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Thread Number: 44383
Where to find a vintage 24" gas wall oven ? |
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| Post# 652146 1/9/2013 at 21:25 (4,124 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie ) | ||
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| Post# 652154 , Reply# 1 1/9/2013 at 23:03 (4,124 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Start at the usual places, like your nearest Habitat ReStore, and Craigslist, and just keep trying and your eyes open, I guess. Good luck, and I mean that 1000% Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
Post# 652155 , Reply# 2 1/9/2013 at 23:12 (4,124 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Looking For a Great 24" Wall Oven | ||
| Post# 652196 , Reply# 4 1/10/2013 at 07:04 (4,124 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
Kenmore! | ||
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Post# 652200 , Reply# 5 1/10/2013 at 07:33 (4,124 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Looking For a Great 24" Wall Oven Yes I forgot to mention Thermador Thanks Tom, they offered a great Self-Cleaning 24" oven from about 1966 on into the early 1990s, the neat thing about these TD SC Os was that they had a built in exhaust blower and you vented them out of the house like a clothes dryer so there was almost no hot smokey smell when baking or broiling or cleaning.
They were built in a era when people actually cooked everyday, cooking appliances today have really taken a turn for the worst as many great features are no longer offered such as, automatically temperature controlled top burners on gas and electric ranges, no rotisseries in ovens, ovens have gotten too large today and take too long to preheat and use much more energy, they also do not do as good a job on self-cleaning as they once did.
Sears wall ovens were mostly built by Roper in the 1960s and into the 1980s, Sears cooking appliances were so-so, generally Sears cooking appliances along with their D&M built DWs were weak lines and few few serious appliance shoppers ever bought either. | ||
| Post# 652245 , Reply# 6 1/10/2013 at 12:28 (4,124 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
We just happen...
to have a 1956 Chambers 24" electric oven "Cooks With the Electricity Turned Off" (better and more even baking than gas, we've had 2 Chambers gas ranges as well, and we still have 2 Chambers gas cooktops, a 27" and 42")in Copper finish (not Coppertone paint). It has the exact same insulation and construction as the gas oven models, but more even and consistent heat. We got it for our summer cottage kitchen, but kitchen design plans have changed, and we may not be needing it now.
Here's the truly ammazing thing: it is NOS, never been used! Still has the wrapping paper on the racks and drip pan inside, it is a real museum, piece. We have the manual for it as well. It was bought by some wealthy folks on a lake in Indiana near Chicago and stored in their basement for a kitchen remodel that never happened. We picked it up on the way to Denver several years ago. We're from Baltimore, so get down regularly. If of interest let me know and we can talk. | ||
| Post# 652305 , Reply# 7 1/10/2013 at 17:59 (4,124 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago) | ||
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My aunt has a 24" Kitchen-Aid, built by Chambers range from 1990+/- which replaced an older gas wall oven and she loves it, so that might be something to look for. Or import something from the UK/Europe. | ||
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Post# 652587 , Reply# 8 1/12/2013 at 07:10 (4,122 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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 I'm certain this isn't "vintage", but maybe something like this? (no photo)
lawrence CLICK HERE TO GO TO pulltostart's LINK on Atlanta Craigslist | ||
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Post# 654552 , Reply# 9 1/19/2013 at 18:18 (4,115 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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Post# 654555 , Reply# 10 1/19/2013 at 18:50 (4,115 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose) |
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1988 Roper B945
Electric.
Sears sold one just like it with the Kenmore name. Mine still "mostly" works - the digital clock/timer/control center display goes on and off and I have to bang on the side of the control panel to make it come back on. The control knob for the digital settings is also "wonky" and it's VERY hard to set the time or temperature as it makes the numbers jump all over the place instead of "in order" like they should. I once looked at getting the digital control replaced (from Sears service) and they quoted a price of over $600! Also, the oven vent for the upper oven is stupidly located right under the knob for the lower oven. When cooking "steamy" things, the knob gets all wet. I take the knob off during the cleaning cycle as the heat discolors it (I've already replaced it twice now...) I looked into getting a new 24" oven a year or two ago and the choices are few - KitchenAid, GE and Maytag were the only ones that would fit without cabinet modifications. I think Sears had one "Kenmore" model which looked like the GE to me. 
