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Thread Number: 44349
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| Post# 651695 , Reply# 2 1/7/2013 at 17:54 (4,126 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Wash Dog ;'D ~ Aren't we all! | ||
| Post# 651702 , Reply# 3 1/7/2013 at 18:08 (4,126 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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This is the actuality. THE machine! 
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Post# 651755 , Reply# 4 1/7/2013 at 21:47 (4,126 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Very Well Done Indeed!
Pump problems: Happens to us all myself included. Our nearly mint Hoover TT arrived with a bad pump so got a new one and swapped it out. For what it is worth the pump seems to be the weak link in Hoover TT washers. Sooner or later they will start to leak. They are also prone to jamming up with hard water minerals, powder detergent residue and other muck. Thing is once used these machines should be run every now and then and not just laid up stored away. Otherwise the aftermentioned gunk dries and clogs up the pump.
Inlet Hose. Again these often go. Don't know what material Hoover used for some but it isn't long lasting. You can peep around YouTube for Hoover vids to see how others have gotten around this problem since finding new is a challenge. Have you had the back off to see if the motor is at least engaged when switched to "wash"? It may just be a lose or slipped belt or bit out of place. | ||
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Post# 651756 , Reply# 5 1/7/2013 at 21:54 (4,126 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Another Poster With HooverMatic Motor Woes | ||
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Post# 651758 , Reply# 6 1/7/2013 at 22:01 (4,126 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Oh, And If You Haven't Already Been | ||
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Post# 651761 , Reply# 7 1/7/2013 at 22:16 (4,126 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Will it fit in the overhead bin? | ||
| Post# 651773 , Reply# 8 1/7/2013 at 23:52 (4,126 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Thank You for the pic, Wight Wabbit ;'D | ||
| Post# 651783 , Reply# 9 1/8/2013 at 01:26 (4,126 days old) by fido () | ||
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You need to take it apart a bit before you order any spares. Twin tubs do tend to stretch their belts so they are the first thing to check. Next, see if the pump will turn by hand. If it won't you should strip it down and clean out any soap residue. | ||
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Post# 651789 , Reply# 10 1/8/2013 at 03:23 (4,126 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Don't be scared to ask obvious and stupid questions 
None of us bite " Hard " :)
I think most of us at some point have been in a situation where we needed a little advice and lets face it where better to start than this little corner of the net where there are plenty of people with more knowledge than Mr Babidge...! My own little " washdog " has poorly internal organs at present I must attempt a repair soon. Austin 
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Post# 651793 , Reply# 11 1/8/2013 at 04:44 (4,126 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hoovermatic Washdog
Congratulations on your washer find and Welcome To The Club, their is a wealth of information and experience here, please ask away, after all it is how we all became knowledgable, the Hoovermatics are very simple machines to work on when you have the chance to take the back off and study it, a very mechanical machine with the exception of the auto-rinse and even that doesnt appear to go wrong often IMHO.
The pump is the weakest link but care and attention over the years will get you through, hoses are still just about available so buy two when ordering, better to have spares!! Steve was it you asking about the repair pages for this model?? I have asked a man who has them, I have just moved and every other Hoover manual I can find (including fan heaters) but the two washer manuals, I left them in staffs on our last visit so have asked john to scan his and post - OR if anyone else has them then please post ASAP. Enjoy the restore, Mike | ||
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Post# 651794 , Reply# 12 1/8/2013 at 04:49 (4,126 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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"poorly internal organs"
Whats the issue Austin??
Mickey, yes those stainless gleaming tubs are rather special, but its nice to see a bit of colour as well, remember all those in Tom Andersons at the Hoover 100th?? Greg, much enjoyed taking yours for a test drive, do you still have the "Yellow Peril"? or has Fred bagged it yet? | ||
| Post# 651813 , Reply# 13 1/8/2013 at 06:34 (4,126 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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I have some other historic appliances too as well as this twintub: Hoover Constellation vaccuum cleaner Hoover Dustette vaccuum cleaner Russell Hobbs K2S kettle Hoover Toaster Hoover Steam Iron Smiths Sectric Electric wall clock Goblin Teasmade | ||
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Post# 651823 , Reply# 14 1/8/2013 at 08:27 (4,126 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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" My poorly internals " Are.... | ||
| Post# 651827 , Reply# 15 1/8/2013 at 09:17 (4,126 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
Hi Mike
Yes it was me. I was after information about lubricating bearings etc but I have since found a WD40 product which seems quite good - White lithium grease. Couldn't see any reason why not to use it so put some on my T5090 as the spin can used to stick between uses and its worked a treat so far. I would still appreciate the literature if you can get it though. Any tips on getting a re-spray would also be welcome - where to take it, how far to strip down etc. Gosh have you had to move all your machines as well then - I bet that was a challenge if you did. I did send you an email about a frigidaire spin dryer but I guess if you were moving you might not have caught up. Austin - where abouts is the pump leaking? It sounds like you need new rubber cups to stop the water leaking into the spinner. Cheers Stephen | ||
| Post# 651829 , Reply# 16 1/8/2013 at 09:27 (4,126 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Brothers... I have an update for you. The motor on this is fine. The issue is a broken timer knob. It wont turn the timer. The timer shaft was turned with a pair of pliers and the wash side worked.it still does not pump out though | ||
| Post# 651834 , Reply# 17 1/8/2013 at 10:09 (4,126 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Hey that's good news on the motor - I don't suppose its the same knob that the insert is coming off though is it?
