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Post# 614823   8/5/2012 at 06:23 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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So last month I bought my first Filter-Flo ever off of ebay. When it got here it was buyers remorse at it's best. None of what the seller said was true about it working and "tested", "A-1" condition.
Anyway, thanks to assistance from club members and needed parts sent to me courtesy of Yogitunes, I was able to finally get it going and posted some pics in an older thread. It was working and clean, but the cabinet is dented in the front. then I came across this GE at a thrift store in Leesburg and got to thinking of doing a body swap and blend the two machines together. So I just got back with it this week and I have some pics to share. This was one of two washers I went on my appliance picking trip to get. |
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Post# 614824 , Reply# 1   8/5/2012 at 06:26 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614825 , Reply# 2   8/5/2012 at 06:32 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614828 , Reply# 3   8/5/2012 at 06:34 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614829 , Reply# 4   8/5/2012 at 06:35 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614830 , Reply# 5   8/5/2012 at 06:37 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614832 , Reply# 6   8/5/2012 at 06:44 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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This washer has the back panel installed where the SpotScrubber did not. So I couldn't tell what other changes GE made in this last of the FLo's.
I will remove the back panel for further doner comparability between the two. It's a strong runner with a VERY aggressive agitation. Even though it's a BOL, It's a shame to tear it apart. |
Post# 614917 , Reply# 7   8/5/2012 at 15:14 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614919 , Reply# 8   8/5/2012 at 15:14 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614920 , Reply# 9   8/5/2012 at 15:16 (4,288 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614990 , Reply# 10   8/5/2012 at 18:58 (4,287 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614991 , Reply# 11   8/5/2012 at 19:01 (4,287 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614992 , Reply# 12   8/5/2012 at 19:02 (4,287 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614995 , Reply# 13   8/5/2012 at 19:07 (4,287 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 614999 , Reply# 14   8/5/2012 at 19:42 (4,287 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 615000 , Reply# 15   8/5/2012 at 19:43 (4,287 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615004 , Reply# 16   8/5/2012 at 19:48 (4,287 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I noticed the back panel is just simple pressed cardboard and I've only seen these in 2 conditions, destroyed and water logged. They are also 'Hella' expensive! So I decided to at least coat it with something to prolong the day it needs replaced or I take it off completely.
The only real reason to keep the cover on is for noise reduction and to keep the critters of the 4 and 8 legged variety out of the internals. |
Post# 615007 , Reply# 17   8/5/2012 at 19:50 (4,287 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615009 , Reply# 18   8/5/2012 at 19:59 (4,287 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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...I test fitted the Filter-Flo pan from the SpotScrubber and it fits on the agitator of the newer washer. I understand that the SpotScrubber filter pan is a little larger in diameter, but it fit just the same. I now "need" a standard Filter-Flo pan since it didn't come with one.
Here is an example of the type of cycle lights I wanted to custom add to the washer to indicate water temps and "SpotScrubber" activity. They are from a Commercial Speed Queen. |
Post# 615048 , Reply# 19   8/6/2012 at 01:23 (4,287 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615051 , Reply# 20   8/6/2012 at 02:31 (4,287 days old) by doug (West Virgina)   |   | |
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Post# 615465 , Reply# 21   8/7/2012 at 19:48 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I had this 90% full can of spray paint laying around for over 10 years and decided it was finally the day to use it.
I remember that when I had used it prior, the spray valve was defective, causing the paint to build up at the tip and then get spit in a goober-like fashion, ruining any smooth finish you were trying to create. So in this case I used that "defect" to a creative advantage. After all, I was just painting a piece of cardboard. Here is the panel painted and re installed. |
Post# 615468 , Reply# 22   8/7/2012 at 19:53 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615469 , Reply# 23   8/7/2012 at 19:56 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615471 , Reply# 24   8/7/2012 at 20:00 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615472 , Reply# 25   8/7/2012 at 20:04 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615473 , Reply# 26   8/7/2012 at 20:07 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615475 , Reply# 27   8/7/2012 at 20:12 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615476 , Reply# 28   8/7/2012 at 20:14 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615478 , Reply# 29   8/7/2012 at 20:16 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615480 , Reply# 30   8/7/2012 at 20:29 (4,285 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 615487 , Reply# 31   8/7/2012 at 21:15 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615490 , Reply# 32   8/7/2012 at 21:22 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615491 , Reply# 33   8/7/2012 at 21:24 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615492 , Reply# 34   8/7/2012 at 21:31 (4,285 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615494 , Reply# 35   8/7/2012 at 21:43 (4,285 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 615524 , Reply# 36   8/8/2012 at 01:30 (4,285 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 615534 , Reply# 37   8/8/2012 at 03:30 (4,285 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Lovely machine and great to see the insides and all explained, the hoses are in the same position as our Hotpoint models, and very similar parts as well as the cardboard back panel, the spooky thing is the paint you used on the rear panel is the same colourway as the official UK Hotpoint Filter-Flow 1970`s models!!
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Post# 615712 , Reply# 38   8/8/2012 at 20:43 (4,284 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 615749 , Reply# 39   8/9/2012 at 02:06 (4,284 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 615839 , Reply# 40   8/9/2012 at 12:49 (4,284 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 615843 , Reply# 41   8/9/2012 at 13:13 (4,284 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 615844 , Reply# 42   8/9/2012 at 13:19 (4,284 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Here is a link I used when I had issues with oil leak and worn oil seal, this link is of a canadian beaumark washer which internal is the exact thing of a Filter-flo as it was made by them.....
