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Ironers and Irons
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Post# 649530   12/28/2012 at 12:28 (4,139 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        

This is a Model 95 that I use a good bit. I did not want to have to open the lid each time and roll the unit away from the wall. I mounted the lid above the ironer on the wall.I also placed a light in the lid. Crappy pic, sorry, crappy phone camera.




Post# 649532 , Reply# 1   12/28/2012 at 12:35 (4,139 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        
GE Flatplate Ironer

This is a flat plate ironer and I will get some pics of the unit soon. It is cool whereby it has the forming board and iron are both flat.

You depress a switch with your foot and they both come together creating a press. Looks much like the large press at a cleaners. Thought the GE moniker on this unit is nice.

The two Rowenta Steam Generators are sitting on top of this and I used to use the one on the right as my daily iron (I am lazy and at times will iron as needed, daily). It took forever for the thing to generate steam for just one shirt. Hence the post above for the vintage GE Iron.


Post# 649552 , Reply# 2   12/28/2012 at 14:37 (4,139 days old) by foxchapel ()        
It took forever for the thing to generate steam for just one

I know what you mean, and then it takes forever to cool down for emptying the tank. I own that same exact Rowenta steam generator iron and don't use it often, unless I have a mountain of ironing. The sole plate does not get very hot, but the steam output is awesome.

For most of my ironing, I use a Black & Decker D2030 steam iron that heats up quickly and does an excellent job. This B&D is the first non-Rowenta steam iron I have owned in decades and it's a keeper.


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Post# 649556 , Reply# 3   12/28/2012 at 14:48 (4,139 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        

foxchapel, You are right, unless I have a bunch of ironing the Rowenta on the left takes too long to generate steam. You are also right that it does produce a good amount of steam.

The iron that is on the left was great, it was a steam generator with the steam being more quickly generated in a smaller chamber..it was quick. But for some reason the trigger is messed up.


Post# 649610 , Reply# 4   12/28/2012 at 17:57 (4,139 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        
GE Flatplate Ironer

As mentioned above:

Post# 649611 , Reply# 5   12/28/2012 at 18:00 (4,139 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        
GE Flatplate Ironer - Another view

Heat Control:

Post# 649612 , Reply# 6   12/28/2012 at 18:02 (4,139 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        
GE Flatplate Ironer - Completed ironing arms

GE:these arms must be extended before the press (shoe) will lift from the forming board.

Post# 649613 , Reply# 7   12/28/2012 at 18:04 (4,139 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        
GE Flatplate Ironer - Another view open

GE:

Post# 649615 , Reply# 8   12/28/2012 at 18:08 (4,139 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        
GE Flatplate Ironer - Toe Control for Press

There is a very small bar that is depressed when once you have formed the item to be pressed on the forming board.

Once activated, it moves the shoe and the forming board towards each other and creates a tremendous amount of pressure. Frankly, I have not mastered this with anything other than napkins and true flat work. A shirt is just not easy with this machine.



Post# 649622 , Reply# 9   12/28/2012 at 18:29 (4,139 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Steam Generator Irons And "Hot" Soleplates

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In theory traditional irons require higher heating at soleplates in order to generate steam. This is one of the reasons many vintage and some modern irons will only produce vapor within a limited temperature range.

Steam generator irons OTHO because the vapor is produced in a separate boiler have irons that can run with slightly cooler soleplates. The main function of the heat delivered from such irons is to dry the ironed surface by evaporating the vapor. If used in a commercial setting such ironing systems are often mated to vacuum and or heated ironing boards removing more need for a "hot" iron.

Have a commercial steam boiler ironing system and haul it out when one has tons of ironing to get done. Yes, it takes awhile for a full tank to heat but once it's ready can go hours before having to fill it up again.

Flat Presses:

Trick to using flat presses for clothing including shirts is to master the routine of "lays", that is the sequential placement of different areas of a garment onto the buck.

