Thread Number: 49887
Wierd gas range...???? RCA Whirlpool question??? |
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Post# 720587 , Reply# 3   12/11/2013 at 13:47 (3,788 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 720600 , Reply# 4   12/11/2013 at 14:15 (3,788 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Jeff, according to my old catalogues its a 53, that cooktop is a regular cooktop, but that oven says Blanket Of Flame ??? who knew!? Of course it would be a zillion miles away!! |
Post# 720668 , Reply# 6   12/11/2013 at 18:05 (3,788 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Not if you set it at 425 and leave it!!! Which is what looks like was done. |
Post# 720752 , Reply# 9   12/12/2013 at 06:29 (3,787 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 720764 , Reply# 10   12/12/2013 at 07:06 (3,787 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Used what they called a Micro Pilot, as did Brown years ago,,Believe it or not, I have never seen a Whirlpool stove from the 60s. |
Post# 721098 , Reply# 13   12/13/2013 at 22:03 (3,786 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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That's interesting info Tom, I wasn't aware that Whirlpool bought the Kelvinator factory. I haven't seen a lot of RCA Whirlpool ranges from the 1960s here but they were also available and apparently made here too.
Here are two picture of a RCA Whirlpool range next to a 1961 (according to the ad) Leonard (made by Kelvinator) on the right. Their cabinets do look similar. Did the US models looked similar to these? |
Post# 721113 , Reply# 14   12/14/2013 at 06:16 (3,785 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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This detective work is kind of fun! I don't think, though that you can generalize the Canadian situation to the US. I'd bet that these two stoves were from the same parentage, but would bet that they were Canadian sourced. If you take yourself back to those days, Whirlpool/Seeger had the Sears contracts for refrigeration and laundry, was licensing the "RCA" name for "RCA Whirlpool", had an aging Estate stove plant (Hamilton, OH), had just introduced the best dishwasher in the market, and needed to get a better position in cooking. I don't think Estate had done any built-in business. They probably threw some $$$ (clearly subsidized/promoted by the American Gas Association) into R&D for a new line of gas ranges (with the side controls) and used the same dies for the electric line. It didn't get them much benefit from the wholesale side (Sears was still tied to Roper; Montgomery Ward to Westinghouse/Tappan, and JC Penney to GE) but did let them play in the built-in market.
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Post# 721122 , Reply# 15   12/14/2013 at 08:41 (3,785 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The freestanding lines ended about 1970 for WPs own gas and electric ranges, they continued to build their own built in 24" and 30" electric ovens and built in cook-tops.
After WP stopped making free standing G&E ranges they started sourcing 30" & 40" electric ranges from Kelvinator [ WP never owned Kelvinator ] this stopped for 30' ranges around 1976 when WP started building 30" freestanding ranges in their Findly Ohio factory. Throughout the 1950s into the 1980s electric ranges were gaining on gas range sales and WP like several other large appliance manufactures chose to ignore making and selling gas ranges. For a while it looked like science, technology and common scene would prevail and gas ranges would slowly fad away. But by the mid 80s during the Regan years science, technology and common sense were quickly going away and gas range sales in higher end kitchens were making a comeback. There were many other reasons for the reassurance of gas cooking, a major one being the growing income disparity that was occurring and still going strong today in this country. This income disparity allows rich people to buy silly, impractical, poor performing professional ranges which make about much sense to a home cook as monster SUVs do for someone who likes to drive, LOL. This is possible because they have the full time cleaning help in their homes to spend hours cleaning them after they cook a simple meal once in while, LOL. With the advent of induction cooking technology better Smooth-Top ranges and an aging population electricity is cooking more than 70% of home meals and I feel that the trend will continue to move toward more electric ranges for home use. John L. |
Post# 721134 , Reply# 16   12/14/2013 at 10:37 (3,785 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 721137 , Reply# 17   12/14/2013 at 10:45 (3,785 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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I personally don't "get" the rage for gas ranges. Most of them do not bake as evenly as electrics, and they are pretty much murder to clean really clean.
The best gas range I ever had was a Whirlpool self-cleaner produced in the late Eighties. It was a 30-inch range, free-standing, with an analog dial clock/timer. It was not too bad, and its sealed cooktop burners eased cleaning quite a bit. But cleaning it still took more work and attention than an electric model with similar features, and its oven was not the most even baker. It made the most alarming noises when you preheated the oven - first a WHOOSH! as the oven burner ignited, then all kinds of groaning and popping. It also did not self-clean as well as an electric, and there was always, always that funky smell of gas-combustion byproducts to live with. Give me electric any day. P.S.: I should mention that I've cooked on every sort of heat source in my time. I taught cooking in the Eighties, and used residential gas, professional gas, smooth-top, induction, cast-iron hobs, halogen and portable gas. I have always come back to open-coil electric burners, very gratefully, as the best performers for home use, as well as the easiest units to clean. Anything with a smooth top (including halogen and induction) takes a pretty fair amount of effort to keep as sparkling as the advertising brochure shots. This post was last edited 12/14/2013 at 11:01 |