You can easlily understand once basket is removed that you cannot easily fit the stainless basket in those 3 shaft things that hold it with the 3 bolts..... Why change it then? CLICK HERE TO GO TO kenmoreguy89's LINK This post was last edited 08/09/2012 at 17:30 |
Post# 616296 , Reply# 43   8/11/2012 at 10:47 (4,282 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616392 , Reply# 44   8/11/2012 at 17:44 (4,282 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 616397 , Reply# 45   8/11/2012 at 17:58 (4,282 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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You may try to ask if he still have it.....very unlikely though....
Hey no wait! He saved the console! CLICK HERE TO GO TO kenmoreguy89's LINK |
Post# 616404 , Reply# 46   8/11/2012 at 18:26 (4,282 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Well, the speeds (guessing that your one is a 1 speed cluch) and all other functions except for the auto-extra rinse will not work in your model, but if you would like to have a new chromed and black console you may change it, I think you could do that, is all about wiring.....
Not sure if you will have the need to adapt or change anything else then..... |
Post# 616414 , Reply# 47   8/11/2012 at 19:07 (4,281 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Alex
if its just the chrome ends you want changed, that only takes a few minutes..... you can change over the whole panel, but for now, you won't have two speeds until you install a two speed clutch, and the activation solenoid......easily done and of course, the water level may have to be adjusted, since the new panel comes from an ExLarge machine, and yours is a standard capacity, but again, easily done... worth a shot! |
Post# 616744 , Reply# 48   8/13/2012 at 07:19 (4,280 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Actually, I want the whole console changed out if it's not gonna blow my whole budget. I wrote to that guy about the console you mentioned kenmoreguy, but have not heard back. I did however find this kit for 2-speed clutch conversion with new motor, relay and wiring harness. It's $190. Sooooo just gonna remain eye candy for now.
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Post# 616745 , Reply# 49   8/13/2012 at 07:23 (4,280 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616746 , Reply# 50   8/13/2012 at 07:23 (4,280 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616748 , Reply# 51   8/13/2012 at 07:32 (4,280 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Yes, I have a once speed clutch. And as Yogi's keen eye pointed out to me, this machine is of the standard capacity and would involve a more significant parts changeover from the original XL capacity SpotScrubber.
It is all cherry inside and out and would be a shame to tear it apart. But if I did keep it the panel would have to go to make it more visually appealing to me. |
Post# 616749 , Reply# 52   8/13/2012 at 07:35 (4,280 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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Back when i worked for GE around 1980 the appliances had a shot of green spray paint on the back. Someone told me they called that the "green dot of dependability". I don't see it on these newer machines.
Ken D. |
Post# 616754 , Reply# 53   8/13/2012 at 07:56 (4,280 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 616762 , Reply# 54   8/13/2012 at 09:35 (4,280 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 616765 , Reply# 55   8/13/2012 at 10:12 (4,280 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Wasn't sure if that kit was compatible, but I figured someone here would tell me :).
Thanks Yogi for sending me that care package. Thanks to you I now have the correct Filter-Flo pan for this washer. It's a smaller diameter than the Spotscrubber mini basket pan, so you can see more of that extreme rollover action! **Alert, the seller agreed to my "make offer" price of $20 and I am the official new owner of the 8-Cycle control panel in sexy black. So I gain a few extras built into the timer that aren't activated by additional switches. Kinda cool, like the Auto 2nd rinse in the "extra clean" cycle. Can't wait to try it on. Now, what do I need to convert it over to a 2-speed? |
Post# 616766 , Reply# 56   8/13/2012 at 10:21 (4,280 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616767 , Reply# 57   8/13/2012 at 10:25 (4,280 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616773 , Reply# 58   8/13/2012 at 11:04 (4,280 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 616826 , Reply# 59   8/13/2012 at 16:39 (4,280 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 616869 , Reply# 60   8/13/2012 at 22:19 (4,279 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Sorry that you didn't hear from that guy, I just suggested you as I remebered of it..... but try to wait a little bit, maybe he is on vacation, you know it's August.....
Anyway that square shaped console is nice also! Not sure if the square one can fit on these models...it will? It's very nice as well! I'm happy you got that 2 Speed motor also and for that good price. Wished it was so easy to find one for me but 220 volt 50hz to change on my one, as my clutch has gone and now run on 1 speed only, sincerely it is one thing I'm feared to mess with....you know it would be best to find a new motor+clutch+solenoid already mounted, I can't go wrong with it. Martin once tried to explain me how to do to replace the clutch, but I'm concerned to do a mess with and anyway would need a new solenoid also, as it is not in that good shape , it suffered alot the oil leak from the lower seal 2 years ago..... Getting in Italy a new motor assembly that runs at 220 volt is such an ardous task as GE dealers now only have parts for the new models...I may try to go with Latin America parts shop where they have 220 volt but who knows what I will get then? Actually I think the transmission will also fail in the next years, it ran alot and of course can't last forever, it just had a lower shaft seal failure so I'm expecting the next one ìwill be into the tub, not to mention a gear failure, I do not even want to think of it, finger crossed, but that will happend sooner or later and already know that will be a great mess... Will try to keep her alive till I can.... I'm talking too much... :D Congrats and good luck! |
Post# 616924 , Reply# 61   8/14/2012 at 04:06 (4,279 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616938 , Reply# 62   8/14/2012 at 07:03 (4,279 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 616940 , Reply# 63   8/14/2012 at 07:36 (4,279 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616942 , Reply# 64   8/14/2012 at 07:43 (4,279 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 616953 , Reply# 65   8/14/2012 at 08:14 (4,279 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616954 , Reply# 66   8/14/2012 at 08:16 (4,279 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616961 , Reply# 67   8/14/2012 at 08:35 (4,279 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 616966 , Reply# 68   8/14/2012 at 08:42 (4,279 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616967 , Reply# 69   8/14/2012 at 08:43 (4,279 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 616968 , Reply# 70   8/14/2012 at 08:44 (4,279 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 616970 , Reply# 71   8/14/2012 at 08:47 (4,279 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617008 , Reply# 72   8/14/2012 at 12:16 (4,279 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617013 , Reply# 73   8/14/2012 at 12:45 (4,279 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 617059 , Reply# 74   8/14/2012 at 18:59 (4,278 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617142 , Reply# 75   8/14/2012 at 23:21 (4,278 days old) by d-jones (Western Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh Area))   |   | |