Domestic flat press ironers suffer from the fact by nature the size of their bucks are smaller, thus large items must be repositioned more often. A commercial press can be sized for large flatwork, but even most smaller units will handle shirts, trousers, coats etc with a minimal of movement.

My ElnaPress comes with a good owner's manual that lays out how to place things and it works pretty well.

One thing about all press irons is they often do not work well where what has to be ironed requires pulling/stretching into shape such as seams and collars on certain shirts. Ditto for cuffs and such with lots of fabric that normally is pushed to the sides as one irons. If you examine the undersides of shirt collars and cuffs that come back from dry cleaners/commercial laundries often this fabric is pressed into a mess of wrinkles.


Post# 649648 , Reply# 10   12/28/2012 at 20:17 (4,139 days old) by foxchapel ()        
The ElnaPress...

I love mine for some tasks, but after one go at a man's dress shirt, I leave it to the professional laundry. I don't have the patience to master the positioning. Takes forever to heat up, too.

On the other hand, for fusing interfacing and pressing dinner napkins (especially linen) & tea towels, it is wonderful.


Post# 649652 , Reply# 11   12/28/2012 at 20:27 (4,139 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Have Two Ironer Presses

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A vintage Hurley "Press Ironer" and the ElnaPress.

Of the two the larger and higher heating powered Hurley press is used the most. Cannot tell you the last time one dragged out the Elna, it is just too small for most things and does not get hot enough to do linen properly. Indeed there isn't even a temperature setting for that fabric on it's dial.


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Post# 649685 , Reply# 12   12/28/2012 at 22:25 (4,139 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        

I have the manual for this GE unit and for the life of me I just do not get it. It is a nice size unit and I love the mechanical action of the press. I have one that is older that this unit and you press a button on the shoe itself and the motor lifts the shoe and the forming board together.

I have most everything down to a science on the Ironrite, even a shirt. I still think a hand iron on a board is the way to go for a shirt. I have seen Laundress advise a large ironing table or board as well and I have to agree. The mangle ironers are cool for many things but I get a better result with an iron.

I have the manuals from the 1930s to the 1960s for Ironrite. Vastly different each decade.


Post# 649694 , Reply# 13   12/28/2012 at 23:42 (4,139 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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When domestic ironers were first being introduced housekeeping manuals advised housewives to obtain the largest size to suit the household ironing, including flatwork without folding. If folds must be made then one was best. At that time you could get ironers with rollers/shoes nearly 45" give or take. Such a large unit would take small sheets and table cloths unfolded and larger sheets(the most common size then would have been "full/queen") and table cloths folded once.

Problem all domestic ironers have is they use a single roll, as opposed to commercial units that can and often do have multiples.

Because of the single roll the single pass must smooth and dry the items. If they are too moist things must be sent back and perhaps repeated. It takes a very fine balance to know the proper level of moisture required for each type of textile versus chances of scorching.

Also because of single rolls the thing must turn slower to ensure proper results. Many vintage and modern ironers do have speed controls, but the Ironrite doesn't neither did a few others.

Unless one is willing to iron large items folded and thus creating creases (and often cat whiskers) I find a large ironing table and several hot irons faster and give better results. OTOH if all you care about is having ironed items and not bothered by creases and lines then the ironer wins.

Shirts can be done on an ironer but it is best if they are of the flat/nearly square variety. Shirts with lots of gathers, pleats and so forth especially at the back are a pain. Have recently begun to teach myself how to iron shirts flat on an ironing table the way laundresses did for ages, and most "hand" shirt laundries do today sitll. Tip, if your shirt comes back with creases across the shoulders and down the sides, it was ironed flat.


Post# 649738 , Reply# 14   12/29/2012 at 09:25 (4,138 days old) by MIkeKLondon (London)        
Ironing Shirts

I am good with the roller I have a Steam Phaff, but I tried many times to master a flat bed press with little luck, One thing I hate ironing is shirts and end up sending them out we have a Laura Star with vacuum bed and even thats to much work. I remember seeing something some time ago about a domestic shirt ironing machine has anyone ever seen or better still used one?

