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Anyone remembers the time when powder detergents were sold in cotton bags? |
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Post# 671006   4/7/2013 at 07:27 (4,041 days old) by nrones ()   |   | |
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...anyone? :) |
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Post# 671007 , Reply# 1   4/7/2013 at 07:30 (4,041 days old) by Westie2 ()   |   | |
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I remember detergents only in cardboard boxes. What we had in cloth was flour, salt, and sugar in cloth bags. |
Post# 671012 , Reply# 2   4/7/2013 at 07:58 (4,041 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 671013 , Reply# 3   4/7/2013 at 08:15 (4,041 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 671016 , Reply# 4   4/7/2013 at 08:25 (4,041 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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Nope, never cloth bags, but cardboard boxes, cardboard drums, plastic buckets and plastic bags (refills). |
Post# 671018 , Reply# 5   4/7/2013 at 08:46 (4,041 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Not here in Italy from what I know..... only paper cylinders, boxes and plastic refills, then after the 80s plastic bags became the main container because bags were and are self standing with a large base and detergent coming in them were cheaper....infact here very few people almost nobody still transfer bags content into paper or plastic conrainers... I'm just not 100% sure about the first detergents of Mira Lanza such as Triton and Neptun in the 50s. |
Post# 671021 , Reply# 7   4/7/2013 at 09:14 (4,041 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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...and his adventures. |
Post# 671054 , Reply# 8   4/7/2013 at 11:09 (4,041 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)   |   | |
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there may be the question; remember when we could buy them (?), with liquids now taking over the shelf, when that happens, I'm done :0 |
Post# 671059 , Reply# 10   4/7/2013 at 11:20 (4,041 days old) by nrones ()   |   | |
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This one has scent of lilac :) |
Post# 671067 , Reply# 11   4/7/2013 at 11:54 (4,041 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 671071 , Reply# 12   4/7/2013 at 12:11 (4,041 days old) by nrones ()   |   | |
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yes, exactly, there's even instruction on how to do that :) I'll post a pic of it how it looks as dishtowel when I unseam it |
Post# 671075 , Reply# 13   4/7/2013 at 12:21 (4,041 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 671084 , Reply# 14   4/7/2013 at 12:50 (4,041 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Oh Okay, now that makes a little more sense.....then it become a dishtowel.... I recall the cards of Mira Lanza viewable in the link above and the plasic toys of Tide with Disney characters, these plastic toys are a childhood remember of almost every italian born and raised in 50s, 60s and early 70s...including my father... These Tide gifts are now became really collectibles over here as for some of the gift gadgets in detergents... A typical example of a Tide gift of the 60s a Snowhite doll: There is even a facebook page aboust nostalgic of gadgets in detergents, and I raised up during the era of gadgets inside the Dash....
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Post# 671091 , Reply# 15   4/7/2013 at 12:59 (4,041 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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A Dixan Photo camera, probably of later 80s and early 90s and I would bet I have one like that somewhere in the basement: |
Post# 671120 , Reply# 16   4/7/2013 at 15:01 (4,041 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Coming in cotton bags.
Even soap chips didn't last long as even for large commercial/insitutional use they switched to huge cardboard containers, just as detergents. Considering how powdered detergents should be kept dry, storage in a natural textile sack alone seems not to fit the bill. Especially as at least on this side of the pond many Americans had laundry areas in damp basements. Those cotton sacks would moulder and the contents absorb moisture to the point of becoming rock hard. |
Post# 671319 , Reply# 17   4/8/2013 at 09:57 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671321 , Reply# 18   4/8/2013 at 09:59 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671322 , Reply# 19   4/8/2013 at 10:00 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671323 , Reply# 20   4/8/2013 at 10:01 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671324 , Reply# 21   4/8/2013 at 10:02 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671325 , Reply# 22   4/8/2013 at 10:03 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671326 , Reply# 23   4/8/2013 at 10:04 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671327 , Reply# 24   4/8/2013 at 10:05 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671328 , Reply# 25   4/8/2013 at 10:06 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671329 , Reply# 26   4/8/2013 at 10:08 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671330 , Reply# 27   4/8/2013 at 10:09 (4,040 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 671407 , Reply# 29   4/8/2013 at 15:53 (4,040 days old) by dixan (Europe)   |   | |
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Let's make it clear. Inside the linen bag the detergent is packed in another plastic bag or it isn't? Otherwise how it is protected from moisture? |
Post# 671421 , Reply# 30   4/8/2013 at 16:18 (4,040 days old) by nrones ()   |   | |
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on the new Duel - yes, on the old ones Ingemar posted - I don't think so |
Post# 671432 , Reply# 31   4/8/2013 at 18:41 (4,039 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 671537 , Reply# 32   4/9/2013 at 07:41 (4,039 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 671616 , Reply# 34   4/9/2013 at 14:43 (4,039 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Has been around for a long time, and with all sorts of consumer goods.
My "company" flatware and china - now considered rather nice - were originally giveaways or piece-with-purchase items. The flatware, Oneida's Queen Bess, was a Betty Crocker giveaway. I have a complete service for 8 in the pattern, 126 pieces, including all the rare stuff like orange spoons, demitasse spoons, etc. This is a silverplate pattern, and while the body is a little lightweight, the plating is first-class, including a heavier-plated reinforced area at the heel area of spoons and forks. The china, Royal China's Currier and Ives, was a piece-with-purchase promotion for A & P. You remember - buy ten bucks' worth of groceries, get a dinner plate for 19 cents. They used to give some very nice stuff away as an enticement to buy. |
Post# 671744 , Reply# 35   4/10/2013 at 03:03 (4,038 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Thank you jetcone.