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Post# 617208 , Reply# 76   8/15/2012 at 09:45 (4,278 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617276 , Reply# 77   8/15/2012 at 16:49 (4,278 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617296 , Reply# 78   8/15/2012 at 18:18 (4,278 days old) by d-jones (Western Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh Area))   |   | |
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Post# 617299 , Reply# 79   8/15/2012 at 18:24 (4,278 days old) by toploadloyalist (San Luis Obispo, CA)   |   | |
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What year did GE washers first stopped agitating with the lid open? Back in the 70s, I had neighbors with a c.1969 GE (the first filter-flo I ever saw!) that continued agitating with the lid open. |
Post# 617319 , Reply# 80   8/15/2012 at 20:09 (4,277 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Alex the solenoid you pictured was a very rare one that was only used on the three and four speed clutches. These 3&4 SP clutches used two of these solenoids, this solenoid will not work for the much more popular two SP clutch you have. It is amazing to even see one of these rare solenoids. I recently sold a 3 SP GE washer to GE extra-rince[ Matthew ] maybe he needs this, but I have never seen a bad one. |
Post# 617345 , Reply# 81   8/15/2012 at 20:55 (4,277 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617356 , Reply# 82   8/15/2012 at 21:11 (4,277 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617454 , Reply# 83   8/16/2012 at 05:59 (4,277 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617460 , Reply# 84   8/16/2012 at 06:17 (4,277 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 617909 , Reply# 85   8/17/2012 at 16:36 (4,276 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617911 , Reply# 86   8/17/2012 at 16:38 (4,276 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 617916 , Reply# 87   8/17/2012 at 16:58 (4,276 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 618000 , Reply# 88   8/17/2012 at 22:45 (4,275 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 618002 , Reply# 89   8/17/2012 at 22:51 (4,275 days old) by qualin (Canada)   |   | |
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You know, that's one thing I really liked are those chrome ring knobs from newer GE washers. They make the washer look a lot more expensive than it is. Those knobs also suffer from yellowing as well.. but at least they're newer. |
Post# 618424 , Reply# 90   8/19/2012 at 16:36 (4,274 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Luckily these have not. The newer knobs are from our 7-year old washer which is in a laundry room without windows. If we had had a window in there I'm sure they would too have yellowed like you said.
I wanted to try them on for size. They fit perfectly, including the timer knob. It would be a swell upgrade to give the beige and white facade a little bling factor with the chrome rings, but I'm a sucker for black-n-chrome, and going to switch out the console as I mentioned above. But still, my how the mighty have fallen. GE used to have some real lookers for their laundry equipment back in the day and I often wonder what happened to the magic? Then I saw this book and read the synopsis, it explained all. Looks like good reading. "With convincing passion and meticulous research, Thomas F. O'Boyle explores the forces behind General Electric's rise to the top of Wall Street, questioning if GE, with chief executive officer Jack Welch at the helm, is still "bringing good things to life." Welch--explosive, profit-hungry, and pragmatic--catapulted GE's stocks to the top, up 1,155 percent from 1982 to 1997. O'Boyle argues that these astounding results have come only with the heavy price of employees' lives, blighted under the tyranny of "Neutron Jack" Welch, so named for his bomb-like ability to eliminate staff without disturbing surrounding operations. During Welch's reign, hard-nosed success tactics--unblinking downsizing, ruthless acquisition negotiations, and the virtual abandonment of manufacturing in favor of the more glamorous entertainment and financial services industries--coexist with scandals like price-fixing, pollution, and defense contract fraud. Sure to spark controversy, this gripping, comprehensive account begs the greater question: Is Jack Welch's GE a model company for business in the next century, or is it time to change the way the world does business? "Smoothly written and thoroughly researched." --USA Today "This book makes a valuable contribution to our understanding of corporate America. . . . Thomas F. O'Boyle persuades you that GE--Jack Welch's GE--brings bad things to life. In abundance." --Washington Monthly |
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** Something related I posted in another thread regarding modified GE Filtewr-Flo**
I have an extra Stainless steel basket from a newer GE I thought of having modified to fit the Filter-Flo. The newer tub uses a mounting hub and it is that hub that would need to be drilled to accept the filter flo tub mount. I spoke to a welder about possibly welding something together and he was afraid the Newer tub hub was made of "pot" metal and would not stand up to any temperatures welding would create. :( He also mentioned it would be very hard to get everything "hubcentric" to eliminate any balancing issues. Not to big a deal for washing, but not ideal when spinning. |
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** continued **
It would be easy to modify a drain pump from any washer or dish washer to act as a re circulation pump, the rub would be in creating an opening deep enough into the outer tub to provide for pickup and prevent cavitation. It would also be very noisy since it would have to run constantly during the wash cycle, sometimes as long as 14 minutes? And I would also have to create some kind of balance ring as I don't think the upper stainless steel tub would be able to resist deformation during a high spin without some kind of bracing. |
Post# 619021 , Reply# 95   8/21/2012 at 17:24 (4,272 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I know were talking all GE here......but wouldn't the SS tub of a newer Speed Queen fit the bill better......especially the opening for the tranny, I am trying to recall the tubs bottom under the agitator....not to mention this would have the balance ring too........
something to check out! I would have to jump over to my brothers and pull his agitator out and snap a pic.....give me a little time Alex... |
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Post# 619341 , Reply# 106   8/22/2012 at 23:28 (4,270 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA)   |   | |
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Ebay... CLICK HERE TO GO TO dnastrau's LINK on eBay |
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Post# 619561 , Reply# 114   8/23/2012 at 17:46 (4,270 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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it does look better with the black squared panel, and the red graphics....oddly enough, the speed toggle should have been chrome....
with a dremel tool, you can file down the clover leaf of the water level, and get a true half load, and small can still be used alone, or with a minibasket....just a thought |
Post# 619639 , Reply# 115   8/23/2012 at 22:29 (4,269 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 619935 , Reply# 118   8/25/2012 at 00:34 (4,268 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 620465 , Reply# 121   8/26/2012 at 20:06 (4,266 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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First year in the states was 1956.