Post# 649837 , Reply# 15   12/29/2012 at 21:29 (4,138 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
If You Mean Those Domestic Versions of Dry Cleaner Shirt 

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Yes, have seen them in Europe by the likes of Miele and Siemens, but they are not imported to the USA IIRC.

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Post# 649838 , Reply# 16   12/29/2012 at 21:32 (4,138 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
IMHO The Best Ironing Board For Shirts

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Was the vintage Proctor "flip" boards.

Built as along and wide rectangle one end flipped down to make a point, but otherwise you left the corner square. This allows for faster ironing of shirt backs and front as a wider surface area can be done at one time without having to shift.

Cannot imagine why no one has brought this idea back.

Well there is this:


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Post# 649841 , Reply# 17   12/29/2012 at 22:10 (4,138 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        

Yep, I use the flat end of an ironing board for shirts too. This modified board looks like a scaled down version of the ironing table you mention frequently.

Post# 649990 , Reply# 18   12/30/2012 at 17:59 (4,137 days old) by foxchapel ()        

Launderess - I have an early DIY knock-off version of the Marsha's Big Board, and use it for ~all~ ironing tasks in the sewing room, including garment construction. There are lots of DIY tutorials on the 'net these days.

Your linked board looks like one end is slightly rounded, to accommodate the shoulder slope of the shirt, which is brilliant. I wouldn't recommend particle board, though that site does. Formaldehyde out-gassing issues aside, at some point, it will most likely absorb steam and things go downhill from there. Mine is made with a good quality solid wood shelving of something like beech or birch (not pine).


Post# 650122 , Reply# 19   12/31/2012 at 04:22 (4,137 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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In honour of this thread hauled out my Hurley Ironer-Press this weekend for getting up the weeks laundered linens.

While a bit longer than using the Pfaff ironer it was actually faster and gave better results for the larger items (sheets, duvet covers). Not having to worry about cat whiskers/creases made the larger flat work items a snap to press. Also because this thing exerts more pressure than ironers things could be folded into fours and still pressed wonderfully. What one did is press both sides of a sheets folded into four and when folding noticed all layers where pressed properly.

Fitted sheets are much easier on the press as one does not have to worry about moving things about to accomodate the elastic and corners.


Post# 650125 , Reply# 20   12/31/2012 at 04:44 (4,137 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
Yes

I have heard that the B&D Digital Advantage Iron is a very good iron.  There's a sewing blog I follow and the blog master is on his second B&D DAI.  That's how well it performs.  He commented on it.


Post# 650126 , Reply# 21   12/31/2012 at 04:49 (4,137 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        

It's unusual I guess, but growing up I never knew anyone to have an ironer.  I have been interested in vintage appliances and household products, cars, lawnmowers since a very early age and can tell you what everyone had.  Please someone comment on this.  I bet the person owning an ironer sent very little to laundry!!!  Just the things that had to be dry cleaned.  That's probably it.  Also, a person that used a lot of table linens.  It would have been more cost effective to own an ironer that pay those laundry bills.  Our ironing set-up was this:  My mother ironed.  She paid someone to iron for her.  My sister ironed and as soon as Mom  was convinced I wouldn't burn the house down,  Andy ironed.  I loved it.  I would iron everything in sight.  Sucker!!  LOLLL.  The big stuff went to the laundry.  The sheets, big tabled cloths and my dad's shirts.  Even so, there was still a mountain of clothes to iron.   




