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Thread Number: 46772
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Post# 681305 , Reply# 1 5/28/2013 at 04:15 (3,985 days old) by vacbear58  (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Challange
Hi TriumphToldeo, and welcome to AutomaticWasher.
It seems you have two issues here ..... In terms of capacity the Hotpoint was rated at a 10lb cotton washing load, your old Bosch washer would have been around 9lbs which was the standard for machines around this time, so it is doubtful whether or not the Hotpoint could wash significantly more than the Bosch in any case. From what you write you seem satisfied with the performance of the old Bosch and, presuming you carried out the repairs yourself, I would personally say "better the devil you know ...." rather than risk an unknown quantity. You will also lose about 60cm sq of worktop space too, which may or may not be a consideration. I can certainly see the attraction of the top loading Hotpoint (as I imagine most here would) but I doubt you will see much difference in performance. The other issue is on the larger items. Without knowing the model in detail I would have thought your newer Bosch would have been rated at around 5kg which would be rather more than the old Bosch or Hotpoint. I cannot understand why there would be a problem with either blankets or curtains as I have been using front loading machines since 1975 and have washed both blankets and curtains since that time with no problem. Perhaps if your curtains are very large and/or have thermal interlinings there might be an issue, but in that case dry cleaning would be more appropriate in any case. Of course you will require gentle programmes with each, and perhaps you might choose to give them an extra rinse but otherwise there should not be a problem, indeed I would have thought that the action of a front loader would have been better than the Hotpoint in terms of reducing shrinkage of both and "felting" of blankets. Still awake? LOLOL Unless you have an academic interest in the Hotpoint, my advice would be to stick with what you have - don't fix what ain't broke. If you feel capacity is still an issue, as and when the newer Bosch gives up the ghost, there are lots of higher capacity new machines (which will use even less water) on the market now (almost double that of the old Bosch or Hotpoint) which you could consider as a replacement. The name Triumph Toldeo indicates other interests - I think I read a couple of weeks back that that model is almost extinct now, many folks will never even have heard of it or even the Triumph name. I, of course, am old enough to remember both! I spotted a Mk1 Triumph 2000 last weekend on my way back from my sister's house (she lives near Wrexham) - it seemed to be running well :) Al | ||
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Post# 681306 , Reply# 2 5/28/2013 at 04:15 (3,985 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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| Post# 695197 , Reply# 5 8/8/2013 at 16:48 (3,913 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
Hi Rob
Having just got a 15792 I'm biased and would say the top loader but it sounds like it needed major surgery and although not impossible to bring back to life, I guess with a 14 month daughter though that might be pushing things trying to get it sorted out! Keep your eyes peeled and you might get lucky although if its a 1504 I'll fight you for it lol. Any thoughts on what you might replace the Bosch with yet? I too remember the Triumph Toledo and also has use of a Triumph Dolomite. It had a carpet like a poodle's fur so I used to make a barking noise when I changed gear as the gear stick looked like its leg! Simple things for simple minds......... S :) | ||
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Post# 695208 , Reply# 6 8/8/2013 at 18:08 (3,913 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Blankets And "Older" Front Loaders
Cannot speak for all but my Miele W1070 (circa 1990's) does not do blankets and or other bulky items well.
Often the things end up in a tangle and when it comes time to spin things get interesting. Because this machine does not have a very sophisticated OOBC like modern machines it *will* start spinning even if the tub is very out of line. This usually results in the tub banging about until one runs and shuts off the unit. Have learned to stay close when doing blankets, but really have almost given up and take the things to the Laundromat. Last time one had to take the blanket and fewer smaller items (hand towels) thrown in for load balance out and put them through the mangle. This was the first pulse spin after third rinse and the things were a heavy sopping wet tangled ball. After mangling things were returned to the Miele for rinsing but still had to keep one's eye on the unit. Am looking forward to see if the newer AEG does any better. | ||
| Post# 695286 , Reply# 8 8/9/2013 at 05:14 (3,912 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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| Post# 695287 , Reply# 9 8/9/2013 at 05:15 (3,912 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Nope, can't get the pics to embed from the Photobucket links. DAMN THIS FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can anyone instruct me how to do it? | ||
| Post# 695314 , Reply# 11 8/9/2013 at 09:21 (3,912 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Front #1 pic Trying again.... 
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| Post# 695315 , Reply# 12 8/9/2013 at 09:22 (3,912 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Front #2 Next... 
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| Post# 695316 , Reply# 13 8/9/2013 at 09:23 (3,912 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Drum Drum 
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| Post# 695317 , Reply# 14 8/9/2013 at 09:24 (3,912 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Buttons Anyone know how the 'e' (economy) function works? 