You would be very lucky if you find a Versatronic that works, I have never seen one, it wasn't a very durable clutch design and actually NO GE two speed, three speed and four speed clutch was very durable if you used the lower speeds much as it slipped constantly. It is like having manual transmission car and driving with your left foot resting on the clutch petal. Occasionally I would find a customer with a GE washer that only used the low speed settings and if they did much laundry the clutch would only last a 1/2 dozen years at best.
The Dispensall feature was unique but offered no functional advantage over the models before it that had the timed bleach and fabric softener dispersers neatly built into the washers top and it was messier and more troublesome.
The last GE FF spot scrubber was a pretty neat washer and is diffidently a good performer and all the above washers are worth collecting for the unique rareness. |
Post# 620755 , Reply# 122   8/27/2012 at 22:54 (4,265 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 620757 , Reply# 123   8/27/2012 at 23:05 (4,265 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Since we had hurricane Issac giving us rainy weather and i was stuck inside, I decided to try and switch out the Filter-Flo consoles. I wired everything up except the speed selector switch since I don't have provisions for that in my original wiring harness and fired her up. The machine began to fill and I was all smitten until the water kicked off and the lights dimmed. I heard a click and lights came back on. Figured the timer might be stuck so i gave it a whirl and selected a higher water level and started again. Same thing happened. So I next tried reattaching my old water level and temp switches and only hooked up the timer. Again, lights dim and nothing but a click. So I just reattached my original console and verified everything worked. May have something to do with the colors of the multi-plug to the motors. Some are Green (like mine), others are red or white. Will have to experiment when I have that 2-speed clutch and relay handy.
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Post# 620816 , Reply# 124   8/28/2012 at 07:12 (4,265 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 621237 , Reply# 125   8/30/2012 at 02:02 (4,263 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 621264 , Reply# 126   8/30/2012 at 06:15 (4,263 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 621727 , Reply# 127   9/1/2012 at 07:40 (4,261 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 621728 , Reply# 128   9/1/2012 at 07:43 (4,261 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 621866 , Reply# 135   9/1/2012 at 18:41 (4,261 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 622176 , Reply# 136   9/2/2012 at 21:17 (4,259 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I did shoot a short video of the mini-basket experiment to illustrate what happened.
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Post# 622652 , Reply# 137   9/5/2012 at 01:48 (4,257 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I've been busy lately and have neglected to run my Spotscrubber Filter-Flo for a few weeks and decided it was time to take her out for a spin. I had been having some load balancing issues due to missing and worn out rubber pads on the washer feet. Thankfully, yogitunes heard my cries for help, like princessLeia looking for Obi Wan, and sent me a few replacements.
As you can see from the photo, the older pad I had looked like Gandhi's flip flop and had seen better days. (on the right) |
Post# 622654 , Reply# 138   9/5/2012 at 01:53 (4,257 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 622659 , Reply# 139   9/5/2012 at 02:48 (4,257 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 622663 , Reply# 140   9/5/2012 at 03:18 (4,257 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Ebay: Genuine GE WH41X113 Washer Recirc Hose NEW in Package
For some odd reason the seller has it listed under "building supplies/tubing" category instead of laundry parts, go figure. He's got it on sale from $49.99, marked down to $42.99 + 2.99 shipping. I posted a link to it. Let me know if it doesn't work. "SURRENDER THAT WINDOWED NEPTUNE DRYER DOOR DOROTHY, OR ELSE!~" CLICK HERE TO GO TO tecnopolis's LINK on eBay |
Post# 622668 , Reply# 141   9/5/2012 at 03:43 (4,257 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 622712 , Reply# 142   9/5/2012 at 08:35 (4,257 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 622831 , Reply# 143   9/5/2012 at 18:22 (4,257 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 622912 , Reply# 144   9/6/2012 at 03:51 (4,256 days old) by MikeKLondon (London)   |   | |
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Mike that Hotpoint looks like new, what year was the last one made? |
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Post# 623775 , Reply# 146   9/9/2012 at 22:31 (4,252 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 623934 , Reply# 147   9/10/2012 at 15:21 (4,252 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Jetcone,
What's sudden interest in the Filter-Flo hose? It's woefully overpriced and there are less expensive replacements. Is there an advantage to this "all in one" design? I prefer the white "Never kink" corrugated hoses since you can somewhat see through them and can keep an eye on any bacterial growth. -Alex |
Post# 623953 , Reply# 148   9/10/2012 at 16:33 (4,252 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 624730 , Reply# 149   9/13/2012 at 18:11 (4,249 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Once I had gotten the SpotScubber leveled out I got into the habit of letting the cycle complete without watching over it. Well, the other night I just happened to come out to find the washer in the final spin and this loud repetitive clicking/clacking noise coming from the washer that sounded remotely like the speed shift engagement of the solenoid and clutch. So I shut the washer off and restarted it, only to have the same noise return. Go to the back of the machine and find this tiny weeping leak coming from the area of where the drain hose attaches to the water pump. The water ran down the motor yoke, up and over the wiring harness and thru the connector leading to the clutch solenoid. Possibly shorting it out. I then turned my attention to the "never kink" PVC drain hose and found it was splitting apart at the seam. These hoses are tuff new, but get hella brittle as they age and one day just split. OK, So I'll be replacing it with a new hose, but that brings me back to the clutch/solenoid problem. Now my washer is stuck on "gentle" spin/agitate.
