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Thread Number: 43446
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Post# 638844 11/13/2012 at 19:15 (4,181 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 638890 , Reply# 1 11/13/2012 at 20:56 (4,181 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts) |
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Post# 638976 , Reply# 3 11/14/2012 at 05:56 (4,181 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Consumer Reports: Asko model 6532XXL ($1300) lands in the bottom third of the ratings. Washing score is only "Good" despite a 70-minute normal cycle. Vibration score is only "Fair". Total score is 63, compared to 84-88 for top-scoring models from Samsung, LG, Kenmore, and Frigidaire.
I'm guessing the XXL designation in the model number means it is a large capacity machine aimed at the American market, not a washer that will fit under the kitchen counter. | ||
| Post# 638982 , Reply# 4 11/14/2012 at 06:40 (4,181 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
From past research...
The XXL machines are OEM by asko from a different manufacturer in China somewhere.
I recall being told that Asko plans to take the XXL assembly in house but I have no further information on whether or not that has happened. A Miele dealer told me that Asko would soon pull the XXL machines from the market same as Miele did with the W48XX line. Malcolm | ||
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Post# 638998 , Reply# 5 11/14/2012 at 08:13 (4,181 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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The Chinese-made XXL machines were available here at our NE Furniture Mart. Easy enough to spot on the sales floor, they made the real Asko-built units avert their eyes and begin to inch away from their larger cousins by-marriage.
The CU ratings are interesting but, as always, do raise questions about their methods and ideology in testing. Comparing apples to apples is great, but the capacity, drum and load sizes would make "one" :-) wonder if they were indeed tested on equal footing. Water temps, etc. in a cold-fill machine could differ greatly in the tests. Maybe you could call them and speak to the testing supervisor and report back? LOL I wish! I had great washing results with the Asko I had but I'm sure the water temps I used and what CU used could be quite different! I would guess L wouldn't stoop to the XXL and is looking at the European models with boil-wash, etc. I've only had one set of Askos, from about 1999-99. I used them as a pair for a few months before giving them to a good friend nearby. Other than replace a broken shock and rewire the cut cord for the dryer, they required no other service for nearly 5 years of constant use. They were replaced with LG's when the washer heater went out, the only flaw in an otherwise working set. I personally did not like the air-flow dryer very much, too small and too loud. If I had room for only that dryer, I would come to terms with it but when I had the set here, I usually bypassed the dryer except for smaller loads. I like the washer door seal and lack of boot folds on the washer - possible because of the front door-cover and separate door panel behind the machine front. This is, IMO, superior to all other brand's large, folded rubber boots as it gives slightly better access to the drum, no water retention, cleaner, etc. and the solid rubber seal will outlast a moving part many times over. That said, proper care and use will ensure good service from any boot design, as we all know! I would imagine parts and service for the Asko will be easier to obtain, as mentioned, as the market penetration has been much wider and for a longer period than has Miele in most of the country, though in NYC it's probably a "wash" between Asko and Miele anyway. | ||
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Post# 639021 , Reply# 6 11/14/2012 at 11:03 (4,181 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Thanks All!
Was thinking of the older Asko washers that were still made in Sweden. You can find them often for a song and have good quality. IIRC Asko started going downhill when Antonio Merlinoi (sp/) Group got their mitts on the company.
Thing is Askos don't seem to be the most long lived of washers. Five to ten years seems to be about right before the motor or something else gives problems. Usually this is nothing more than the brushes (on motors so equipped) and once swapped out things should work as normal. One quirk Asko washers come with their own plug which goes into the dryer. If one wishes to use the washer alone the plug must be changed it seems to a standard American dryer 220v plug. | ||
| Post# 639041 , Reply# 7 11/14/2012 at 13:20 (4,181 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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my asko dryer is made in sweden and does have a plug on the back for matching washer-my dryer was meant for north america,so has north american style terminal board but everthing in the dryer runs on 230v unlike american dryers. | ||
| Post# 639047 , Reply# 8 11/14/2012 at 13:58 (4,181 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK) | ||
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Launderess - the current Asko units are still Swedish, I have just taken delivery of one of their modern 1800rpm units and have to say it is a superb machine.
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Post# 639051 , Reply# 9 11/14/2012 at 14:11 (4,181 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Asko, MaytagAsko
I would only rely on the Swedish built machines, those uber sized models are best left alone!!
Again, you really need to ask yourself what you are going to do about servicing and parts, given current turmoil with the "M" word machines... I would seriously start working ones charms on a local electrician / service engineer / old time schooler that would be interested as well as competent at repairing these older machines. Jon, glad its all installed, start a new thread we need a new "M" word fix asap!! My pair are 11years old now and going strong with no issues whatsoever!! I can do a 5kg, 95d wash from cold with 3 rinses and 1600rpm spin in under an hour! 
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Post# 639099 , Reply# 10 11/14/2012 at 18:34 (4,180 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Am Really Surprised At Some Of The Ratings For Asko Washers | ||
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Post# 639182 , Reply# 11 11/15/2012 at 06:48 (4,180 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Its like.... | ||
| Post# 639207 , Reply# 12 11/15/2012 at 10:21 (4,180 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
Mike | ||
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Post# 639222 , Reply# 13 11/15/2012 at 11:57 (4,180 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Lol.... | ||
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Post# 639226 , Reply# 14 11/15/2012 at 12:20 (4,180 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian) |
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Short washing time "I can do a 5kg, 95d wash from cold with 3 rinses and 1600rpm spin in under an hour!" Since when a short washing time is a benefit? | ||
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Post# 639227 , Reply# 15 11/15/2012 at 12:20 (4,180 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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One Odd Thing
Historically both Miele and Asko washers required 220v connections, but there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more of the latter in the USA than former. Am going by listings on fleaPay, CL, and other such Internet sites.
