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Post# 613767 7/31/2012 at 14:45 (4,286 days old) by syndets2000  (Nanjemoy, MD) |
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...washer- I watched this movie over the weekend & caught glimpse of what looked like a very old Maytag toploader- am I correct? I was also wondering if Blanch lived or died- maybe the police got her to the hospitol in time! | ||
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Post# 613786 , Reply# 1 7/31/2012 at 15:42 (4,286 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC) |
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In Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, that's a Maytag AMP clothes washer. We had one in the early 1950's that worked for 16 years. Good machines. Jerry Gay | ||
| Post# 613789 , Reply# 2 7/31/2012 at 15:53 (4,286 days old) by christfr (st louis mo) | ||
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| Post# 613807 , Reply# 3 7/31/2012 at 17:53 (4,286 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 613819 , Reply# 4 7/31/2012 at 18:59 (4,286 days old) by cehalstead (Charleston, WV) | ||
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we don't know if Blanche lived or died. The writers left it hanging....form your own conclusion. I've done a lot of internet research on her survival, and all that I find is that we were not told. | ||
| Post# 613882 , Reply# 5 7/31/2012 at 23:37 (4,286 days old) by stan (Napa CA) | ||
Have not seen the movie in a long time 
but remember assuming that she died there on the beach!
From what I've heard (from both actresses interviewed, years ago) they both insisted that the film be shot in black & White, because the story was about "tragedy" If it was... then Blanche died on the beach. If it's on again, I'll try to see the washing machine! Do remember the car of course! Too bad they did'nt show under the hood of that "Baby" | ||
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Post# 613903 , Reply# 6 8/1/2012 at 01:08 (4,285 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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One Always Assumed Blanche Died
As a way to "pay" for her sins of not only trying to kill Jane all those years ago by trying to run her over with the car, but also for the mental torment she allowed Jane to live with all those years. True towards the end Jane starts to get her own back, but that was booze and mental illness setting in for good.
Still you have to hand it to Bette Davis. Few if anyone has matched her pure evil as "Jane Hudson" "You're not going to sell this house Blanche, and you ain't gonna leave it either, *EVER*!" | ||
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Post# 613942 , Reply# 7 8/1/2012 at 09:07 (4,285 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I saw most of the movie long ago; can't watch much of it again--too violent on too many levels. I did notice in turning through the channels the scene where Davis is dismissing the maid in the driveway. I thought I saw a dryer vent on the wall. I did not watch past that point. | ||
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Post# 615689 , Reply# 8 8/8/2012 at 17:49 (4,278 days old) by electronicontrl (Grand Rapids, MI) |
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Yep, that's an AMP | ||
| Post# 615692 , Reply# 9 8/8/2012 at 18:05 (4,278 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
There's A Funny Story.....
....About the shooting of that final scene.
Joan Crawford had always been a glamour star, and even in "Baby Jane," she was concerned with looking as good as she could, even though her character had seen better days. Bette Davis, of course, had no such concerns. On the day of shooting, Crawford showed up wearing her largest falsies; she maintained a collection in different sizes for different dresses and purposes. Davis rolled her eyes, and got on with shooting the scene, but after a while, she took advantage of a break to complain to director Robert Aldrich: "I don't CARE! Blanche is supposed to be SICK, AND she's lying DOWN! Her bosoms shouldn't be sticking up like twin MATTERHORNS! I keep running INTO them like the Hollywood HILLS!" As a look at the photo will reveal, Joan got her way. Until, of course, the next Davis/Crawford picture, "Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte." You say, "Joan Crawford wasn't in that one?" Well, she was when they started filming, but she wasn't by the time they finished. Bette saw to that. 
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Post# 615703 , Reply# 10 8/8/2012 at 19:45 (4,278 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Joan Crawford & "Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte".