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| Post# 654564 , Reply# 11 1/19/2013 at 19:32 (4,114 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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I have a 68 Caloric Ultra Ray, i might part with. | ||
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Post# 654582 , Reply# 12 1/19/2013 at 23:20 (4,114 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.) |
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here is a modern 24 inch gas wall oven with a retro feel to it. It is made by Summit Appliances....PAT COFFEY CLICK HERE TO GO TO appliguy's LINK | ||
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Post# 654620 , Reply# 13 1/20/2013 at 07:54 (4,114 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 654711 , Reply# 14 1/20/2013 at 13:14 (4,114 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.) |
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Wow Jamie your right | ||
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Post# 654761 , Reply# 15 1/20/2013 at 17:37 (4,114 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Bill, your description of your wall oven's quirks is too funny. Love the "percussive" method of making the control come back to life and your explaining about the wet knob. I am glad I did not read it at work, because I was howling and bent double with laughter. | ||
| Post# 654764 , Reply# 16 1/20/2013 at 17:43 (4,114 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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Brown Stove Is very much in business, they are the ONLY family owned stove manufacturer left in the US, in addition to the Brown stoves they also make the high end Five Star brand,They are still in an old run down looking factory in Cleveland Tennessee, I have been there and seen it! | ||
| Post# 654770 , Reply# 17 1/20/2013 at 18:00 (4,114 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie ) | ||
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considering this one | ||
| Post# 654952 , Reply# 18 1/21/2013 at 14:25 (4,113 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Chambers Steampunk oven | ||
| Post# 654955 , Reply# 19 1/21/2013 at 14:31 (4,113 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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inside NOS 1956 Chambers In-A-Wall Oven
note unscorched gold paint on the ground cast iron door seals (no silly gaskets on a Chambers!) and paper wrappers still on the pan/rack... "Cooks with the Fuel Turned Off"...the Stainless top can removed for complete in wall use, or can be mounted on top of a cabinet, sides are copper too! No-one makes an oven of this quality today - at ANY price!
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Post# 656320 , Reply# 20 1/27/2013 at 16:50 (4,107 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose) |
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Roper Oven has Died
I think today was my Roper oven's last meal.
I had to do the usual banging on the side of the control panel to get the display to show up. Then, the usual knob twiddling to get the temperature set properly. The display then promptly disappeared so I crossed my fingers hoping it WAS set for 400. When the chicken was done baking, I pressed "cancel" and heard the single beep indicating the oven was off. A few minutes later, I hear beeping coming from the oven. I pressed "cancel" again and the beeping stopped. A minute or so later, more beeping. I banged on the side of the control panel and saw F-2 on the display. It also seemed as if the oven was NOT off so I turned off the circuit breaker to the oven. It looks like the Kitchen Aid KEBC247VBL or Whirlpool RBD245PR are the best choices for replacement. I don't want manual cleaning and I don't care for "manual" knobs for controls - even for just the lower oven. A.J. Madison looks like they have good prices, free shipping, and no sales tax. Anyone bought anything from them before? | ||
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Post# 656327 , Reply# 21 1/27/2013 at 17:29 (4,107 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose) |
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NOT A.J. Madison!
After reading "YELP" reviews for A.J. Madison, I wouldn't buy anything from them.
Nothing but horror stories - poor service, delayed deliveries, damaged goods and packing materials left behind. I don't think there are any "mom and pop" appliance stores left in my area (San Jose). Lowes? Best Buy? Airline? I need the old oven taken out and the new one installed - too heavy for me to handle. ???????? | ||
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Post# 656333 , Reply# 22 1/27/2013 at 17:39 (4,107 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose) |
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OOPS! | ||
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Post# 656593 , Reply# 24 1/28/2013 at 18:52 (4,106 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose) |
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Warehouse Discount Centers
I read their reviews on YELP as well and they're all bad (for the most part).
I wouldn't risk it despite the attractive pricing. As much as I hate to buy at Sears, I guess that would be the "safest" bet since they're "local". I wouldn't have them install it - I found a local person HIGHLY rated that will do it for less (and better, no doubt). Sad but true - what ever replacement oven I buy for whatever price is NEVER going to give 25 years of service as my old Roper did. | ||
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Post# 657513 , Reply# 25 2/1/2013 at 17:34 (4,102 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose) |
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Vintage GE wall oven
As I continue to shop for a new 24" electric double oven, I came across this GE on YouTube.