@ dixan: as far as I know the detergent was sold only in the linen bag alone, no plastic bag inside. It is a bit strange but so it was. Inside the bag it was a small slip of paper (cardbord) with the dosing instructions. But they were also on sale cilindric or rectangular cardbord boxes of detergent. But especcialy in a given period of time the linen bags were much more popular. |
Post# 671746 , Reply# 36   4/10/2013 at 03:51 (4,038 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Was very popular with rural/farm housewives, especially if the family didn't have much. Those sacks would be taken apart and the cloth used to run up everything from undergarments to clothing. Those who remember such things often say they would kill to find such fabric today. Sadly when the mills what produced such textiles shut down, the equipment was either sold off overseas or simply left to rot inside the shuttered buildings.
Many vintage laundry/housekeeping manuals in my stash give directions for "bleaching" sack fabric to remove the lettering/printing thus make the cloth better suited for clothing. |
Post# 671756 , Reply# 37   4/10/2013 at 06:36 (4,038 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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Wouldn't "Bleaching" to get rid of the printing or patterns weaken the fabric so it couldn't be used for clothes and such?I guess other packaging matrials replaced the sackcloth-the bag cloth would be more expensive than paper,plastic bags and such. |
Post# 671757 , Reply# 38   4/10/2013 at 06:39 (4,038 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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But IIRC chlorine bleach/Javelle water wasn't one of the methods, though could be wrong.
There isn't anything wrong per se with chlorine bleaching of cotton materials, after all that his how "unbleached" cottons goods get to white (usually). It is just the repeated exposure and failure to rinse properly and neutralise any remaining traces of chlorine bleach that causes the problems. |
Post# 671793 , Reply# 39   4/10/2013 at 11:27 (4,038 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I think bleaching them one time didn't much to the cloth, bleach ruins and weaken clothes...that's for sure a fact. You've to note that some dark colors like black or blue once bleached turns out a very light pink....it was surely meant to clear the light color prints....also true that sack printing dyes were probably not the same used on clothing... This post was last edited 04/10/2013 at 11:44 |
Post# 671846 , Reply# 40   4/10/2013 at 16:34 (4,038 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Mom's family boiled the sacks in the wash boiler to remove the inks or whatever, but some people kept the flowered patterns. Boiling is very effective for bleaching cottons, hence the "boilwash" temps in some washers in countries that did not use chlorine bleach. |
Post# 671852 , Reply# 41   4/10/2013 at 18:01 (4,037 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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It is not "weird" nor a theory, but fact. You can head over to any USA sewing website group and hear persons speak of their mothers (if not themselves) using sack fabric for clothing.
To be clear we are *NOT* speaking of those small sacks of detergent shown in above posts. But 25lb-50lb or greater sacks which are really quite large once the stitching is removed and the material laid flat. What *you* have to understand is that at one time some people living in rural and or farming areas were poor, some even dirt poor. When you are living pretty much hand to mouth with several children to clothe you take fabric where you can get it. There was also the aspect of not allowing anything to go to waste, which is common to farming life then and still today. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK |
Post# 671853 , Reply# 42   4/10/2013 at 18:02 (4,037 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 671859 , Reply# 43   4/10/2013 at 18:55 (4,037 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Look that I meant "theory" of bleaching in response about saying that bleaching ruined/got weak the clothing, about being weird, was meant as unusual, and well it would be ... if you see it with the eyes of a modern person it would be weird or hard to figure out... you don't always meet someone who dress up of sacks ( sounds bad I know told this way)... I don't attend tailors as you probably do so just do not know how popular is in this ambient among them right now, what I know no-one I met ever told me " Look I made it with a flour sack" that's what I mean...at someone's eyes that would be weird, well not weird, unusual, that's it! As stated, it was fully comprehensible and common in the past and I think not only in farming compounds, as said I think it was a common practice even during the years of depression to re-use such cloth for personal or child clothings.....
I just tell you my 86 Y.o granma raised in a farm in Veneto Polesine (Poor farmer area), she still keeps everything, even the paper bags for the bread for a future alternative use, despite everyone complaints about her habits I like to supoort her as I know why she does it, she raised in a family of 10 sister and brothers, a very poor farming family...and I enjoy her tells so I know everything about life was in a poor farm. I always been told that I inherited this conservational farming spirit from her, which is also usual for elderly people generally, not only ones raised in farming areas, and I'm proud of it....It's just sad people nowaday's are just the opposite...that's why I like the idea of re-using sacks for clothing! Probably you misunderstand me, or probably I could not express at best what I meant to say...
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Post# 671861 , Reply# 44   4/10/2013 at 19:11 (4,037 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Tom, so it was also by boiling, so it should not have even been a strong ink, I thought infact it should have been different than clothing dying.. This post was last edited 04/10/2013 at 19:28 |
Post# 671863 , Reply# 45   4/10/2013 at 19:23 (4,037 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 671868 , Reply# 46   4/10/2013 at 19:32 (4,037 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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If they were bigger, I'd just love a T-shirt made with this flour sack keeping print on the front! I totally love it! And reminds me of Mom and Granma. |
Post# 690407 , Reply# 50   7/19/2013 at 08:43 (3,938 days old) by damirko ()   |   | |
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Celebrating 45th anniversary this year 2013 of FAKS HELIZIM Saponia Osijek made cotton bags Jubilee packs with this detergent |