Following the unexpected box-office success of What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? (1962), director Robert Aldrich wanted to reunite stars Joan Crawford and Bette Davis. After Crawford worked only four days, she quit the film, claiming she was ill.[3]
Alain Silver and James Ursini wrote in their book Whatever Happened to Robert Aldrich?, "Reputedly, Crawford was still incensed by Davis' attitude on Baby Jane and did not want to be upstaged again, as Davis' nomination for Best Actress convinced her she had been. Because Crawford had told others that she was feigning illness to get out of the movie entirely, Aldrich was in an even worse position..." Desperate to resolve the situation, "Aldrich hired a private detective to record her [Crawford's] movements." When shooting was suspended indefinitely, the production insurance company insisted that either Crawford be replaced or the production cancelled.[3] Davis suggested her friend Olivia de Havilland to Aldrich as a replacement for Crawford after Katharine Hepburn, Vivien Leigh, Loretta Young and Barbara Stanwyck turned the role down. Leigh famously said "I can just about stand to look at Joan Crawford at six in the morning on a southern plantation, but I couldn't possibly look at Bette Davis." Although the Davis-Crawford partnership failed to be repeated, Victor Buono from What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? was reunited with Davis for Hush. The cast also included Mary Astor, a friend and former co-worker of Davis' during her time at Warner Bros.[3] Scenes outside the Hollis mansion were shot on location at The Houmas in Louisiana.[4][5] The inside scenes were shot on a soundstage in Hollywood. From Wikipedia.org CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
| Post# 615747 , Reply# 11 8/9/2012 at 01:54 (4,277 days old) by stan (Napa CA) | ||
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Something
to consider... before too much Crawford bashing starts, is that it was Joan Crawford who found the novel written by Henry Farrell. It was Joan that that sent the novel to Aldrich, with the idea of her and Bette playing the parts, and Joan that had the guts to approach Bette with the the part!
As Davis says in her book "This and That" she "will always thank Joan for giving her the opportunity to play Baby Jane Hudsson" also, Davis says in her book that "Joan was a pro, always punctual, always knew her lines" Davis did not win the oscar that year because of Anne Bancroft's performance the same year. Bette was very disappointed because she dreamed of being the first to win three Oscars. (ego) They both did very well financially. since we are talking about it... they both remain a "team" in the publics mind. | ||
| Post# 615773 , Reply# 13 8/9/2012 at 08:13 (4,277 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
It's funny that this movie was just brought up. I just watched it last friday along with "Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte". It's truly amazing how both were so simalar yet different as well.Both had housekeepers who were murdered, both were rich individuals and both starred Betty Davis.I read her book during my major brain surgery ( "This and That" ) a biography Betty wrote that had the nasty letter from her daughter included at the end.
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| Post# 615853 , Reply# 14 8/9/2012 at 14:50 (4,277 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
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| Post# 615857 , Reply# 15 8/9/2012 at 15:20 (4,277 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
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had to just sneak another comment in...
"Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte" was for me, slightly better than "Baby Jane" and remains one of my all-time favorite films. The scene at the dining room table where cousin Miriam gently explains to Charlotte that "there isn't anything I can do to save the house" whereby Davis twists her face into a one-person angry mob and tells her relative "WHAT do you think I invited you here for...comp-nee!!!" is just great. The line where she refers to Miriam's job in public relations as "somthin kinda dirty" is priceless too.
If you like this film and have the opportunity to see it, this campy play is great fun too. It was at the Annenberg Theatre here in Palm Springs a few years ago. I think there's a clip or two on YouTube. 
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| Post# 615858 , Reply# 16 8/9/2012 at 15:39 (4,277 days old) by franksdad (Greenville, South Carolina) | ||
"Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte" | ||
| Post# 615888 , Reply# 17 8/9/2012 at 18:31 (4,277 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
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"Charlotte" | ||
| Post# 615895 , Reply# 18 8/9/2012 at 19:21 (4,277 days old) by dynaflow (rockingham nc) | ||
not a Electra | ||
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Post# 615901 , Reply# 19 8/9/2012 at 19:38 (4,277 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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The Real Beauty Of Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte
Lies in it being a great mystery story.
Through most of the book and film one really thinks Charlotte Hollis *did* murder her married lover and therefore deserves somehow the treatment being metted out by her cousin, Miriam. Of course in the end the truth will out that Miriam is the actual villan along with June Mayhew. One actually committed the murder whilst the other knew of it and was blackmailing her and deviling Charlotte to get at her money. In the end greed and evil claimed both of them and while Charlotte may have lost her family estate and will likely live out her days in an insane aslyum, the sort of smile she gives at the end shows she "won" after all. When handed the letter from the now dead Mrs. Mayhew and hearing "I think you've been waiting for this a long time", vindicates all along what Charlotte Hollis had told her father and anyone else who would listen; she didn't kill anybody. The group of nasty old gossips/bidy women gathered around at the end to chatter about Charlotte's plight and the goings on would finally have their mouths shut when the rest of the story came to light via Mrs. Mayhew's letter. By the old Hollywood code both "evil" women in the end were punished. June Mayhew committed suicide rather than live on as known murderess as opposed to the wronged widow. Miriam got greedy and that never bodes well for anyone. She played a very dangerous game in trying to drive her cousin "mad" and in the end whether she did or not the results would have worked enough to get her off a murder charge. I would have heaved that planter over the railing as well. For a really good Bette Davis murder mystery you cannot beat the often forgotten "Dead Ringer" released in 1964. Miss Davis plays a dual role of twins where one kills the other to assume her sister's life in order to take revenge and get what is "her's" only to find out things weren't what they appeared to be and lands in some very hot water. | ||
| Post# 615902 , Reply# 20 8/9/2012 at 19:43 (4,277 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
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Ron:
There are two 1964 Electra 225s in the film.