The best thing with the pump is to disconnect the 3 hoses and remove the link to the control knob. Remove the 3 screws at the bottom holding it to the machine. You will then see a big wire clip that goes from the bottom across the top and back to the bottom. Release this from the top and the pump will pull in two. Inside the top part you will see 2 rubber cups that move from one side to the other to divert the water. they are fitted to a spring mechanism. If all looks ok there, remove the 3 green clips from the bottom of the pump which gives you access to the impeller. You can then check that it is all clean and connected correctly. To reassemble do everything in reverse but make sure the O ring seals are in place properly between the sections. hopefully that will do the trick. Take some pics while you are at it in case you get stuck. Cheers Stephen | ||
| Post# 651851 , Reply# 19 1/8/2013 at 12:24 (4,125 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Knobs
The knobs are held on from underneath with a spring clip which you need to remove along with the linking rods to the controls. I wouldn't recommend taking the timer control apart to lubricate unless you really want too. You might find that after a good clean up the knobs may move more easily as it could be a build up of suds and scale that's made them stiff.
I had a quick look to see if there were any fill hoses available from where I got mine but no luck I'm afraid. You could buy 2 drain hoses and cut the end off one that goes into the sink and push the tap connector onto it. Sounds like you are getting there. Pop some photos up when you get the chance so we can take a closer look. Cheers Stephen | ||
| Post# 651855 , Reply# 21 1/8/2013 at 12:36 (4,125 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 651857 , Reply# 22 1/8/2013 at 12:43 (4,125 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Nice how about this. It says it is for a 3314L CLICK HERE TO GO TO wight_rabbit's LINK | ||
| Post# 651858 , Reply# 23 1/8/2013 at 12:57 (4,125 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Post# 651879 , Reply# 25 1/8/2013 at 16:15 (4,125 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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How it works | ||
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Post# 651881 , Reply# 26 1/8/2013 at 16:50 (4,125 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Tanglematic.... | ||
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Post# 651896 , Reply# 29 1/8/2013 at 17:55 (4,125 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Tangles
According to my service manual copy one of the reasons given for tangles is prolonged wash times. Goes furhter to say wash time should not exceed the max time alloted on dial.
What one does for badly stained/soiled loads is to run a wash, then allow things to soak for a half hour or so. Once that is done either drain and rewash or start up the washer for a short while and then start with the spinning/rinsing process. | ||
| Post# 652058 , Reply# 31 1/9/2013 at 13:57 (4,124 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Like your thinking
Hi Mathew
Washing bedding or shirts is a particular nightmare for tangling!! I guess the other problem with reversing the direction of the pulsator though is the shape of the wash tub so you could end up with laundry congestion at the bottom of the tub when it reverses lol!! I think the lack of a lint filter is the main drawback of the Hoovermatic as everything that attracts fluff acts as the filter. The Hotpoint filter flows had the advantage here. I guess with the newer models you could fit a mechanical pump to the wash motor on the side where you would connect in the mechanical timer on the older models and adapt the tub drain pipe. The biggest issue would be returning the water to the tub as not sure where you would do this. I really like your idea of slow rotation of the spinner too - brilliant. You should jot them down so some of us could try them out :) Just a quick question for you though - I've been using the WD40 White Lithium grease but is this ok or should I be using something else for lubricating the bearings. I'm worried about grease getting onto the washing. Cheers Steve | ||
| Post# 652076 , Reply# 33 1/9/2013 at 17:01 (4,124 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Here is another of my Hoover Appliances that the WashDog will join 
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| Post# 652077 , Reply# 34 1/9/2013 at 17:01 (4,124 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Bet you are excited. You will have lots of fun with it when you get it sorted out. lots of photos please. Fingers crossed for the fill hose - sounds promising. If you go back to the spare parts place could you do me a cheeky favour and ask if they have 4 wheels for the 3314L as I need to buy some as they are missing from my machine and if they have replacement plastic clips for the top of the spin dryer then I could do with those too as haven't been able to find them anywhere. Wish I knew the parts number!!