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Post# 624736 , Reply# 152   9/13/2012 at 18:22 (4,249 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 625203 , Reply# 153   9/15/2012 at 16:12 (4,247 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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.. A bright and shiny newer motor/clutch and relay assembly is a sight to behold though, might have to just break-down and buy one, even if it costs almost as much a whole machine on the used market.
Not sure if the green connector is going to make any difference to the red one on the original, they are both equipped with 2-speed clutches. Maybe related to horsepower? 1/3, 1/2 or 1/4? |
Post# 625227 , Reply# 154   9/15/2012 at 18:30 (4,247 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 625234 , Reply# 158   9/15/2012 at 18:55 (4,247 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 625235 , Reply# 159   9/15/2012 at 19:00 (4,246 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 626725 , Reply# 160   9/22/2012 at 05:06 (4,240 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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The machine always started out in slow agitation regardless of cycle. Just about when the tub locks into place, it changes into normal agitation. I disconnected the solenoid with no change. The assembly is pretty gunked up, and I can definitely smell the distinct odor of old gear oil when she's in a spin and that motor coupler is blowing air out of the cabinet. Maybe it's bound, a broken return spring?
I found this kit online for a new complete motor, belt, clutch and relay to put on my wish list if I wanted to take the easy way out, but that's not how we do it here on AW.O! One thing that I need answered is regarding this warning label included with the kit. Does this make buying a used motor an act in futility if it doesn't come with it's previous relay? |
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Post# 626970 , Reply# 164   9/22/2012 at 23:23 (4,239 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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** I got my normal/fast speed back! **
It seems that little actuator arm for the speed solenoid was bent. Even though the relay wasn't energized, the arm would not drop down far enough and still made enough contact to keep the clutch engaged, hence the continuous gentle/slow speed. GE did not make it easy to fix either, unless you want to tilt the machiene forward, the relay is not only hard to see, but also to get at. I had to get my brightest LED lamp jammed into the motor yoke just to get enough light in there to work on it. There are 2 peep holes on the side of the yoke, but move your head and you loose sight of it. Very frustrating. I was finally able to bent it back a bit to free the clutch cam and Ba-bamm, I'm back in Biz! I have not tried to reengage gentle mode until I am ready to repair the actuator arm. Right now I have to divert my attention to repairing my Neptune bearings, at least I don't have to replace any major part$! |
Post# 627394 , Reply# 165   9/24/2012 at 21:24 (4,237 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Tonight I replaced the split drain hose with a spare hose I had for a Whirlpool Duet, connected the speed solenoid back up, and started the machine.
Filled, started to agitate in gentle as normal, and then, click, back into fast agitate/spin for the rest of the cycle. So it appears the speed solenoid and actuator arm are working properly. |
Post# 627396 , Reply# 166   9/24/2012 at 21:31 (4,237 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 627397 , Reply# 167   9/24/2012 at 21:32 (4,237 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 627398 , Reply# 168   9/24/2012 at 21:33 (4,237 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 627407 , Reply# 169   9/24/2012 at 22:08 (4,237 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 627457 , Reply# 170   9/25/2012 at 08:57 (4,237 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I decided to run another test load, this time with the Permanent Press cycle. It consists of Gentle agitation and fast spins with the extra rinse. The speed solenoid would be getting quite a workout here. Machine performed flawlessly, no issues. Seems these old GE's are tough and hard to kill. Rust-through is probably what sends these out to pasture versus outright mechanical failure.
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Post# 627470 , Reply# 171   9/25/2012 at 10:24 (4,237 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 627632 , Reply# 173   9/26/2012 at 06:19 (4,236 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 627643 , Reply# 174   9/26/2012 at 07:28 (4,236 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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A few notes.
GE 2SP clutch washers always start on low speed when set for Hi SP, they will shift to high as the clutches carrier plate comes up to speed from the friction in the carrier plate bearing, this can take as little as a few seconds to more than 30 seconds, this is completely normal.
The motor start relay should be replaced when replacing the motor if the old motor had an electrical failure or if the motor being installed is not the exact motor that was originally on the washer. It should also always be used if it comes packed with the replacement motor.
You can not use the Mini-Basket or agitator mounted lint filter on the two piece HP style agitators, these first two features were exclusive GE features and the two piece agitator was given only to HP and its derivatives like Penn-Crest. |
Post# 627650 , Reply# 175   9/26/2012 at 08:26 (4,236 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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fits the 1950's FF machines so its a keeper! But someone here on the club was nice enough to snag it for me and is sending it to me.
As for price , well where am I gonna find a 1950's part these days? Its blind luck to keeping things original. But wait there is another much later model FF in the offing coming soon to a basement near me!! Details to follow as the Multiverse unfolds! |
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Post# 628029 , Reply# 178   9/28/2012 at 07:09 (4,234 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 628154 , Reply# 179   9/28/2012 at 19:03 (4,233 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 628822 , Reply# 180   10/1/2012 at 19:29 (4,230 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Who needs tv or radio, just search on AW.org for threads with tecnopolis tackling heavy metal....always interesting and funny between - so, Alex...what else is planned for the much modified FF or is it complete and working as you wanted?