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Post# 650156 , Reply# 22   12/31/2012 at 08:21 (4,137 days old) by foxchapel ()        
There's a sewing blog I follow and the blog master is on

Would that be MPB blog? ;-)

Post# 650158 , Reply# 23   12/31/2012 at 09:09 (4,137 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        

Andy, you are right the did reduce the number of garments that were sent out to the laundry. I am assuming since you are in SC that you might have grown up in the south. Ironers were not as common here as they were in northern regions. In fact the ones that I have acquired over the years have all been north of the Mason-Dixon line.

It takes some practice to operate a rotary ironer but it is interesting and can be fun for a while. I can do a shirt quickly on one, but as mentioned above, there is a delicate balance on moisture within the garment and how well it irons on an ironer.


Post# 650165 , Reply# 24   12/31/2012 at 10:23 (4,136 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
foxchapel,

That would be correct!  :)


Post# 650167 , Reply# 25   12/31/2012 at 10:24 (4,136 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
Yes.

I'm home grown!


Post# 650169 , Reply# 26   12/31/2012 at 10:38 (4,136 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
Michael, This is your thread and I apologize....

I want to make one brief comment to foxchapel since there's no other way contact this person.  foxchapel, you know MPB has only been sewing since 2009!?!  I'm speechless!  He does such good work.  I still have trouble lining a garment and his looks to be perfect.  Ok, Michael.  That all I wanted say to fc.  Thank you.       


Post# 650207 , Reply# 27   12/31/2012 at 13:37 (4,136 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Interesting About Ironers

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As the South is known as the land of *Starch*! *LOL*

From what one understands historically almost everything that breathed was starched and ironed in the South up to and including blue jeans. Give the often hot and humid climate one can understand why as starched laundry does have more body and will resist going limp longer, but still.

Cannot imagine sitting in front of a hot ironer much less standing over a hot ironing board during the warmer months in the South, especially in the days before AC.


Post# 650211 , Reply# 28   12/31/2012 at 13:55 (4,136 days old) by michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL)        

Yep, you are correct Laundress about the "land of starch". If you read or saw "The Help" you understand why ironers were not as plentiful here than other regions. I remember the lady that worked for my mom up until she passed in the 1990s telling me before I went to college...." before you leave this house, you will know how to fry chicken, make green beans and iron a shirt, you hear me?".....well may she rest in peace I think am proficient at all three.

Of course the heat and humidity that you mention were another reason that many homes, early on had a "Summer Kitchen" a detached kitchen to keep heat (and fire) away from the home itself.


Post# 650214 , Reply# 29   12/31/2012 at 14:09 (4,136 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
The Help

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Yes, saw the film and was going to go there but didn't want to be dragged into another fight about "sterotypes" and the South.

Summer kitchens not only kept the heat out of southern nomes but the smells associated with cooking as well.

Unlike colder climates the homes in the south didn't require the heat from large ranges to heat kitchens (and by extension often parts of the entire first floor), for most of the year either


Post# 650226 , Reply# 30   12/31/2012 at 15:49 (4,136 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        

I haven't fried chicken in a while, but I will be frying pork chops noon day tomorrow to go along with the collards and crowder peas.  It's supposed to be black eyed peas, but I don't like black eyed peas (tha part about me is not Southern) then crowder peas it is.  I might fix rice and gravy.  Let's just pack on the pounds.  Oh and through in a drink or two.  Lolll. 


Post# 650370 , Reply# 31   1/1/2013 at 10:43 (4,135 days old) by foxchapel ()        
OT reply to retromania

(My apologies to Michael)

Yes, I know, and I continue to be impressed. Peter is not impeded by the 'paralysis of perfectionism' syndrome that I suffer. LOL

Now, back to the topic on hand ...


Post# 650378 , Reply# 32   1/1/2013 at 11:21 (4,135 days old) by dynaflow (rockingham nc)        
wet cold and rainy

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New yrs day wet cold dreary, nothing better to do than iron and watch bewitched marathon plus since my furnace has bit the dust it helps to warm me up using a old Ge or Sunbeam heavy iron and spray startch what better way to pass time
Happy new yrs to all
RDJ



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