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Post# 701916   9/8/2013 at 03:43 (3,883 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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I'm getting a used dual drawer set in white from a local store and was wondering if it is possible to change the color panel kit?

 

 

I couldn't find a model number anywhere, but really didn't know where to look... I guess if I can't find a way to change the color to black I better not get the set lol..

 

Out of curiosity, these machines don't have upper arms above the drawers do they?

 

The point of this purchase is for a gift to my mother. She's always wanted a set.





Post# 701917 , Reply# 1   9/8/2013 at 05:22 (3,883 days old) by washer111 ()        

I can't help you with colour panels all that much, but I believe the built-in models can get panels changed, and maybe the regular ones too, though I can't remember (Member Dadoes will likely have the answer).

In regards to a "Constant-Rinse" wash-arm in the top, none of the versions made by Fisher and Paykel have them, though either the KitchenAid, Whirlpool or Maytag models *Might.* Unless you are cramming the machine to the gills like I try to, you don't really need it, as water gets around and takes care of most the crap on any cups.
Just let her know if she has tall, thin glasses not to put them in the front left or back left corners where cups belong, as the spray here can be blocked by small plates in the rack immediately to the right (there are two rows), and lead to redeposition of food soils. If you load lightly, this is avoided, but I find proper loading usually takes care of the issue. I even made the spray-holes on the wash-arm larger with a knife to help with this issue and squirt the cutlery basket a tad more (Not recommended!)

And if you are wondering about filtration because of my comments, there is a 3-tier system that works:
~ The main filter plate is moderately coarse and stops chunky foods circulating. Newer models have a Filter-Cleaning jet on the wash-arm that helps prevent build-up up garbage (Though If/When it DOES accumulate, it is around the Kidney "Drain Filter")
~ The Drain Filter (Kidney Shaped) is two-tier. There is a "sump" section for the drain pump, where very coarse grid stops chunky foods that are washed into the filter being drained. The rest of the filter is mesh, which captures the fine particulates. This the "deepest" area of the sump. The rear of the machine is shallowest.
My drain filter split in half after 1 year, due to excessive cleaning. The filter still works, and the filter cleaning jet keeps the filter clear in most usage instances. Water flowing back through the filter from the little valleys underneath the Filter-Plate help to flush accumulated "gack" out, and the filter jet push stuff underneath the filter away from the water flow. As my machine has different temperatures for most cycles, I find that running a Heavy cycle regularly (Dishes or not) ensures the filters stay 100% clean. As the U.S. models feature more water changes and wash at much higher temperatures on the "Normal" cycle, I imagine the filters are essentially self-cleaning thanks to the higher temperature.

Aside from my quibbles with the drain filter, I have nothing to complain about regarding my machine. One of the drawers has racks that have knobs of rust on them in one or two places, though you'll find that with almost any machine today. Everything else on the machine is as sound as day-1, machine still looks new inside and almost everything (Excluding super-baked on crap) will come clean on Normal or Heavy cycles. This machine moves far more water than you might expect from an "EnergyStar" machine, as the video in the thread below illustrates. In that thread, I also go into details about my cycle choices, which you/your mother may find useful in your daily usage (Noting that Australian cycling and American cycling on these machines can vary significantly between Models and Series of each model)
www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T...

Please accept my apologies for going off topic here. I do get carried away on this subject, but I figured this would all be practical information for you. The Use and Care booklet tells you NONE of this, and all my "ideas" seem sound so far



Post# 701935 , Reply# 2   9/8/2013 at 08:00 (3,882 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Prefinished units aren't factory-supplied with changeable panels ... but the panel can of course be changed if the part item is available.  There are several styles of prefinished panels and drawer handles depending on which model unit is involved.  A white panel could perhaps be painted black.

The model number is on a sticker on back of the cabinet, and should also be on the cabinet facia panel at the lower left of the upper drawer, visible when it's open.


Post# 701943 , Reply# 3   9/8/2013 at 08:56 (3,882 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Does the door panel thats fitted

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have a small screen/badge or just a set of 3 buttons?

If its the 3 buttons you remove the front panel by taking out 2 plastic pins drop the door out and unscrew the metal from the coloured front and replace with a door of your choice.

I have worked on both designs now and have discovered that here at least they are identical apart from the badge or buttons but the fronts are interchangeable.

Austin


Post# 701990 , Reply# 4   9/8/2013 at 11:59 (3,882 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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This model doesn't have integrated panels, just the factory white with the screen and three buttons. Its an older model that has the bar of LEDs with the fast forward and leaf buttons on the lip of each drawer.

I appreciate the replies. Any ideas where I can find the model number so I can see if a black kit is available? He's gonna let me set the unit up and run a few loads to see if there are leaks etc.

In all honesty is 400 a fair price to pay for an older set?


Post# 702002 , Reply# 5   9/8/2013 at 12:32 (3,882 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Changing Color ON F&P Dishdrawers

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I would paint the panels black, either do it yourself or take them to an auto shop, or at least get it installed and see if it even works and whether your Mom likes it before investing in New Black panels.

 

The bigger problem is the price of the DW, I would not pay anything close to that price UNLESS it comes with at least a Full 1 Year in home warranty that is backed by a reputable local service operation.

 

These DWs are know for having many problems and service here in the US has been usually less than great. These DWs are also very flimsy and are easily damaged when being removed and transferred to a new location and being reinstalled unless it is done very carefully.



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