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Post# 628835 , Reply# 181   10/1/2012 at 20:14 (4,230 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I am at a crossroads, I have to decide weather to combine the best of the best or not, that is the question. I would be happy with having just one Filter-Flo. I would more than likely just sell the rest of what's left over, since some parts aren't quite interchangeable if I want to remain true to the way the machines are labeled. Such as Large and extra-large capacity. Being able to fit the special Spot Scrubber Mini-wash basket,filter pan, fabric softener disp and be able to close the lid. You can't do that with the shallower Large capacity wash tub, not even with the smaller mini-basket. Sounds like I just made up my mind.
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Post# 628842 , Reply# 182   10/1/2012 at 20:46 (4,230 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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At least you chart your own road and go for it..you get a lot of bang for the buck, and bucked around getting ..well, never mind. :-) I take it that you have a plethora of different baskets - thought of this thread, when I saw this on CL. Good work, Alex, whether it panned (basketed) out or not. :-)
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Post# 628868 , Reply# 183   10/1/2012 at 22:13 (4,230 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Actually, that isn't my listing. Good deal though if you don't have to have it shipped, as the whole assembly is bulky and heavy.
My Filter-Flo chapter only began a few months ago, so I haven't had time to accumulate too many duplicates. And like you said, these birds aren't as rare as the models featured in some of the POD advertisements. I think one fully functioning Flo is gonna have to do. They way I figure it, It would cost more to have the dents/rust fixed and the cabinet repainted, than to body snatch the white cabinet. |
Post# 628873 , Reply# 184   10/1/2012 at 22:31 (4,230 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Having both versions around has been very helpful. Seeing what makes them different was a good learning tool and that is priceless. Now, the next time I come across one for sale I'll know what to look for. Which is a great negotiating tool.
So watch this space, I sense change a'cummin. Don't tell anybody, but there is this older creamy, beige Maytag pair for sale locally that are soo cheery and selling for the low, so I might have to quickly make room should they just suddenly appear at the entrance to my driveway. You know what I herd? Once you try a Maytag helical gear, you never go back. We'll see if the rumors are true. I'm on the case. |
Post# 628876 , Reply# 185   10/1/2012 at 22:35 (4,230 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 628880 , Reply# 187   10/1/2012 at 22:59 (4,230 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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..wasn't alluding that it was your listing - just reminded me of the baskets you were trying to retrofit....
IS THAT YOUR Filter-Flo with the Energy Guide sticker, in front of that white and cream truck? Wow. BTW, Ocala Craigslisting is good; those Maytags look regal in beige ( fun in turquoise, yellow). Not sure what you are saying about helical trans(my '84 A482 Maytag is helical).... thought the orbital trans were actually the more coveted. Whadda I know? :-) |
Post# 628881 , Reply# 188   10/1/2012 at 23:15 (4,230 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 628910 , Reply# 190   10/2/2012 at 05:59 (4,230 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 628922 , Reply# 191   10/2/2012 at 07:56 (4,230 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 628949 , Reply# 192   10/2/2012 at 10:34 (4,230 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Don't worry bajaespuma, As long as there is an Automaticwasher.org, this information will always be part of the archives.
Robert has always run a tight ship, so I'm sure we aren't going by way of the Sumerians anytime soon. Although, the Mayans do say to keep your calendar free after Dec,22,2012. Jus sayn. |
Post# 628950 , Reply# 193   10/2/2012 at 10:48 (4,230 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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I watched in mesmerizing daze, an orbital trans demo shown in a tour of old washers, youtube. It's interesting how the motor shaft is translated to achieve the back and forth motion(the "force" was with the inventor that day).
Hope you kept that first GE FF - just LOVE that model. Older washers/dryers r so much more spirited...etc. Recommendation of the day: don't get pinched, it has repercussions. |
Post# 628959 , Reply# 194   10/2/2012 at 11:09 (4,230 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 629019 , Reply# 195   10/2/2012 at 16:45 (4,230 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I wanted to add this reply I left in another thread related to diagnosing speed actuator issues.
"keepitclean, Having just gone through what you are describing. I'll give you a few things to check to verify the position of your clutch during operation. **The GE workshop manual specifically states DO NOT switch speeds with the motor engaged** 1) All muti-speed GE flo's start out in gentle, then switch to regular agitate. 2) If your machine starts out in regular fast or won't engage gentle, your solenoid is not getting power or jammed. The default speed is regular if there isn't any interaction from the actuator arm. 3) This last one is the hardest. Get a very bright flashlight and verify the position of the speed actuator arm. If it's down and not making any contact with the clutch cams, you should have normal/fast. If it's in the up position with it's paw holding one of the 2 clutch cams, you're in gentle. If you have it switched to Normal/fast and the cam is still up, you either have a short in the wiring keeping the solenoid energized or the cam arm is sticky/bent to far upwards and isn't comming down low enough to clear the spinning clutch cams. (Which was what happened to me when a leak energized the actuator during the wrong time, bending the arm, I took a long screwdriver and rebent the arm back down to clear the clutch cams and restarted the machine with normal back in biz." |
Post# 631364 , Reply# 196   10/13/2012 at 18:23 (4,219 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 631809 , Reply# 197   10/15/2012 at 11:11 (4,217 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 631810 , Reply# 198   10/15/2012 at 11:12 (4,217 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 631811 , Reply# 199   10/15/2012 at 11:14 (4,217 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 631851 , Reply# 200   10/15/2012 at 14:06 (4,217 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I was out in the lab with my Filter-Flo and decided to run a small enough load to warrant use of the mini-basket. Although this washer doesn't have a "mini-wash" setting, I just set it on the low water level setting. Well, after a few minutes of washing I lifted the lid and was surprised at what I saw. My first Suds Cake! |
Post# 631852 , Reply# 201   10/15/2012 at 14:08 (4,217 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 632156 , Reply# 202   10/16/2012 at 17:57 (4,216 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 632159 , Reply# 203   10/16/2012 at 18:05 (4,216 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 632160 , Reply# 204   10/16/2012 at 18:07 (4,216 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 632163 , Reply# 205   10/16/2012 at 18:18 (4,216 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 632186 , Reply# 206   10/16/2012 at 20:59 (4,215 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 632305 , Reply# 207   10/17/2012 at 09:50 (4,215 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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I believe JC Penney sold rebadged Hotpoint washers, and after a certain year (late 1970s?) Hotpoint washers switched to the GE design.