The first one is the one you mention as having been rented for Miriam to drive; this one is light in color (remember, this is a B&W movie). The second one is a darker one, seen at the end of the film, and Bette Davis is driven away in huge style in it. There IS a small Buick in the last scene, but it's a light-colored '64 Special shown earlier as being driven by the crime magazine reporter. | ||
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Post# 615910 , Reply# 21 8/9/2012 at 19:59 (4,277 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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This Is The Way To Go | ||
| Post# 615927 , Reply# 22 8/9/2012 at 21:30 (4,277 days old) by dynaflow (rockingham nc) | ||
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Sandy | ||
| Post# 615930 , Reply# 23 8/9/2012 at 21:55 (4,277 days old) by stan (Napa CA) | ||
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I think the best
performances in "Hush" is given by Agnes Moorehead I think she out acts Davis by far, and gives a more than a convincing performance.
Don't think she was ever given the acknowledgment she deserved for her many character parts, 64 movie characters alone, "Velma" in "Hush" her 59th movie character! De Havilland also gives a "more convincing' performance, especially the scene in the car after they have dumped "Cotton's" body in the swamp, and she get sick of Bette's over acted crying. Olivia literally shots daggers out of her eyes, slaps the holy hell out out Davis and tells her to "shut her mouth" she palyed it so well that I'd have been scared of her LOL | ||
| Post# 615931 , Reply# 24 8/9/2012 at 22:27 (4,277 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
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oh I could not agree with you more...
...Agnes Moorehead gave a brilliant performance in that film, as she did with so many other movies, plays and television shows. She was truely one of the great American actresses. How cool it is to see so much interest in "Charlotte." You watch it for the hundredth time and you still can't wait for that urn to land on Joseph Cotton's and Olivia de Havilland's heads. That Miriam was rotten to the core.
"that's some kinda drug yer givin her" 
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Post# 615936 , Reply# 25 8/9/2012 at 23:08 (4,277 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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The Late Great Agnes Moorehead
Towards her winter of her life lamented for all her excellent body of work on radio, stage, screen and even early television she was most widely known (and probably would be remembered as) the witch "Endora" from "Bewitched".
Ms. Moorehead got abit of religon late in her life and the witch thing must have bothered her no end. IMHO the lady was an under used talent and never got the respect and by extension credit/awards that were her due. Check out Ms. Moorehead in the radio version of "Sorry, Wrong Number". | ||
| Post# 615943 , Reply# 26 8/10/2012 at 00:28 (4,276 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
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| Post# 615947 , Reply# 27 8/10/2012 at 01:16 (4,276 days old) by stan (Napa CA) | ||
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just listened to the | ||
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Post# 615985 , Reply# 28 8/10/2012 at 06:11 (4,276 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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My favorite line from HHSC. "GIT OFF MY PROPERTY," while bradishing & firing a rifle. When the foreman tells her that she could have killed his man, she responds, "If I'd been aimin' to kill him, I would have." A template for a real steel magnolia. | ||
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Post# 615995 , Reply# 29 8/10/2012 at 07:06 (4,276 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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You Forgot My Personal Favourite Bit
When the foreman of the work crew threatens to go into town to complain to some offical about Miss. Hollis's behaviour she shoots back:
" I don't care where you go straight to, just as long as you go; and take them and that with you". Even northern soliders and officers during the civil war learned southern women were not all frail and helpless. | ||
| Post# 616144 , Reply# 30 8/10/2012 at 17:32 (4,276 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
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One More Bette Story:
Years after Bette Davis and Olivia de Havilland made "Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte" together, they were invited to Warner Bros. for a tribute to its classic stars.
As often happens, the event was a catered banquet, held on a Warner Bros. soundstage - in fact, a soundstage that both ladies were very familiar with, with each actress having made some of her most famous movies on it. Late in the evening, an "honor roll" of deceased Warner Bros. greats was called, and of course, many of the names on it were people Bette and Olivia had worked with in the glory days. When it was over, Bette was all sentimental and teary-eyed. She turned to Olivia and gushed, "Oh, Livvie - what ghosts there are in this room!" To which de Havilland tartly replied: "Yes, and wouldn't you just know we'd outlive them all!" | ||
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