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| Post# 695318 , Reply# 15 8/9/2013 at 09:25 (3,912 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Dials Drying, wash temp and wash programme dials... 
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| Post# 695319 , Reply# 16 8/9/2013 at 09:27 (3,912 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Inside outer door The wash programme explanation, located within the outer door, which is missing its top hinge. Does anyone have one or know where I could get hold of one. It doesn't look easy to fabricate... 
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| Post# 699481 , Reply# 17 8/28/2013 at 11:35 (3,893 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Big E So, after getting zero response, can anyone advise on what the green "e" button does? Still looking for a top-loading timeline Hotpoint, also... R | ||
| Post# 699484 , Reply# 18 8/28/2013 at 11:53 (3,893 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys) | ||
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| Post# 699501 , Reply# 20 8/28/2013 at 12:57 (3,893 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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'e' button Thanks for your replies. I am not sure the e button reduces the temp from 95 to 60, because you select that temperature using the dial. I have tried it pressed in and it makes no difference to the hot and cold fills either. Anybody else have any ideas? Does it extend the wash time, for example? Thanks again! | ||
| Post# 699510 , Reply# 21 8/28/2013 at 13:51 (3,893 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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I'm with Lee on this. I reckon the button will prevent the machine from heating over 60 deg C if you tried to put the temperature dial higher as it is only against the 2 Eco programmes on the guide on the door. If anything I would suspect that the wash time wil be less on this programme if you set the temp dial to 95 as it would take less time to reach 60 than 95 but I guess the only way to be sure would be to time both programmes.
Steve :) | ||
| Post# 724689 , Reply# 22 1/3/2014 at 08:04 (3,765 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK) | ||
Bosch V696
When I was at college, there were four "units" three for boys, one for girls.
I remember, when I was doing a few cooking sessions, the girls floor, where I did those sessions, had a Bosch V696 styled machine, only it was branded Neff. It had the same fascia, options, knobs, door drum, colour, prog table location & cabinet styling. The only difference, I think it had an inner door release button on the fascia, instead of the handle on the 09/21 position of the door panel itself. I found out, from the "head" staff member of the girls floor, Jen, that they'd quit using it, & relied on the washer extractors in the basement, because you could literally see the glow of the heating element(s) through the inner drum hole perforations, which unnerved them to use it. When all the units in the school/college, were upgraded/revamped, for the 03rd time (appliance wise), the Neff was replaced, by a Diplomat/Servis 1200 AutoWasher (see link for example). When it was replaced, Jen gave me the knob selection rings & the programme table, at the time, but I've no idea where they are now though. I messed around with the Neff once or twice, when I was up there, but never saw it was working, as on reflection, I think the bearings'd gone too, as when I turned the drum by hand, slowly, it was very stiff & rumbled menacingly, whereas on the one occasion I did spin it fast, it sounded like a train bombing through a station, or a flying chocolate bar (AeroPlain)taking off from an airport. I'd asked if they'd let me have it, but, as you'd expect, they said no. At the time of my discovery, of it, Jen told me it was about 19 years old, I was told this in 2005, it was a 1986 model. I can definitely confirm the programme knob & drying time knob are identical to what I remember (referencing Reply #15, a so is the drum/cabinet style (referencing replies #11 & 13). I remember it was quite camouflaged into matching the kitchen cabinets, it sat on a plinth wedged into the back wall of the kitchen, sat beside a Zanussi vented Dryer, after the 02nd appliance revamp. When I first set foot in the kitchen, I actually & honestly thought the Neff was a dishwasher, as that was the first ever semi-integrated, décor door AutoWasher/Washer Dryer I'd ever seen. Plus I knew Neff, were quite a leading dishwasher manufacturer, from my online researching at the time of discovering the Neff Washer Dryer. I'm going to take a guess that it's a 05KG/2.5KG 1000RPM model, both the Bosch & Neff versions, & possibly the foreign ones from Constructa/Seiemens, & the V696, all having the same specs on the continent too, but feel free to correct me, if I'm wrong. CJ CLICK HERE TO GO TO HooverZanMiele's LINK on eBay | ||
| Post# 724738 , Reply# 25 1/3/2014 at 13:04 (3,765 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
E is for Economy
back in the good old days we didn't have Eco this that and the other, but on washing machines then it generally meant Economy wash, this being a reduced temperature, my hoover drops from a 90 to 65 degree if this is selected, the powders of the day claimed to give the same results at a lower temperature.
That's my two pence worth Gary | ||
| Post# 728698 , Reply# 27 1/19/2014 at 08:27 (3,749 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK) | ||
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V696 Rob, | ||
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