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Post# 632318 , Reply# 208   10/17/2012 at 10:56 (4,215 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I noticed that the JCPenny's dryer has an extra lower fascia where a STD capacity GE dryer would have an open toe-kick. That addition is something GE should have done on their own dryers once they did away with the foot pedal opener. It would blend better with the companion washer of the time. Such as in this picture from the Archives. This post was last edited 10/17/2012 at 11:12 |
Post# 632322 , Reply# 209   10/17/2012 at 11:10 (4,215 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 632323 , Reply# 210   10/17/2012 at 11:11 (4,215 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 632327 , Reply# 211   10/17/2012 at 11:24 (4,215 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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What this shows is how versatile the Filter-Flo chassis really is and how clever GE was/is in getting the most models out there using the same tooling and factories. What this means for us is that you can literally build your own custom "couture" Filter-Flo washer from all the available parts. Standard or large capacity, mini basket, filter-flo/rim-flo, 1-speed/2-speed or more. Side opening lid/back opening lid. Suds saver, lighted console. 6"/7" tall console, chrome/mono-chromatic finish, etc. Truly customized to your taste and budget! And you can do all of that to the companion dryer, so you'll always have the option of a "matched set".
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Post# 634544 , Reply# 213   10/26/2012 at 16:44 (4,206 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 634558 , Reply# 214   10/26/2012 at 19:33 (4,205 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Post# 634807 , Reply# 215   10/28/2012 at 00:20 (4,204 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 635526 , Reply# 216   10/31/2012 at 18:04 (4,201 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 636659 , Reply# 218   11/5/2012 at 05:01 (4,196 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 636662 , Reply# 220   11/5/2012 at 05:14 (4,196 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 636663 , Reply# 221   11/5/2012 at 05:15 (4,196 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 636665 , Reply# 222   11/5/2012 at 05:27 (4,196 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 636673 , Reply# 223   11/5/2012 at 05:53 (4,196 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York )   |   | |
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Post# 636725 , Reply# 224   11/5/2012 at 11:41 (4,196 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Well my intention was to keep all the research I did on the Filter-Flo under one "roof" so it wood be easy to access for someone like me who only a few months ago didn't know much about the inner workings of the washer. And not have to bounce around from thread to thread to get up to speed. Jus sayn. -Alex
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Post# 636726 , Reply# 225   11/5/2012 at 11:43 (4,196 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 640130 , Reply# 228   11/19/2012 at 01:12 (4,182 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 640131 , Reply# 229   11/19/2012 at 01:13 (4,182 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 640132 , Reply# 230   11/19/2012 at 01:16 (4,182 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 640215 , Reply# 231   11/19/2012 at 11:44 (4,182 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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I woke up today after a restless night of sleep with a gnawing feeling in my stomach and realized I just didn't need another washer/dryer set sitting around. I reluctantly called the seller and told her I was gonna pass on them. I guess I need to stop having a knee-jerk reaction every time I see a Filter-Flo for sale. I can't save them all. :(
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Post# 640226 , Reply# 232   11/19/2012 at 12:25 (4,182 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 640229 , Reply# 233   11/19/2012 at 12:57 (4,182 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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technolpolis - It's a good thing you don't have a warehouse, like some of the aw.org members do, you might end up with a museum, full of ads and graphic signs, memorabilia...centering around Maytag. The Madison, GA Bubblecar museum, we recently visited, reminded me of those who have huge w&D collections, among other appliances. Your graphics are entertaining, as usual - that one with Interstate 30 - thought of Route 66 that I was lucky to use, before the freeway replaced it completely.
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Post# 641690 , Reply# 239   11/26/2012 at 08:10 (4,175 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 643190 , Reply# 240   12/1/2012 at 13:41 (4,170 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 647267 , Reply# 243   12/18/2012 at 01:08 (4,153 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 647275 , Reply# 245   12/18/2012 at 02:47 (4,153 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 647872 , Reply# 246   12/20/2012 at 10:22 (4,151 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Alex....let's go outside the box for a minute.....
how badly damaged is the rubber insert of your valve unit.....is it possible to re-line the inside with something like a tube of rubber from a bicycle tire innertube?..... it would slide inside, using rubber cement to secure in place, and trim any excess..... I also wonder how far off, if a pinch valve rubber insert from a Hoover TwinTub would work? just a few thoughts..... |
Post# 647897 , Reply# 247   12/20/2012 at 12:08 (4,151 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Hey Tecnopolis------your valve looks like an exact single valve model of my dual exit valve suds model. I just got parts from Easy Appliance, they are disontinued, No Longer Available, and still in stock. Attached is the diagram of my suds valve, you'll see it's just a dual port version of yours. Link is for part #926 from the diagram. I simply needed 2 of the 4 springs for it, it still was rough as hell, then I got some white lithium greases inside along those metal slides and in those rectangular grooves in the case, it's perfect now. Try that for yours once the leaky valve is replaced.
What exactly does your single port valve do, as the "SPotscrubber" function?
Also, this thread takes forever to load, could you start Filter Flo Nation #2?
