2017 at 11:41 (2,625 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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But many other stores that had good to large sized local Hispanic customer base began selling various Mexican detergents loaded with phosphates. Our K-mart here in NYC had them, but so did bodegas and other supermarket/shops as well.
Fuss started when tree-huggers spotted these phosphate laden products in places where bans on such things long existed. Oregon and other such places comes to mind. They promptly not only complained to store owners (which got them usually no where), but got local elected officials and or federal government involved. In the end pressure was put on P&G (Ariel from Mexico was one of the STPP laden detergents IIRC), and other makers of these phosphate laden detergents to clean up their act and cease cross border sales. Companies responded that they themselves were *NOT* directly selling such products to USA market, but it was the work of third party resellers/exporters. In the end you know what happened; to settle the entire mess P&G and other makers simply removed phosphates. This was the "win-win" solution. Mexican consumers could still find their "taste of home" laundry products, and places with phosphate bans were no longer bothered. P&G has since gone onto remove phosphates from all detergents worldwide, so that is the end of that. |