Whatever Asko did Miele should have taken a page from them, as it seems there weren't as many quibbles about installing/requiring 220v power for their (Asko's) units. | ||
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Post# 639228 , Reply# 16 11/15/2012 at 12:32 (4,180 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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"Since when a short washing time is a benefit?" | ||
| Post# 639243 , Reply# 17 11/15/2012 at 13:36 (4,180 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
donprohel | ||
| Post# 639249 , Reply# 18 11/15/2012 at 14:17 (4,180 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Does it need to be any other way?? | ||
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Post# 639385 , Reply# 20 11/16/2012 at 10:02 (4,179 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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The Askos seen in the 1980s here only extracted after every second rinse, something that I don't think is as efficient as the Miele W1918 and W1986 procedures on the Normal cycle. I don't know if they still do that. | ||
| Post# 639393 , Reply# 21 11/16/2012 at 11:39 (4,179 days old) by chrisbsuk (Bristol, uk) | ||
Asko
I've had my asko (its badged Maytag) for around 3 months now - and it is simply so much better than the Bosch it replaced.
It extracts/spins after the main wash and in between each rinse on all cycles, apart from Synthetics and Wool/Handwash, where it only spins at the end Its relatively quiet, even at 1400 RPM with a full load, and my kitchen has a suspended wooden floor, something the Bosch didn't like very much. It does seem to suffer from suds lock when it has a full load of towels in it - mainly because it drains the main wash water then starts to spin at around 800 RPM - however, what is interesting, is that if this happens, the time to end screen increases (by around 20 mins) and it keeps rinsing and rinsing until the majority of suds have gone. Wash times are reasonable too - a 50*c Synthetic cycle, for example, is done in under and hr, and a 60*C normal cycle (thats cotton on other machines) takes around 80 minutes - cycle times do vary though depending on load size 
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| Post# 639404 , Reply# 22 11/16/2012 at 13:17 (4,179 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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that washer looks like the mate to my t712c asko dryer;same control styling and color. | ||
| Post# 639468 , Reply# 23 11/16/2012 at 18:20 (4,178 days old) by Iowegian () | ||
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I guess if I were to consider a used Asko, I'd want to know about parts and service availability for older machines. Or at least the parts, since I'm usually willing to dive into a machine to see if I can fix it. | ||
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Post# 639712 , Reply# 24 11/17/2012 at 14:50 (4,178 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Quality Of Asko In The United States Seems All Over The Plac | ||
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Post# 639742 , Reply# 25 11/17/2012 at 15:49 (4,178 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Mike | ||
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Post# 641772 , Reply# 28 11/26/2012 at 13:48 (4,169 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Asko
Hi Jon , yes its the internal pic of the Maytag Askos you used when over, nothing like 4 legs for a good spin, saying that the electronics and power board on the V-Zug is one to see in action, never seen a machine that can turn the drum and hold it before dropping back on the delicate programmes!!
Have never heard about the PCB`s on this side of the ocean, but given the rest of the story with Merloni one wouldnt be surprised, I wonder if the ISE boards are specked elswhere? | ||
| Post# 641816 , Reply# 29 11/26/2012 at 16:29 (4,169 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Interseting Comments I Have just bought a Maytag, made in Sweden, and just love it. I think I have the same model as Jon. I know its only a few days old, but up to now its great. Paul 
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Post# 641978 , Reply# 30 11/27/2012 at 04:13 (4,168 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Maytag Asko | ||
| Post# 642054 , Reply# 31 11/27/2012 at 11:34 (4,168 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Maytag Washer Hi Mike. I thought I was seeing things at first. I sold my aqualtis and had a gap so decided to treat myself. Washed with it today and really impressed with the machine. Good quality machine. The machine does have stainless steel outertub. Paul | ||
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Post# 642354 , Reply# 32 11/28/2012 at 16:57 (4,167 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Long Cycle Times Asko Washing Machines
Was doing some nosing around owner's manuals for older Asko units and the wash times for "Normal/Cottons" could hit >75 minutes. However there is a method to their maddness.
Again speaking of the older units Asko washers added time to wash cycles when lower wash temperatures were chosen and or for enzyme detergents. Both under the then accepted rules that lower wash temperatures required longer cycle times to compensate, and that enzymes worked well within the "low" temperature range of about 100F to 110F with increased contact time required for the best possible results. Miele washers of the period also had something similar. My W1070's manual speaks of some system/programming that promises the same wash period regardless of temperatures chosen. Older enzyme products did indeed require such conditions but modern products have moved on. Today's detergents/laundry aids with such things will work in cold, cool, warm and even slightly hot (120F), thus eliminating the need for long contact times, IMHO. | ||
| Post# 642456 , Reply# 33 11/29/2012 at 00:43 (4,166 days old) by Iowegian () | ||
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| Post# 643263 , Reply# 34 12/1/2012 at 19:38 (4,163 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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