And Martin----my indexing is MINOR, and doesn't index with no clothes. I will keep an eye on it, not much else for now. Other than that, a wonderfully functioning machine here. CLICK HERE TO GO TO akronman's LINK |
Post# 647930 , Reply# 248   12/20/2012 at 14:17 (4,151 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Yogi, Yes I have thought of the bicycle inner tube as a sleeve fix for the tube repair, but wanted to make sure I exhausted my options on finding an OEM solution before I went the MacGyver route.
As it turns out, I just ordered a complete used pinch valve assembly with a good hose for $75. Not exactly cheap, but a lot less than the $126 I've been quoted for the hose alone. It comes with a 90 day warranty. Hopefully this will get my machine back to factory specs and operation. I Can't have knobs and cycles that don't work. If your like me (and I know you are), the little things seem to bother me just as much as the larger things. Case in point, the missing lid bumpers. Ya, not exactly something that would stop me from being able to use the machine, but it sure did feel better once I got and installed them. It was like Christmas morning. Sometimes that level of attention to detail can derail me, but I see it more of a gift as apposed to a curse. Akronman, The SpotScrubber cycle is nothing more than an automatic feature to temporary halt the filter flo stream into the special SpotScrubber mini basket once it is filled. The mini basket does not have the typical drain holes located in the bottom which allows the concentrated water and detergent mixture time to work on heavy soil. After a few minutes the valve releases allowing the flow to resume. Once the flow restarts, the detergent mixture is allowed to overflow out the top ports into the wash tub. It's not something I feel I would use all the time, but since it says "SpotScrubber" prominantly on the machine face, I thought it odd not to have the feature working. The SpotScrubber is also featured on the cover of the GE appliance brochure I had as a top of the line model, so I thought it would be something to preserve since it's not as common as an everyday Filter Flo's we typically see. |
Post# 647931 , Reply# 249   12/20/2012 at 14:18 (4,151 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 647936 , Reply# 251   12/20/2012 at 14:36 (4,151 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 650313 , Reply# 256   1/1/2013 at 00:53 (4,139 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 650314 , Reply# 257   1/1/2013 at 00:55 (4,139 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 650316 , Reply# 258   1/1/2013 at 00:59 (4,139 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 650317 , Reply# 259   1/1/2013 at 01:01 (4,139 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 652416 , Reply# 260   1/11/2013 at 06:49 (4,129 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 654381 , Reply# 261   1/18/2013 at 23:33 (4,121 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 655457 , Reply# 262   1/23/2013 at 21:28 (4,116 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 655460 , Reply# 263   1/23/2013 at 21:47 (4,116 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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The washer had been delivered with the creased control panel trim cap. The gentleman who delivered it thought he was doing me a favor by strapping the washer down by running a cable over the top of it down to the pallet it was riding on. All it did was put this crease in it. It was pretty hard to find a new one to replace it, and when I did it was pretty expensive to boot.
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Post# 655461 , Reply# 264   1/23/2013 at 21:50 (4,116 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 655462 , Reply# 265   1/23/2013 at 21:56 (4,116 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Like nails dragging on a chalk board, this bothered me to no end. Chinese water torture would have been preferable to staring at this every time I did a load!
I did save the old piece just in case I found another washer that might have had a piece in worse or missing condition. Luckily the front of it was still in decent condition. |
Post# 655463 , Reply# 266   1/23/2013 at 21:57 (4,116 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 657851 , Reply# 267   2/3/2013 at 13:02 (4,106 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 660422 , Reply# 268   2/15/2013 at 01:57 (4,094 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)   |   | |
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Post# 1158963 , Reply# 269   9/7/2022 at 04:54 (603 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Is it just me or are some of the pics showing up sideways or upside down? Is there anyone who can fix this? ;)
I personally would not modify this washer, it is in pristine condition and you are super lucky to have found it this way. I would enjoy the washer as is, unaltered. This specific model triggers strong feelings of anemoia for myself. I once lived in a condo that had it been built 1 year earlier it would have had this exact same model. But instead I had to endure the cruel joke which took their place, only to feel betrayed when I discovered the stark difference in older units enjoyed by individuals who seemed unaware of just how good they really had it. I wish FF washers had continued to be make these into the mid-2000s. It would have been well deserved for everyone involved. |
Post# 1159246 , Reply# 270   9/10/2022 at 19:45 (599 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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GE needs to bring back the filter-flos. |
Post# 1159357 , Reply# 271   9/11/2022 at 23:24 (598 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1159791 , Reply# 272   9/18/2022 at 08:24 (592 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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A K-Mart bought one with the lid opening to the left which my grandma had for a many years was pretty much the only Filter-Flo in my immediate family--separate speeds, as in Normal/Gentle for both agitation and spin, three water levels and it was a standard capacity machine, and boasted Hot/Warm, Warm/Cold, and Cold/Cold temperature settings...
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Post# 1159836 , Reply# 273   9/18/2022 at 14:33 (592 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I remember these washers. I had one which could clean anything. It was the one with the ramped activator and minibasket. I will forever miss that machine. |
Post# 1160700 , Reply# 274   9/30/2022 at 07:40 (580 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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No, just remembered my one long-overdue visit to an uncle's house back in 1996, boasted a filter-fly washer there, from the '80's I'd guess, with an Amana electric dryer from that era I'd visited, replacing its burnt out companion...
Not sure if it would have had the mini-basket but it was fairly near-top of the line, so most-likely, but if not noticeably present, then never to seldom used...
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Post# 1160726 , Reply# 275   9/30/2022 at 17:12 (580 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)   |   | |
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It's not unusual for mini-basket tubs, filter-flo pans, and the fabric softener dispensers to become separated or lost from GE washers over time, especially if the party didn't use them. Back in the day, I was only concerned about the filter pans and had to buy a few pans because the old ones were either missing or clogged (and I didn't realize back then they could be cleaned). I never bought fabric softener dispensers or mini-tubs and if I found a washer with those it was a pleasant surprise. |