It looks a lot like the 1967 Hotpoint that was in my house when I moved here in 1970. It's for sale but it comes with a house attached! CLICK HERE TO GO TO philcobendixduo's LINK | ||
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Post# 657515 , Reply# 26 2/1/2013 at 17:50 (4,102 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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Post# 657529 , Reply# 27 2/1/2013 at 19:09 (4,101 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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24" Double Electric Ovens | ||
| Post# 657554 , Reply# 28 2/1/2013 at 21:30 (4,101 days old) by moparguy (Virginia) | ||
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Or for a cool vintage oven, Caloric in 24"? | ||
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Post# 657747 , Reply# 29 2/2/2013 at 20:48 (4,100 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose) |
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Sad state of today's quality
Thanks for the comments - yes GE probably no 24" but Hotpoint - yes (since I had a 1967 model)
Vintage oven? No thanks. I NEVER want to have to clean an oven again, thank you! I went to "Pacific Sales" Thursday and saw both the KitchenAid and Whirlpool 24" electric double ovens. Both had SHOCKINGLY poor assembly quality and appearance. The Whirlpool (at $1500 list) had a lower oven gasket of VERY poor quality rubber that was not even fully attached to the oven opening. The KitchenAid (at $2400 list) had fraying ends of the door gaskets sticking out from behind a metal piece at the bottom. Both had very cheap and poor looking vents sticking out above each oven door - a high school metal shop student could have done better. Both also have a a control panel of cheap looking matte finish plastic and doors that appear very thin. It's obvious both are built on the same "chassis". I imagine Maytag is no better since it's also built by Whirlpool. Then, there are the many issues you can read about online about KitchenAid ovens being inoperable after the self-clean cycle due to the thermal fuse blowing. The fuse is located at the back of the oven and the whole oven has to be removed from the oven cabinet in order to replace it. KitchenAid's response to owners? DON'T USE the self-clean feature!! Many Whirlpool oven owners complain of the same AND of the control board "going out" after only a year or two (usually right after the warranty). The GE 24" double electric oven is starting to look better despite it's "knob" control. | ||
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Post# 657922 , Reply# 31 2/3/2013 at 19:51 (4,099 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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24" Double Electric Ovens Bill the problems that you mention about the gaskets and oven vent construction indicate little attention was payed to these items as a design detail, neither will EVER affect the operation of the oven.
The thermal fuse problem was a big problem for many years, but is now ancient history when talking about the current ovens and WP-KA has never suggested that customers not use the Self-Cleaning feature. WP had several ways to fix the problem of thermal fuse failure during SC cycles, involving extra glass shields in the door newer door seals and a different blower, however often people elected not to fix the problem properly.
Are you sure that GE has a 24" double wall oven, I have never seen one, John. | ||
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Post# 657993 , Reply# 32 2/4/2013 at 08:49 (4,099 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose) |
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GE 24" double electric oven | ||
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Post# 658010 , Reply# 33 2/4/2013 at 10:16 (4,099 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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GE 24" Double electric oven I stand corrected, Thank You, normally I give my top recommendation to GEs cooking products so I think this could be a very good choice. The WP-KAs certainly look better from a styling perspective but if the lack of a 2nd SC oven does not brother you this one could be much more reliable and at least the lower oven will always work, LOL. | ||
| Post# 658011 , Reply# 34 2/4/2013 at 10:18 (4,099 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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I would so buy... | ||
| Post# 658066 , Reply# 35 2/4/2013 at 14:42 (4,099 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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And If I... Had the cash I would buy that Chambers electric RIGHT NOW!!!! | ||
| Post# 658077 , Reply# 36 2/4/2013 at 16:22 (4,099 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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what... our Copper Chambers?
if I don't end up using it (not sure yet) you can have it for what little we paid - $200. They started at $1000 on Chicago CL and chamberstoves.com, we called them after 2 months and it turned out they still had it and they were desperate, the house had to be empty in 7 days for settlement... so what you might call lucky timing. The story of how they happened to have a brand new 1956 oven is for another time - long but interesting! and their yellow & glass St Charles kitchen was to die for!
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Post# 658248 , Reply# 37 2/5/2013 at 16:00 (4,098 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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Hardwick If you're still looking for 24" gas, here's one option. More than just the wall oven, but a matching set. Located in Plymouth, MA
lawrence
CLICK HERE TO GO TO pulltostart's LINK on eBay 
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Post# 659732 , Reply# 38 2/11/2013 at 20:38 (4,091 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose) |
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Control Board Repairs
After seeing the terrible quality of todays ovens and the high prices, I'm thinking it might be better to have the control board repaired on my Roper oven. Can anyone recommend an online company that repairs/rebuilds appliance electronic control boards? I found a few online but would like to hear other's experiences.
Thanks! | ||
| Post# 659741 , Reply# 39 2/11/2013 at 21:33 (4,091 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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Hardwick! Thats a good old Cleveland Tennessee stove! | ||
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Post# 659755 , Reply# 40 2/11/2013 at 21:58 (4,091 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Hardwick! | ||
| Post# 659758 , Reply# 41 2/11/2013 at 22:17 (4,091 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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here is a NICE Hardwick...CHEAP! Coppertone! CLICK HERE TO GO TO norgeway's LINK on Raleigh Craigslist | ||
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