I'm sure I have an original spare knob if you get stuck | ||
| Post# 652080 , Reply# 36 1/9/2013 at 17:13 (4,124 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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You could offer to take them off them - they might be glad for the space and I bet they haven't sold any in years. I reckon shops like this up and down the UK chucked loads of stuff out as they have been sadly closing. You are really lucky to still have some. I'll have to pop over on the hovercraft sometime before you snaffle them all up lol
Yep you will be able to take the pulley off the old pump. Love the constellation too - very smart and in excellent condition. | ||
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Post# 652082 , Reply# 38 1/9/2013 at 17:18 (4,124 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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I actually wondered if she would take a bulk price to get ri | ||
| Post# 652087 , Reply# 40 1/9/2013 at 17:28 (4,124 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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eBay
Good point Austin and talking of it there is a Hoovermatic pump on there for £20 and no bids. Perhaps these places could survive a little longer with the extra income. There was a great Hoover repair shop in Southsea and my ex's mum always used them to repair her ancient Hoover washing machine with a 600 spin. I'm sure she kept it going but it's closed now as most people chuck their machines now and the new ones are not so easy to repair - sad really
Whilst washing machines are my main obsession I also quite like Bakelite items such as my smiths selectric wall clock and Bush Radio. You'll have to post a picture of the fan heater and your dustette just so we can see | ||
| Post# 652092 , Reply# 41 1/9/2013 at 17:41 (4,124 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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I have a working 300 series bakelite telephone connected to my land line. Lovely to hear it ring! This is what it looks like. This is not mine but I can do a photo of it later. I also have a sectric electric wall clock. Goblin Teasmade also. 
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| Post# 652103 , Reply# 42 1/9/2013 at 18:06 (4,124 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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OK So here are some photos of my old things! First off The Hoover Dustette Hand Held Vaccuum Cleaner! 
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| Post# 652106 , Reply# 43 1/9/2013 at 18:18 (4,124 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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My Current kitchen work horse! The Russell Hobbs K2S Stainless Steel Electric Kettle. Original Element. Tea or Coffee Anyone? Notice also the black tin containing the tea bags! 
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| Post# 652107 , Reply# 44 1/9/2013 at 18:22 (4,124 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Goblin DC25 Teasmade 
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| Post# 652498 , Reply# 46 1/11/2013 at 17:12 (4,122 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Hey
That's the one. They lived in Margate road round the corner. I never went in it but used to love looking through the window too. Aww it makes me feel sad and the signs look great - just look at the phone number!! I think it was like that for some time unfortunately.
Spooky but I used to do the same when I was a student at Leeds poly in 1989 but I never took any photos of the shops though ;)) I seem to remember a good shop in the indoor market or was it the Merrion Centre or both - I can't remember now too long ago and I was a closeted appliance fan in those days lol!! I also remember the YEB oh happy days......... | ||
| Post# 652861 , Reply# 47 1/13/2013 at 04:28 (4,121 days old) by badgerdx () | ||
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Wight Rabbit, you have my Holy Grail Teasmade. I've coveted that model ever since I saw it on "Stephen Fry's 100 Favourite Gadgets" Having watched that video on using the twin tub, I now totally need one for my knitwear business. | ||
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Post# 652900 , Reply# 48 1/13/2013 at 07:39 (4,121 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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!" I now totally need one for my knitwear business."
Bob, whatever for? to unravel jumpers..?, the Hoovers have a very vigorous wash action hence the four minute wash for cottons, lighter fabrics one to two mins, I can see woollens or knitwear would be best soaked in the washtub and a hand wash in the tub, which is great because the tub is deep, and then you do have the spinner extractor to hand...
Mathew, Oh memories of those signs, one on every high street, ours was Eric Critchleys Hoover Centre, when you think I wonder if Hoover specified shops with a frontage because all the ones I saw where similar, Centre Door set back with window displays either side...Perhaps we should start a thread of appliance shop fronts!! Lovely set of appliances there IOW, classics in their own right, I like the cord on the Goblin teasmade, mine needs replacing and was looking to see what was available other than black & yellow iron cable. Here`s that ever faithful WashDog add... 
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| Post# 653062 , Reply# 50 1/13/2013 at 15:01 (4,120 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Front of Appliance I have renewed the mains plug. The old one was dirty and the three core wires were insulated by black tape near the end. I cut this off and did a proper job. 
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| Post# 653070 , Reply# 51 1/13/2013 at 15:07 (4,120 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Rear of Machine. Paintwork seems in good order commensurate with age. 
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| Post# 653074 , Reply# 52 1/13/2013 at 15:10 (4,120 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Spin Dryer. The Fill/Rinse arm has been removed to inspect if the fill hose tube is present as discussed in another thread. Thankfully it seems all in order? There is a metal tube showing! 
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| Post# 653077 , Reply# 53 1/13/2013 at 15:12 (4,120 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Wash Tub Interior 
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| Post# 653078 , Reply# 54 1/13/2013 at 15:14 (4,120 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Wash Tub flywheel, belt and motor. 
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| Post# 653081 , Reply# 55 1/13/2013 at 15:16 (4,120 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Wash Tub Pulsator 
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| Post# 653085 , Reply# 57 1/13/2013 at 15:24 (4,120 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
Hoovermatic Deluxe | ||
| Post# 653093 , Reply# 59 1/13/2013 at 15:44 (4,120 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Hoovermatic Deluxe | ||
| Post# 653306 , Reply# 60 1/14/2013 at 15:12 (4,119 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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Nice Spin Dryer There! | ||
| Post# 653559 , Reply# 63 1/15/2013 at 16:25 (4,118 days old) by wight_rabbit () | ||
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This bit I mean 
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